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#1 sevenseas

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Posted 8 June 2013 - 05:50 PM

The observatory of Lisbon has published a video of Comet ISON, causing panic.
 

The comet will be visible  DURING THE DAY on all the planet on November 29 2013.

 

 

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See the shocking video here:

 

http://third-secret..../h51-comet-ison

 

 

ps :enable java-script if you have problems to load the video

 

 

The 10 km wide core of comet will practically touch the surface of the sun, if the comet survives its orbit will be changed irreversibly, and it will be a Russian roulette for earth.

 

If we believe their calculations ISON WILL BE ON COLLISION COURSE WITH EARTH, WITH IMPACT IN DECEMBER.

 

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Posted 8 June 2013 - 06:11 PM

what ever happened to your cross on the sun thing ?
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Posted 8 June 2013 - 06:13 PM

The observatory of Lisbon has published a video of Comet ISON, causing panic.
 

The comet will be visible  DURING THE DAY on all the planet on November 29 2013.

 

 

uM24C1a.jpg

 

 

See the shocking video here:

 

http://third-secret..../h51-comet-ison

 

 

I am really looking forward to that, it will be awesome!


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Posted 8 June 2013 - 07:52 PM

http://science.nasa....8jan_cometison/

Let's not go overboard. Not only are comets "unpredictable" (as that NASA link says), using words like "shocking" is sensationalism. Especially since it won't come anywhere near Earth.
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Posted 8 June 2013 - 08:05 PM

http://science.nasa....8jan_cometison/

Let's not go overboard. Not only are comets "unpredictable" (as that NASA link says), using words like "shocking" is sensationalism. Especially since it won't come anywhere near Earth.

 

 

The comet ISON HAS A 10 KILOMETERS CORE, it will be so close to the sun that its trajectory will not be stable or predictable any longer, so it could be rerouted to earth..

 

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#6 John Cuthber

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Posted 8 June 2013 - 08:14 PM

Is it possible for someone to change the tile to this thread because it's plainly misleading.

Who is shocked? Who is panicking?


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Posted 8 June 2013 - 08:23 PM

The comet ISON HAS A 10 KILOMETERS CORE, it will be so close to the sun that its trajectory will not be stable or predictable any longer, so it could be rerouted to earth..

From the link I gave you:

A break-up would pose no threat to Earth, assures Yeomans. "Comet ISON is not on a collision course. If it breaks up, the fragments would continue along the same safe trajectory as the original comet."

It doesn't say anything about a possible rerouting of the comet's path. Probably because there is none. We know how orbits work.
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Posted 8 June 2013 - 09:32 PM

Isn't that the one that is supposed to pass very close to Mars? 



Is it possible for someone to change the tile to this thread because it's plainly misleading.

Who is shocked? Who is panicking?

 

 

Evidently sevenseas is tongue.png


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Posted 8 June 2013 - 10:02 PM

Is it possible for someone to change the tile to this thread because it's plainly misleading.

 

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Posted 9 June 2013 - 10:16 AM

Comets have struck Earth in the past. This was, in the early days, beneficial, since they provided a proportion of our water and perhaps a lot of out prebiotic chemistry. Later impacts were less convenient. A cometary strike today would be a disaster for civilisation and humanity. However, with a tiny smidgeon of luck we shall have the technology to detect and deflect such threats in the near future.

 

Therefore, Seven Seas, can you not find a more conviincing topic with which to troll the forum? This amateurish effort isn't even amusing.


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Posted 9 June 2013 - 03:46 PM

The observatory of Lisbon has published a video of Comet ISON, (...).

Is that so?
I cannot find the info from the site of the Astronomical Observatory of Lisbon.


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Posted 9 June 2013 - 03:53 PM

it appears sevenseas is a end of the world advocate.

according to the past they have never been correct(obviously)(including mayans)

but if you continue to say the world will end,
at some point in humanity it maybe correct.
even if it would be centuries later or such.
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Posted 9 June 2013 - 04:12 PM


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 06:48 AM

Basically, there is no need to destroy the whole Earth for making "the end of the world".

