Posts posted by Yusef
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Self centering debater and endless processing..
QuoteHave you put yourself on the center and think anything you can't know, therefore no one can know too!???
That's exactly what [1]I'm telling you. [2]NO ONE CAN KNOW. Therefore, trying to guess or make it fit your "algorithm" or your "crossword" [3]is NOT science. I don't know why you think it would be. You're guessing about things nobody can know and claiming you're right.
1. Therefore anyone anything says, i will tell him that let I ask 'Phil for All' if he verified that it be true LoL!!
2. Source??
- Experience: Do you ask one by one of the people of the world???
- Study: Have you ever read all of the books of the world and haven't found within them anything about that????
3. What the science is?
QuoteQuoteShi'a-Hadith
There isn't anyone but eberything there is between God and them is the fool
Many sources say there are other creatures than we humans
Also the new scientists send signals around the space to the Aliens that if they get them,reply!
Well,
How do you know they should be look like us!??
Maybe they are like to animals or plants!!
How do you if they have any type, they use Oxygen to be alive!???
Maybe they use CO2 or Argon or any other thing to be alive!!
Or even nothing like any gas!!
How do you know they use the same technology we are using!???
Maybe they use other technologies than Radio Frequency!
QuoteShi'a-Hadith
There are several types of the creatures that live on the same Earth we live and they are more advanced than us.
A type of them all are Male and there isn't any female among them and if they will, they can split a mount by one tap. They live in the easternmost and westernmost places of the earth.
A type of them their eyes are on their chest and live in Zanj[Africa] and they sleep at night and mornings that wake up, their foods will be appeared side of themselves.
A type of them are like to typhoons and live between earth and sky.
A type of them live on 39 other moons than our moon.
Well,
We quoted that description of the fool is 'self-centering'
And thinks all of other intelligent creatures should be like himself!!
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On 1/1/2021 at 6:39 AM, Salik Imran said:
Salam, I am a Muslim.
Salam,
This is a scientific forum and we say anything based on the science and if we will say a thing that haven't had any reason for that, therefore we QUOTE from the scientists and we just analyze their sayings.
On 1/1/2021 at 7:48 PM, joigus said:Do I sense a time paradox?
I said my English is very week and I wrote 'paladox' in the dictionary and it wrote the same 'paradolf' 😹
At all connection between God and 'Bada'' is such as a Laptop that a company for example Dell makes, and lets us any thing install in that we will!
And it depends on ourselves that what thing we install and what duty we run in that..
But the maker is able and has complete power to change anything you have entered in that..
1. You see your child and say him/her preaching that IF he continue his behavior, then his life will be X manner!
Then he listens to your preaching and changes himself
Then the thing you predicted for his future, won't be done!
2. A predictor foretell a thing for you!
Then you change yourself and or pray to God to cancel the prediction!
3. Shi'a-Hadith
God punished Jews for 400 years be under tyrannies of Egyptians then they cried and prayed a lot..
Then God Forgave their 130years and after 270years prophet Moses[pbuh] came.
It's not against the Knowledge of God!
And God Himself Knew that they will pray purely after the 270year of their slavery
It's Bada' that others specially Sunni-muslims condemn us because their imams hadn't had any knowledge about that
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Edited by Phi for All
Stop advertising your other threads!QuoteShi'a-Hadith
God Gave prophet Yusef[pbuh] several attributes that one of them was that everything he was said, the same thing would be happened!
One came to him and was decided to kidding him
- O' Yuzarsif, I dreamed last night x-y-z.... a thing that it's interpretation should be his death
- It shows you will be died soon
- LoL 😹
Then tomorrow he died!!
He wasn't had that dream but wanted to kidding the prophet means wanted to Yusef's interpretation be untrue but God Made his saying true![FORCE]
Bada' is such as when you see a girl in a street and tell her:
- I am seeing you after 10years are sleeping in a corner of a W.C and dogs and cats are pissing on you!😠
- Why do i drug /drinking wine/ being slut/x/y.... that he told me such these things😢
And the girl changes herself and upgrades then after 10years you will see her has been a doctor! engineer! teacher!
Or counter.
Well,
What the better if we use a series political methods that make all the evil events cancelled!
3th world wars,
Armageddon wars,
Etc...
Or at least make them the weakest!
But if our ideas be satanic, then God DeceiveS us and Programs how the events will be against ourselves!
