raildex Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Hey, Im new here, I have a theory I thought up and my friend suggested I post this here. I have no idea whether this could be plausible or not, however I have an idea for how higher dimensions work above the 4th. So the other day I saw a video talking about using higher dimensions as shortcuts to travel such as if you draw a line on a piece of paper you can instead of going along the line, you could fold the paper and go directly from point a to point b, similar to how a wormhole would work in theory. So where I started thinking was I imagined the 4th dimension 'time' as the entire span of a single timeline as a single point. and so if you wanted to reach a different timeline you would have to take a shortcut through the higher 5th dimension and draw a line between these two points in the lower dimensional representation so that the 1st = 4th (a point) and the 2nd = the 5th (a line). Then to get the 6th dimension you would go another higher from the second dimension to the third in which case the 6th dimension would be every possible timeline of a single universe becoming a cube of timelines. You could then condense that single universe to a single point and repeat the same process up to the 8th dimension in which it would be every possible universe. I hope I explained my idea well enough, I've heard that there are 11 dimensions but using my theory I cant figure out what could come after the 8th dimension being every possible universe. Could you let me know your thoughts? Edited May 17, 2016 by raildex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider5678 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) You're gonna have to explain them a little bit more, they are currently seeming like a jumble of words. Edited May 17, 2016 by Raider5678 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAndrewSAMA Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I totally agree with you, and what you are saying is well explained by Rob Bryanton in his book and YouTube channel. Search for 10thdim on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hey, Im new here, I have a theory I thought up and my friend suggested I post this here. I have no idea whether this could be plausible or not, however I have an idea for how higher dimensions work above the 4th. So the other day I saw a video talking about using higher dimensions as shortcuts to travel such as if you draw a line on a piece of paper you can instead of going along the line, you could fold the paper and go directly from point a to point b, similar to how a wormhole would work in theory. That doesn't require any higher dimensions. You can represent that in the 4 dimensions of space-time (or even just 3 spatial dimensions, I suppose). I'm afraid I can't follow the rest of your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider5678 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hey, Im new here, I have a theory I thought up and my friend suggested I post this here. I have no idea whether this could be plausible or not, however I have an idea for how higher dimensions work above the 4th. So the other day I saw a video talking about using higher dimensions as shortcuts to travel such as if you draw a line on a piece of paper you can instead of going along the line, you could fold the paper and go directly from point a to point b, similar to how a wormhole would work in theory. So where I started thinking was I imagined the 4th dimension 'time' as the entire span of a single timeline as a single point. and so if you wanted to reach a different timeline you would have to take a shortcut through the higher 5th dimension and draw a line between these two points in the lower dimensional representation so that the 1st = 4th (a point) and the 2nd = the 5th (a line). Then to get the 6th dimension you would go another higher from the second dimension to the third in which case the 6th dimension would be every possible timeline of a single universe becoming a cube of timelines. You could then condense that single universe to a single point and repeat the same process up to the 8th dimension in which it would be every possible universe. I hope I explained my idea well enough, I've heard that there are 11 dimensions but using my theory I cant figure out what could come after the 8th dimension being every possible universe. Could you let me know your thoughts? Ok, I'm going to have crack at explaining his "theory". So there are the first 3 dimensions. Horizontal, then vertical, then a cube blah blah blah, I hope you guys understand that. Once you get to the 4th, you start thinking in terms of time. To do this, let's imagine the 4th dimension is the first dimension, left to right. You travel this dimension by going Up/right the "timestream" and down/left the "timestream" Moving though these changes where you are on the time stream. Say your in timestream "A" you can travel the time stream. Once you reach the 5th dimension, your traveling between 2/infinite time streams. This means not only are you on time stream "A" but now you can move to time stream "B" The 6th dimension would be traveling throughout EVERY possible time stream in a SINGLE universe, which is where it starts getting confusing. You're already traveling through time streams, but in the 5th I'm assuming it isn't every possible timestream, but rather, something else*. Since the Universe is physical, something we can currently actually travel in, I'm assuming each time stream is a time stream of the whole universe. Ok, If I'm correct, say something so we can base it off of this slightly less confusing explanation, meanwhile, I would like to point some things out. A point isn't the first dimension, its 0 dimensions, without size in ANY direction. A line is the first dimension. Your wormhole point is good, though most of us know it already. Just to be clear, wormholes are PURELY hypothetical, at least until we know they exist for sure. The 11 dimensions you were talking about use string theory. Now just to be clear a dimension is usually telling you where something is, not traveling, which is the misinterpreted