It would suffice to make human being completely dumb.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 03:10 AM

If NASA sees a comet this far in advanced they would likely have enough time to plan out a counter measure for when it loops around, but based on the fact that they have made no such attempts it most likely will not hit Earth. There's been closer comets before that have grazed the atmosphere. Besides, it cannot possibly be "globally" visible unless it circles the entire Earth within a day, so if you are monotheistic you'd have to ask why god would give some people a fair warning and others none at all, though you should be asking about a lot more than that in the first place.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 12:17 PM

If NASA sees a comet this far in advanced they would likely have enough time to plan out a counter measure for when it loops around, but based on the fact that they have made no such attempts it most likely will not hit Earth.

Your optimism is misplaced. NASA completely lacks the technology to do anything about such a comet were it on a collision course with the Earth. We are decades away from having such technology.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 03:10 PM

Your optimism is misplaced. NASA completely lacks the technology to do anything about such a comet were it on a collision course with the Earth. We are decades away from having such technology.

10 Kilometers is pretty big, but at that incredibly large distance, trillions of miles from us more than eight light minutes, an impact from a large weight at a certain velocity for even half a degree shift would be enough to steer it off course, that's their first planned measure for meteors that are on a course for Earth, problem is if the asteroid is too loose the weight may not impact the whole asteroid enough or if the asteroid is rotating heavily it may hit at the wrong angle and just make the asteroid spin differently. Otherwise we'd have to vaporize the asteroid, the amount of nukes it would take to completely vaporize it could end up damaging Earth in some way if the asteroid is too close or the asteroid could be loose enough that the explosion does not effect enough of the rocks as there is no atmosphere to carry any shockwaves. Though we at one point had enough nukes to destroy the entire Earth a few times over, I think NASA's definitely considered using them on an asteroid. 


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 03:48 PM

Though we at one point had enough nukes to destroy the entire Earth a few times over, I think NASA's definitely considered using them on an asteroid. 

 

I agree with much of your post (though we don't know for certain whether any proposed scheme will work in practice), but for the record, we've never had enough nukes to destroy the entire Earth. We maybe have enough now to ruin most of the land area (if we assume reported numbers don't account for all nuclear weapons actually in existence, and depending on the average yield), and maybe at one point had enough to ruin nearly all of it, but we've never come even remotely close to having the power to blow up the planet.

 

If you meant "destroy much of the surface" (as in making it unsuitable for life or modern civilization), then I apologize, but in context it looks like you were talking about actually blowing up the planet.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:56 PM

10 Kilometers is pretty big, but at that incredibly large distance, trillions of miles from us more than eight light minutes, an impact from a large weight at a certain velocity for even half a degree shift would be enough to steer it off course, that's their first planned measure for meteors that are on a course for Earth, problem is if the asteroid is too loose the weight may not impact the whole asteroid enough or if the asteroid is rotating heavily it may hit at the wrong angle and just make the asteroid spin differently. 

 

10 kilometers isn't just pretty big. It's flippin' ginormous. Could a fly change the trajectory of a bowling ball enough to change a strike into a gutter ball? That's the kind of change that is needed here.

 

Moreover, you are assuming that the incoming comet is reachable. It's not. The best we could do with our meager technology to intercept a comet coming on in a highly inclined, highly eccentric trajectory would be to launch a few days before impact, and that of course is far too late. Diverting an asteroid of this size on an orbit somewhat similar to Earth's orbit would require a decade or so of advance warning using today's technology. Diverting a comet: We don't have the technology, period.

 

 

That said, this particular comet is not going to hit us. It's not even going to come close.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 06:37 PM

"Could a fly change the trajectory of a bowling ball enough to change a strike into a gutter ball?"

Yes, if the bowling ball was travelling from far enough away.


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