QuoteShi'a-Hadith
Some years before the AkhiruzZaman[end time] God MakeS:
1. Sun Eclipse and Moon Eclipse will be reversed!
2. Sun will be paused center of the sky for several hours!
2. The Sun rises from the west![the earth rotates counter]
Therefore all of calculatings of predictions of astrologers will be error!
I wrote all of this post for say this!
And that opens our minds to the theory i brought link to other topic removed by moderator
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On 12/30/2020 at 12:58 AM, Phi for All said:
I don't understand how ANYTHING you write relates to anything else you write.
Exactly the same a crossword puzzle has!
Relates to any other concepts
QuoteI think you must realize by now that we can't know anything about the universe before the BB.
Have you put yourself on the center and think anything you can't know, therefore no one can know too!???
It's like to an poetry that says: "...secrets of the beginning neither you know nor me!!"
اصرار عزل را نه تو دانی و نه من!
Well, How does he know that "nor others!??"
It's like to one of presidents of Iran was said: The U.S. never gone to the moon!
Well, how does he compare himself and his country with a greatest country about technology!!!
How you know if one or a group have ever gone or know about where we haven't!!?
QuoteYou keep blending your religion into the science you want to discuss. You mention ideas you had when you were young that have nothing to do with the subject of the thread.
I don't know what you mean when you talk about crosswords and ancient scientists. It might be a language barrier, or it may be that you are misunderstanding something you've read, but I can't discuss this with you if I don't know what you're talking about. Sorry, Yusef.
It's like to when I say a politician that why does he compare or blending the history to the politics!!
I exampled an Algorithm that works like to a crossword puzzle that for solving a crossword puzzle you say with loud voice one of the questions and hear to everybody around yourselves and test their speeches within the crossword....
For faster solving we HAVE TO hear all sayings from everywhere/everybody!
Algorithm:
> Is the Sciences completed!?
IF YES: we close all of discussions/debates
IF NO: we need to complete that >
> How can complete that?
> By Debates/Discussing
> Which debaters we should discuss with !?
> Those who Or have the more Experiences
Or have the more Knowledge! About Only the same Science!
Not like to Steven Hawking that his skil is Physic but says about Religion without any source.
> Well, Have we know anybody has had any Experience about the beginnings of creating of the cosmos?
- We nope, but several ancient men claimed that
> Where is their evidence?
- Ask themselves.
> They are died
- Look at the books they have said
> We assume nobody has claimed about the Experience!
And we wanna look at the Knowledge!
- Wokay!
Have you ever tested each one of the sayings into the Crossword and check which one is the truer!?
> Nope
- From now test...
> Ohokay! Thanks that made our blinded minds opened😁
Well,
Each part of this algorithm has wrong, tell us!
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Well,
Look at the YouTube clip: New Theory of SpaceTime and 4th Dimension that exactly says what i meant
But according to the ancient scientists, billions of this horn/clarion of the BigBang are existed in the Thora;
And billions of Thoras are within the first Heaven;
And billions of heavens there are within the second Heaven...
Up to the same previous post i quoted..
Then 12000 universes are within the cosmos..
Don't think these concepts are the same concept i claimed in my profile that have discovered!!
I'm waiting for a scientific researcher/explorer/discovery team that engage me to themselves and for a gift i tell them that theory i've solved[NOT i discovered!]
Exactly following the same crossword puzzle i exampled in the previous posts that by this KEYWORD i solved, we can connect two the greatconcepts of the science!
Who knows what organization requests such ideas!?
And i am a lazy/idlest person who if i decide a thing, it will be many years to think about that again lolll 😂
But if one pull[guide] me, i will growing very very fast
For example i was 14yo then i was seen my mother and my aunt were calling together by telephone for many minutes and their conversations was all nonsense and unuseful lol..I then i thought and told myself that what will be the better if all of these conversations was text and moved at the moment! Exactly the SMS i meant. I had awareness about the Clock pulse and Data pulse that are parallel together..
And after some years the SMS came.
Aha I forgot say that my idea for that was been appeared since i was using Dial-up internet and the Line of telephone was busy always..
Well,
By this gif i wanted to show [in continue of solved tables of the crossword by the scientists] i wanted to show that anything if be smaller about it's details, it is the heavier as they solved for us that the Neutron Stars are the heavier and i solved that the Arsh that is absolute Light, it is the Heaviest object of the Cosmos because they claimed that the smallest seed is inside of the Light! Also they said that it is TSamad means filled without any empty space within that that the new scientists solved for us that all of the obkects around us are 99% empty
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Ahaaaawww owkaaayy!!
