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#1 us.2u 


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http://www.metaresea..._of_gravity.asp


I would love to know if this could be possible also I remember in my youth riding a pedal cycle at night seemed to be easier than riding in daylight & sound seems to travel further when it's dark; is this just imaginable or maybe light does slow things down slightly? And if gravitity is faster than light can we somehow store it for space tr :confused: avel?...us.2u
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#2 ecoli 


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this is a repeat post:

http://www.sciencefo...t=speed+gravity
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#3 ydoaPs 


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that site is just pseudoscience. the first paragraph of the home page basically says modern astronomy/cosmology is crap.
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#4 User is online  J.C.MacSwell 


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http://www.metaresea..._of_gravity.asp


I would love to know if this could be possible also I remember in my youth riding a pedal cycle at night seemed to be easier than riding in daylight & sound seems to travel further when it's dark; is this just imaginable or maybe light does slow things down slightly? And if gravitity is faster than light can we somehow store it for space tr :confused: avel?...us.2u


Less background noise, less wind/turbulence generally.
and colder air, again generally.
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#5 Rekkr 


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Haven't you ever heard of the space-time continuum? Einstein solved all this nearly a century ago with his theory of special relativity.
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#6 us.2u 


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Thanks for your insight Yourdadonapogas I believed they had something there; that gravity might be faster than light; can we measure the speed of gravity? Can we create it? as to making spaceflight? How do we define gravity & light as I believe there seems to be no volume, or mass but do they have energy? & can it be measured? Also when there is abscence of light is the gravitational force weaker or do we just imagine this?... us.2u
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#7 User is online  swansont 


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us.2u said:

can we measure the speed of gravity?


Yes. It's been discussed in another thread.
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#8 crzykllrghst 


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In trems of terminal velociy, gravity could be "faster" so to speak. Gravity's terminal velocity depends on the amount of mass a subject has, such as pen on your desk, it's terminal velocity is nearly zero, and the earths is seven f/s, and a black holes is greater than the speed of light(2.988 x 10^9 m/s I think correct me if i'm wrong)
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#9 us.2u 


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Thanks crzykllrghst do you think eventually gravity could be stored to propel a mass object? I don't know how this might work but does it sound feasible for future travel in space? maybe gyro-scopically controlled by use of magnetism & gravity like our first flying saucer? Or does this seem outrageous?...us.2u
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#10 crzykllrghst 


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us.2u said:

Thanks crzykllrghst do you think eventually gravity could be stored to propel a mass object? I don't know how this might work but does it sound feasible for future travel in space? maybe gyro-scopically controlled by use of magnetism & gravity like our first flying saucer? Or does this seem outrageous?...us.2u

For the times, it seems outrageous, but I dont know what the future my hold for travel.
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#11 User is online  swansont 


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crzykllrghst]In trems of terminal velociy, gravity could be"faster" so to speak. Gravity said:

I think[/B'] correct me if i'm wrong)


How are you defining "terminal velocity?"
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#12 crzykllrghst 


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swansont said:

How are you defining "terminal velocity?"

the maxmium speed of an object in a vacuum caused by gravity's "pull"
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#13 KholdStunner 


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omg, haha, i had a thread EXACTLY like this, but only about 2 people posted in it and it died... anyways.


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#14 ydoaPs 


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links or at least a description of the experments that "proved" the speed of gravity to that of c?
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#15 KholdStunner 


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ok, ill try and find one. i remember reading about it a year or so ago, and then seeing it on the discovery channel (haha, what a great source ;))

ill post it if i can find it.
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#16 KholdStunner 


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this link shows how the gravity could be faster than the speed of light: http://www.ldolphin....avityspeed.html

heres another link:
http://www.ldolphin.org/vanFlandern/

heres a link about people talking about how people found out that they r the same speed, and they are also posing new, unanswered questions:
http://www.physicsfo..._to_light?.html



after doing some research, i found out i shouldnt have used the word 'proved'. but i have found the approximate speed of light which is 2.99792 x 108 meters per second, this relates VERY closesly to the speed of light.



heres the experiemnt with a brief description:
http://whatis.techta...i874815,00.html
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#17 User is online  swansont 


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yourdadonapogos said:

links or at least a description of the experments that "proved" the speed of gravity to that of c?


It's in the other thread that I mentioned; there is a search function available. It's cryptically called How fast is gravity?
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#18 User is online  swansont 


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this link shows how the gravity could be faster than the speed of light: http://www.ldolphin....avityspeed.html

heres another link:
http://www.ldolphin.org/vanFlandern/

heres a link about people talking about how people found out that they r the same speed, and they are also posing new, unanswered questions:
http://www.physicsfo..._to_light?.html


van Flandern does not represent the mainstream of physics. Sturgeon's Law (90% of everything is crud) is especially relevant to the internet's plethora of "I don't believe relativity" population.
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#19 User is online  swansont 


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crzykllrghst said:

the maxmium speed of an object in a vacuum caused by gravity's "pull"


Why does a pen sitting on a desk have a terminal velocity of zero? Why do you think it's mass dependent?
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#20 Ophiolite 


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swansont said:

Why does a pen sitting on a desk have a terminal velocity of zero? Why do you think it's mass dependent?
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