Moontanman Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) This topic is evidently being bandied about but the idea at this time is closer to pure speculation than reality according to this article.http://us.cnn.com/2013/01/24/opinion/caplan-neanderthal-baby/index.html?hpt=hp_c3But if we can should we? Clone one? A small group? Could neanderthal DNA added back to our gene pool increase the over all fitness of the human race? Is there any defensible reason to do so? Would anyone even notice? Edited February 24, 2013 by Moontanman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john5746 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I don't think it should be done. But if it is, they should be recognized as people, not property. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Would anyone even notice?If a large group were cloned in secret and introduced into the general population, I don't think anyone would notice. The only real difference between us and our extinct cousins is that their brains are bigger and they have slightly larger brows and noses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 If a large group were cloned in secret and introduced into the general population, I don't think anyone would notice. The only real difference between us and our extinct cousins is that their brains are bigger and they have slightly larger brows and noses. The neanderthal genome would mix with our own again and generations on they would be absorbed into the population... maybe? I used to work with a guy, in the encyclopedia under neanderthal was "his" picture, I ragged him incessantly over it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPanic Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I am not sure what human rights would have to say about this, but I think that it would be totally unethical to keep any person as a test subject. Cloning a Neanderthal with the purpose to do research would therefore be unethical. Is there any way to guarantee a cloned Neanderthal a normal life? I do not think so. Research would show a massive interest, and this person would stand out as someone / something special. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud Antoine ANDRIEU Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) This topic is evidently being bandied about but the idea at this time is closer to pure speculation than reality according to this article. http://us.cnn.com/2013/01/24/opinion/caplan-neanderthal-baby/index.html?hpt=hp_c3 But if we can should we? Clone one? A small group? Could neanderthal DNA added back to our gene pool increase the over all fitness of the human race? Is there any defensible reason to do so? Would anyone even notice? I agree. Evidence and intelligence has been clamped to 10% Edited February 25, 2013 by Arnaud Antoine ANDRIEU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 I agree. Evidence and intelligence has been clamped to 10% I don't understand what you mean, please elaborate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grockel Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 A cloned neanderthal could lead a normal life provided it's existance was not made public. A neanderthal would most likely be like a retarded human and could go to a special school etc. I see no ethical reason why we can't clone a neanderthal, humans are already having kids with down syndrome and that's allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 A neanderthal would most likely be like a retarded human and could go to a special school etc. [citation needed] The average cranial capacity of Homos Sapiens Neandethalensis is significantly larger than the average cranial capacity of Homo Sapiens Sapiens. On what grounds do you base your claim that a Neanderthal would be, to use your pejorative, "retarded"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud Antoine ANDRIEU Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) I don't understand what you mean, please elaborate... Oh yes forgiveness. Rather with the Sumerians. I heard the same story between us and them. j have confused. Edited February 25, 2013 by Arnaud Antoine ANDRIEU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 From "another" forum... It would certainly be a fascinating experiment to clone a Neanderthal man.He might be just what we need nowadays. The present-day Homo Sapiens species seems to be sadly declining into an effete rut. We could do with an invigorating Neanderthal "blast from the past". It would give our genes a fresh kick.Female scientists, especially, may enthuse. If a full-grown Neanderthal man was recreated, I bet he'd have a really good time. Any "female scientists" like to chime in on this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john5746 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 The strong silent type maybe? Well, plenty of those abound in bars. On the other hand, a female Neanderthal? Would she be the dominating type? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consistency Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Italian's look like Neanderthal's and quality tech has come from Italian's... so why do we need to clone them? -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 ! Moderator Note Italian's look like Neanderthal's and quality tech has come from Italian's... so why do we need to clone them? Consistency The above comment is unacceptable - please refer to the forum rules especially rule 1 regarding civility. Do not respond to this modnote in the thread. Report this post if you feel the modnote is unjust or unwarranted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamorph Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 There are people living today who have been found to have up to 5% Neanderthal genes from inter-breeding many, many years ago (sorry, can't quote source - it was a recent TV science programme tracing an individuals past in the UK through his DNA markers). If a Neanderthal baby was cloned and kept in an experimental setting, then we would learn about their biology but not their sociology. If a Neanderthal baby was cloned and raised as an 'ordinary' baby, would we even notice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 There are people living today who have been found to have up to 5% Neanderthal genes from inter-breeding many, many years ago (sorry, can't quote source - it was a recent TV science programme tracing an individuals past in the UK through his DNA markers). http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/green-neanderthals.html "Surprisingly, about the same amount of Neanderthal ancestry is seen in all non-African genomes, even people from places where Neanderthals never lived, like the New World." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consistency Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) Here is some truth about Neanderthals to wager in... http://www.thematrix.co.uk/texttopic.asp?ID=8 Edited March 4, 2013 by Consistency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooya Khodadadi Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/green-neanderthals.html "Surprisingly, about the same amount of Neanderthal ancestry is seen in all non-African genomes, even people from places where Neanderthals never lived, like the New World." Thats what I was thinking...... Thanks for sharing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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