We put these concepts side by side of together in the Crossword:
- Size of the Cosmos[from ancient scientists],
- Expanding the cosmos[from new scientists],
- Bada'[from ancient scientists],
- The First Thing[from ancient scientists],
- Curving the Time[from both],
- Blowing in the Horn to destroy the cosmos[from ancient scientists]
- Relativity[from new scientists],
- Space-Time[from new scientists].
- Predictions/foretell/astrology[from both]
- Image of the image designer/graphist lf this image
And discovered new tables of the Crossword to solving!😏
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1 hour ago, MigL said:
Neither is compatible with science.
Which is what we discuss here !Beliefs are discussed on Religious sites.
( and I don't go there and post about Evolution; hint, hint ! )I see you are smoking all times in the scientific site!!
Doesn't your cigarette be end!??
I had mistaken here..
Except God, the same people can make Bada' for the events have been predicted!
Others condemn us and say like the same narration:
One came to Imam Sadiq[S.A.A] and said:
- With Bada' you say that an event shall be happening, then it won't be done and God is not aware for that!!!!
- O' folks,[fools], isn't that that you say 'God Willing[If God Will]!???
- Yes
- But we don't say 'If God Know'!
You should look at the scientific thread to realize what here were said 1400years ago!
'God Willing' is not against 'God Knowing'!
Exactly the science explains that God Is Upon the Timeline and SeeS bit by bit of from the beginning to the last!
May God Bless the great scientist Albert Einstein that opened our minds to find the facts more and more...
Opened our minds to realize what the ancient scientists were said..
Also the concept Barzakh[Purgatory] that has been detected scientifically!
That showed the same 'Curving the Time'
Well,
An other example:
QuoteShi'a-Hadith
Mobeds[spirituals of Zoroastrianism] of Eafahan, Shiraz, Hamedan, Marv, Samarqand,... made a consultation and told each other that we saw through stars that a prophet came to the Arab with name 'Muhammad' then after him one came with name 'Abubakr' then the second after him will be 'Umar' that in his ruling they add lands of Iran to their caliphate!
Therefore we kill all Muslims of Iran, then attack to their land..
Then the spy reports their decision to Umar, then Umar said: May there was a fire mountain between we and Persians that neither they attack to us nor we to them..
Then he asked each one oftheme to consulting
Then Hadhrat Ali[S.A.A] said: "we create three armies in Basra,
- One be defenders of Ahl-ul-Kitab[Jews/Christians]
- One be defenders of women and kids
- One be ready IF they attack!
Then they attacked and were been lost versus them!
Well,
<ALGORITHM>
IF They didn't attack, they wouldn't attack them too!
Well,
- God Lets all be Free.
- One is able to change one other's future [But God Knows!]
- One wants to make one's life lost, but God KnowS that and SeeS on the Timeline that it will be useful for him and Laughs[Therefore LetS him to act] - such as prophet Yusef[pbuh] that his brothers threw him to the well and by this act they made him King of Egypt..
Although God LetS people free! But He Can Force bit by bit on the Timeline..
QuoteShi'a-Hadith
God Said prophet Moses[pbuh] I will punish your nation by famine at X time..
Then the Jews made their houses connected together..
Then the time was been arrived and there wasn't been any famine!
Prophet Moses[pbuh] asked God,
God Said: I Cancelled and forgave them bcz of their behaviour
And God Is on whole the Timeline and Himself Knew that they will connect their houses together!
At all this thread and the thread of the link are both complete makers of each other! And only mixing these both makes the Crossword solved!
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Ahaaa!!
Now my mind opened to new thing...
Each slice of this horn of BigBang is existed forever, and we can travel to the past or the future
Aha owkay!!
It should be the 4th dimension!!
And it image should be more completed!
It shows from beginning to NOW!
take a while it should show from the beginning to the LAST!
and the Viewer Is upon whole the Timeline for the same reason!!
It has necessary to the above link to complete the tables😏
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@ahmet, @Phi for All, @MigL, @joigus, @J.C.MacSwell,
Thanks brothers/uncles
But anytime that human changes/upgrades himself, it will be his birthday.