part for most people, including me. Say the center of earth was 0,0,0,0. That's 0X 0Y 0Z 0T, where T = time. So basically I would say meet me at 45,64,6324, at 10:00 P.M. (please don't) *Please clarify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 First off, String Theory doesn't have much support from evidence. It's interesting, but it's not our current best explanation of how the universe works. Second, you're mixing a few other hypotheses like multiple universes into it, which is really confusing. You're picking and choosing what sounds cool to make this idea work. That's not science. Third, spatial dimensions above 3 aren't well understood physically. To add dimensions, you start with length and draw a line, first dimension. To get the second dimension, you take every point along that line and move 90 degrees away, adding width and forming a square. Now take every point on the surface of the square and move 90 degrees away to add height and form a cube. To get a fourth dimension, you'd need to move 90 degrees away from every point on the cube, forming a hypercube. People have an incredibly hard time visualizing this. I totally agree with you, and what you are saying is well explained by Rob Bryanton in his book and YouTube channel. Search for 10thdim on YouTube. This guy is a known crackpot spouting nonsense. This is how so much guesswork gets passed off as science. This guy is allergic to evidence and prefers to wave his hands a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raildex Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 First off, String Theory doesn't have much support from evidence. It's interesting, but it's not our current best explanation of how the universe works. Second, you're mixing a few other hypotheses like multiple universes into it, which is really confusing. You're picking and choosing what sounds cool to make this idea work. That's not science. Third, spatial dimensions above 3 aren't well understood physically. To add dimensions, you start with length and draw a line, first dimension. To get the second dimension, you take every point along that line and move 90 degrees away, adding width and forming a square. Now take every point on the surface of the square and move 90 degrees away to add height and form a cube. To get a fourth dimension, you'd need to move 90 degrees away from every point on the cube, forming a hypercube. People have an incredibly hard time visualizing this. This guy is a known crackpot spouting nonsense. This is how so much guesswork gets passed off as science. This guy is allergic to evidence and prefers to wave his hands a lot. I did my best to figure out what made the most sense logically, I did not base anything off of 'coolness'. My thoughts were that dimensions 4-6 would be temporal and dimensions 7 and 8 would be an odd mix of spatial and temporal as they include time and space making up a single universe. In order to avoid the hypercube scenario I tried representing the other dimensions 3 Dimensionally making it easier to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I did my best to figure out what made the most sense logically, I did not base anything off of 'coolness'. My thoughts were that dimensions 4-6 would be temporal and dimensions 7 and 8 would be an odd mix of spatial and temporal as they include time and space making up a single universe. I know what one could mean by temporal and spacial dimensions, up to convention it is defined by looking at the metric at a point: you can in any coordinate system bring it to canonical form as diag (-1,-1,...-1, 1,1 ..1) depending on the number of dimensions. As for as mix I have no idea. Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I know what one could mean by temporal and spacial dimensions, up to convention it is defined by looking at the metric at a point: you can in any coordinate system bring it to canonical form as diag (-1,-1,...-1, 1,1 ..1) depending on the number of dimensions. As for as mix I have no idea. Please explain. I've heard of theories that use multiple temporal dimensions as part of the model, but has this proven at all useful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 None that I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I've heard of theories that use multiple temporal dimensions as part of the model, but has this proven at all useful? Such things come up when using twistors, including twistor string theory. I do not think such things have directly been used in phenomenologically interesting theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trixy Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Hello I am Trixy and I too am new to this sight. I posted once about the two new books out by a author named Potter. But I was locked out because the administrator thought I was a spam mail. I read these two books on teleportation and it seemed to simplifies and answer many of my own questions. I will supply a link for you two view them . There is two different books under the TOC project. But the simplicity of the working order of the complete universe is diagrammed out for you with almost child like instructions. I still would enjoy talking about the subject of teleportation in the fututre with anyone who is interested. Nobody is interested Hello again its Trix. I am going to post a link to a you tube video that will visually and verbally show you by example how to conclude at the tenth dimension. Hope it helps. It does not help Hello its Trixy again. I am also attaching a link that will show you exactly how to arrive at the tenth dimension. Hope it helps. No more advertising, please Edited May 20, 2016 by Phi for All ad links removed per Rule 2.7 -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 This is a science forum, not a pace to spam books by deluded idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Hanke Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I posted once about the two new books out by a author named Potter. Harry Potter ? He sure knew his teleportation techniques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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