Well,
Firstly i complete the previous post that has a link to the size of cosmos;
Firstly we haven't been existed at the time of creation of the cosmos,
<ALGORITHM>
Therefore we aren't allowed deny/reject the theory of BigBang while we don't have:
Or Experience that we were witnesses that,
Or Study that we have read any knowledge against that,
<NEXT LEVEL>
And IF we found one of the above,
We should research and being sure that there is not any Experience/Knowledge better/truer than that!
It's an example that i mentioned in my own profile that i got several knowledge from today's scientists and have gotten several similar knowledge from the ancient scientists and put them side by side of each other and there need be only a concept that connect these together and solve several unsolved tables at once!!!
Don't think these are the same i mean.
Well,
This is the theory of BigBang from some of today's scientists
And the cosmos of them compared with the cosmos of the ancient scientists is:
Imagine a finger ring is only 5cm²
And an infinity endless desert, we assume Sahara, is we assume 10,000,000Km²
Well,
This earth with the earth that is under that[maybe galaxy] is the same comparison means the ring to the desert!
The second earth to the third
The third earth to the 4th,....up to 7th earth,
Rooster[maybe nebula],
Rock,
Fish,
Sea,
Quiet Air,
Thora,
First heaven,
2nd heaven,......up to 7th heaven,
Sea,
Hail Mountains,
Air,
Screens of Light,
Kursi,
Arsh.
And there are 26 objects that each one of them is greater then other with the same comparison!!!!😮😮😮
It shows discovery of today's scientists versus the ancient scientists about the cosmos doesn't seem has arrived at even the 4th Earth!!! Lol
At all even if we assume there were billions BigBangs in the cosmos that have created only the Thora,
At all there isn't any difference between theories of these scientists with those scientists that how the galaxies have been existed
And we look at the same today's scientists and respect them for that until we find anything against that then follow the above Algorithm.
At all the theory that i wanna bring, it's that:
According to those many studies that I looked at the solved tables of the Crossword and looked at the connections between them both the ancient scientists and the new scientists specially the great scientist Albert Einstein,
As i mentioned that solving a concept access us to other concepts LOGARITHMIC!
Well,
According to this image[above], 13.7 billion years is passed to Now!
But in my humblest opinion, in viewpoint of The Background/Floor/Main/Base[the black background of the image], in that viewpoint the galaxies and all events of the cosmos is the same image along us!
And for we people, the objects/time is the same moment at the right of the image, take a while all the events are existed yet!
And if we were able to zoom out the cosmos to the maximum degree, we would able to see even the Inflation time that has been drawn on the left side of the image!
And each level we look at the left, the time for the same point is slower than the right!
Means for the point of the Inflation, and the better word, age of the point of Inflation is fewer than 1second yet!
Did you understand what i mean!??
I don't claim that i'm very clever and discovered many things!! And i admitted that those were the previous scientists that made our minds opened to solve these tables of the Crossword AS the more previous scientists made their minds to solve.... up to the most ancient scientists and the Root of Science
If the great scientists such as Albert Einstein didn't talk about these concepts even if some of scientists said wrong! Would we able to solve these concepts!?? Nope.
Therefore we should hear any opinion even wrong, and test them in the Crossword then Accept or Reject
For the more solving the tables of the Crossword, You have to look at something you don't like! I suggest sincerely and friendly! It's not important for us if you look or not
Time/Timeline/Curving The Time
Otherwise you can't access the more tables!! And can't realize what i say here
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Hi,
There are at least two choices
- Jabr: God Forces everything. How!? Before creating everything God Was Written their predestination
- Ikhtiyar: God CreatED everything and LetS everything work anyhow themselves will, work.
I researched and found some beliefs Jabr, and some other, Ikhtiyar.
But i wanna introduce "Bada'" بداء that it seems there is in Shi'a-Islam alone.
Well,
I made connection between several concepts of the Religion with today's science that there are specially within Shi'a alone, and even some other beliefs CONDEMN us for that!! And we discuss/debate here for find and access to other parts of the Crossword i proved!
These are:
- 1. Bada' (predestination/ freewill&forcing)
- 2. Bodily Ascension (of the prophet/ curving the time)
- 3. Rij'at (a series of resurrection in the same world)
- 4. Invisible God forever (not material God like gods of indians or new christians)
- 5. Race (not racism)
- 6. Following scientists (bcz of they discover the facts faster than others)
- 7. Kingdom (against republic[voting], in system of government)
These are the beliefs which other beliefs condemn us and we debate/discuss for find the truer for if they are truer we engage them in that concept
It's the better that be through the science!
Discuss/Debate based on your own experiences/study not based on your minds! but if you admit that it will be your opinion not the more.
Thanks.
Well,
I forgot write about Bada'
I created a thread https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/123951-before-the-big-bang/ and I showed a clear scientific reason to others that there is a thing before everything that Has To Be Existing!
The Same Thing Has all descriptions that God of Shi'a-Islam Has!
- He Is Invisible at all
- He Has Intelligence
- He Is The Greatest
- Everything be created after Him, those are include the creatures. even if He Will Make any face/body/voice/size/place/time for Himself, He Can't! because those will be include the next things after Him
- Anddddd.... here about the Bada'!! As you see, He Is Extended all the TIME from start/beginning to the End!
The number 5 proves the Bada' which Shi'a-Islam says!
According to the doctrines of Shi'a:
- The default is Ikhtiyar[FreeWill],
- Then God May Edit[Force] bit by bit of the Timeline!
And Bada' means each point of the Timeline that God Made/Makes/Will Edit!
For example,
Someone said according to the Mayan calendar the world should be ended!! but is hasn't been done!!
Shi'a Hadith:
One day prophet Solayman[pbuh] stands in his palace and tells people ask everything they will..
One came to him and asked: o' Solomon, a man came to me and was angry and i afraid him! Who is he!?
- He was the Angle Izra'il[Azrael pbuh]
- Wow!! God Has Given you key of everything! Could I ask you take me far from here
- Okay
Then the prophet moved him to jungles of India at the moment
After some day Azrael[pbuh] came to the prophet Solomon[pbuh]:
- O' Azrael, why did you make him worried!? that servant of God!?
- Nooo!! He misunderstood! Because i wasn't angry! And i was wondering that God Was Commanded me to get his soul in the jungle of India at that time! Take a while i met him in Israel a few minutes before death!! Then i was wonderful that how can he go from Israel to India during few minutes even if he has had many wings!!!
And i mentioned that The Science is such as an infinity circle crossword puzzle that each concept you solve, it will access you to connect at least two new concepts
Now i eat my launch then use these connections to the above thread and continue together...
Write your
Or Opinions,
Or Knowledges,
Or Experiences
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Hi,
Today was my 35year olding birthday
As you see from 1365-09-30 to 1399-09-30
I went to hospital for my pain of kidney
There isn't any sand/blast within my kidney
But it was for sadness
Exactly the same example that if you don't let your kidneys to be drained quickly, then you will be ill
And about sciences/knowledges of thinkers/scientists/researchers if we don't share our knowledge/theories/opinions to others, it will make us sad and ill.
Well,
According to this the simplest logical algorithm that if we assume the theory of big bang be truth/fact, then if we remove bit by bit of the details/objects of the Timeline from the big bang the scientists of today have claimed, What Is The Background of their image!??
We aren't allowed deny/reject their theory while we haven't had any source against that nor any experience that we/our ages have had about starting that!
Be aware that you aren't allowed say anything without have any source:
Study/Experiences.
Thanks.
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47 minutes ago, John Cuthber said:
Petrol in the UK is about £ 1.12 which is equivalent to about $1.50 per litre.
Water is delivered by pipe- it isn't normally metered; you pay for the connection rather than per litre. The cost is about £1.00 per day and you can use as much water as you need.
If you want to, you can get a water meter fitted and pay for it by volume.
The typical cost is about £1.90 per 1000 litres.It's not very helpful to compare prices unless you also compare incomes. Average salary in the UK is about £35,000 per year. I think that's a bit more than 3 times the average salary in Iran but the exchange rates vary with time and the tax systems are different.
We pay 1$ for 30,000litres water through piping!!
And average pay monthly 1$ for 4months!
And CNG for houses is 1$ for about 60m3 through piping!
But you wrote mistaken and your salaries are 35 times of ours!
LOL...
one day news said: Iranians are the most happy people because go to travel more than any people of the world!!
I said it's for price of the fuel lol hahaha
Once again the news said: NASA asked people to go to March and won't be able to returning back... then Iranians more than any other countries approved!!! And it shows they are the most fearless people!!
I said lol it's for their life that they want to make themselves dead lol hahaha
We should compare prices in countries depending on:
Salary
Payments monthly
Payment of house monthly
Therefore i thought and understood that this the same my own country is the better!!
For i had salary 3$ per hour [9 times of a simple worker] before Covid-18 and my wage was 25$ per hour before coming President Trump,
And ours is the better for life for me who want to purchase a Ninibus and travel around Iran with this price of Gasoil[diesel]
But if you join me to an explorer/discovery group there, Then i am ready to go there with the lest salary and the weakest house and the weakest place in any village and the humble job like guarding of a company or even guarding of a garden or etc...
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3 hours ago, John Cuthber said:
Then you have a potentially explosive mixture in a place that is not designed for it.
That's a bad idea.
It's probably going to invalidate your insurance too.
In the UK, the incentive to use LPG as a vehicle fuel is that it's cheap. The conversion cost- which is about £2000- is recovered because LPG is roughly half the price of petrol.
But if you live somewhere where all fuels are cheap, you will never cover the cost of doing the conversion properly.When your petrol is nearly as cheap as mineral water, why bother with the risk and hassle of converting?
It was been mistaken
1$ is = 50litters LPG = 3pieces of Sandwich = 60pieces of Bread = a whole dinner = 20litters mineral water lol
Also the cheaper! we have 60litters petrol monthly for our cars with price 3$ for all 60litters,
And have 300litters Diesel monthly with price 3$ for all 300litters!
But the Car/Truck/Minivoos/Bus is sooo expensive!
And we should purchase a 30year-old car equals a 2020model in other countries!
Exactly 180degree reversed in other countries that the fuel is sooo expensive and car is cheap!
And at all the human is how likes to upgrade daily and at all has avarice about everything
And while the 60litters of ours will be ended after an week, it will be sooo bad and makes us angry that after a week we should pay double money for them per litter! Lol😬😂
What is your prices in the UK!? that if I saw it's the better for life, i migrate there
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43 minutes ago, iNow said:
I’ll defer to a chemist for a better response than mine, but I don’t believe you can mix them at once. You’d need to setup the engine to burn one or the other.
Consider looking at dual fuel portable generators to see how they function. You must select LPG or gasoline, but can’t feed the engine with both simultaneously.
Okay
But i had a Mazda pickup and it's switch was been damaged and for a period it was using both Petrol and LPG at once!
And as the fuel is very cheap in the Middle East i was let it and it hadn't had any problem!
10 litter petrol = 20litters LPG = 40litters Diesel = 20litres mineral water = 3hrs working of a simple worker = 1$ In Iran[Now]
At all thanks for guided me..
I'm await for other opinions/knowledges/experiences
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Hi,
I installed manually a LPG tank and other devices for my car but the mixer[air/fuel]
Then i thought what will be if i connect the pipe of output of LPG into the Air filter box directly without any mixer,
But i cut wires of the TPS and put one resistor instead of that that deceive the ECU and the ECU think the Throttle is always closed and command the Injector to inject fewer fuel [at all speeds]
But I connect the TPS to a series of devices that inject LPG instead of the rest needy fuel[petrol]
Is that Okay !?
Means at once there be Petrol/LPG/Air mixed together into the engine
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On 4/21/2020 at 3:08 PM, coolscienceguy444 said:
Hi Guys, can science make us live longer in the near future to maybe 100-150 years old somehow through an anti aging drug/age reversal drug or some other therapy/intervention that you can think of? Please don't discuss about Coronavirus here as it is not really relevant to the question
Hi guy,
Have we created the human!??
Were we witnessed that how the human were created!??
Are we aware about the body of human completely!???
Therefore you should ask us:
Do you have any Knowledge that the science can make us live longer or not!
I have a series of sources/datas that say YES!
How does predestination work in your belief?
in Religion
Both of your questions have filled tables of the Crossword in that post and we arrived to a row/column of the Crossword that your questions make them filled!
In that post we arrived at a series of informations that the Heaviest object of the Cosmos is the Arsh[Throne of God] but in the Qur'an says: 'Allaho TSamad' means the Throne of God is TSamad! Not mean Himself![i think- and or maybe wrong]
And in that post we proved by science that
This is a scientific forum that I say these informations! And you are all scientists or science lovers! And are able to realize/recognise what i say.. otherwise the rest of people[non-scientific] will be crazy if read these concepts!
If God Wanna Speak with prophet Moses, He Should Make a fire and Move the molecules of air for Make His Voice simulation.
And by the same fire Shows to the prophet that he look at that place!
I'm sure 99% that it's about all scientists especially the astronomers