This is simply fascinating;

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/14/20/5231

The authors suggest that the function of the pyramid was related to hydraulics.  

All advancement in the study of the pyramids is now outside Egyptology which still won't release the infrared results from 2015. 

 

I have some question about the validity of all these results but I'm quite confident at least some of it is fully legitimate and accurate.   I'm still digesting it.  

(b Interferometric fringes of Khnum-Khufu

I seriously doubt we'll understand the pyramids until we give up the notion that its builders were superstitious.  

Edited February 8, 20251 yr by cladking

Thank you for posting this update, +1

Just now, cladking said:

This is simply fascinating;

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/14/20/5231

I note that right at the beginning the authors acknowledge difficulties with solid-penetrating radar and later introduce ulltrasonic tomography.

 

I too have had better reliability and accuracy. looking into solids with ultrasonics than with radar

On 2/8/2025 at 5:02 PM, studiot said:

Thank you for posting this update, +1

I note that right at the beginning the authors acknowledge difficulties with solid-penetrating radar and later introduce ulltrasonic tomography.

 

I too have had better reliability and accuracy. looking into solids with ultrasonics than with radar

I should understand this study and its results better than I do.  I didn't realize when I posted it that it is essentially the same study done a couple years back that I didn't post here because I found the results to be suspicious, but more importantly, because the results neither support Egyptological theory nor mine.  Indeed, the passages can be taken as internal ramps better supporting their concepts than mine.   I no longer have access to the original so can't compare them but the only change may be that more math is shown.  

There will be more and more of this sort of testing and remote sensing with ever better equipment, analysis, and expertise whether Egyptology cooperates or not.  There are more theoretical means of imaging these that haven't been invented and developed yet.   I have little doubt the answers will be forthcoming within a few years.   

Tomography is a highly mathematical subject that takes a great deal of postgraduate level understanding.

On 2/15/2025 at 4:45 PM, studiot said:

Tomography is a highly mathematical subject that takes a great deal of postgraduate level understanding.

Thanks.  I was never very good at math beyond the calculus and I've lost a lot of it.   

This is very long and might not be worth the time but it has several new points that are quite interesting.  Apparently there are mathematical  relationships between the various characteristics.  Some of these could be contrived but they make an interesting argument and imply a lot of mathematical knowledge of the makers.  Second and of more interest to me they found titanium and/ or a titanium alloy in the track of the tube drill that was apparently used to hollow them.  

There's growing interest here just as there is growing interest in all the other facts that have been dismissed by Egyptologists for many years.   Events are unfolding ever faster as I predicted.  This year might be a watershed year in the determination of how the pyramids were built.  A lot more people and a lot more scientists from many disciplines are beginning to look at these subjects.  In the past only Egyptology had any financial backing and they had extensive funding.   

5 hours ago, cladking said:

Thanks.  I was never very good at math beyond the calculus and I've lost a lot of it.   

This is very long and might not be worth the time but it has several new points that are quite interesting.  Apparently there are mathematical  relationships between the various characteristics.

There is a lot to consider when you investigate the geometry, structure and composition of something using radiation of some sort, including sound or other mechanical waves or pulses.

The maths to understand principles of this is not too difficult.
It is the extraction of the detailed numbers that requires thye sophisticated stuff, correctly applied.

For instance you need to decide whether you are going to use transmitted, refracted or reflected rays.
If using direct transmission as with X rays you need access to both sides of the object / material.
This can be a major difficulty.

Single side access can be accomplished using reflected rays.

The wavelength determines the size of feature, void or discontinuity you can determine.

We can discuss this further if you wish.

 

On 2/28/2025 at 6:32 AM, studiot said:

We can discuss this further if you wish.

Come to think of it, even if I don't get much out of an explanation perhaps others will.  

 

This is so long I hesitate to post it but anyone interested in the various perspectives related to the vases might want to look at parts of the first half.  Matt Beall is very articulate.   

These vases are exceedingly common and the Egyptological viewpoint that they are all fakes doesn't seem to hold water.  

Many (thousands) of reproductions are sold but they sell for low prices and many pieces have been in private collections for many decades.  There are obvious differences between rough originals, rough reproductions, and the ones from private collections.  It has always been up to Egyptology to prove their hypotheses but they simply don't address any such issues.  They do not study the artefacts and when anomalies are found by outside scientists they brush them off.  

In most satellite photos taken in the morning you can clearly see the ruins of the devise used to load and lift the stones for G1. It's the little black hole near the center of this photo;

Its depth of ~17' defines the length of the "dndndr-boat" which was the part of the linear funicular that lifted the stone.

The little grey area is the remains of "The Great Saw Palace" to the left in the first picture, where stones delivered to the valley port (Called "Ro She Khufu) were cut for use as cladding and then whisked up the side.

This loading device for the linear funicular (Bull of Heaven) allowed stones to be loaded at the same elevation on the ground; the dndndr boat sank into the water as more stones were loaded. This loading device was called the "min".

My AI refers to this device when I used the following prompt;

The top of the ocean is very heavy and pushes down proportionally on the bottom that pushes up at the vessel. So long as it remains a vessel defined as something lighter than the water it displaces it will float. In an aircraft carrier shaped bowl with the vessel in it the water in it still pushes up proportional to its depth.
Ancient people thought funny.
There was nothing wrong with it but it looks like nonsense to the children of babel. Every ancient person understood physics and some of our finest physicists think an airplane can't take off from a conveyor belt.

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It mentioned that this same thing applied to the min and how they understood its nature.

Ancient people weren't smarter than we are but they saw the world in terms of procedural logic which is the basis of reality and consciousness itself where we see our beliefs and models.

This is about a different way to think. We use abstractions and think categorically but they used the natural procedural logic encoded in every individual's DNA.

I know this is weird to people but all the evidence is there right in front of our eyes and we don't see it because nothing fits our definitions and categories. Our species (homo circularis rationatio) is the odd man out in all of nature. All of life and all of reality operate according to the dictates of procedural logic while we see what we believe.

Stones were shipped across the river, pulled up the causeway, cut in the mason's shop and then pulled straight up the sides of the five step pyramid.

Our language is symbolic, analog, and abstract. Theirs was representative and binary like a computer code. They thought in terms of this language or perhaps more accurately their language was a reflection of the way they thought so physics was natural to them.

Water displaced by the min was used for work in the local quarry just to the south. The rest of the water was mostly used in cliff face funiculars to pull stones up from the quarry. This is what the the the thermal anomalies show;

These are the locations that water entered the pyramids or where passages existed for workers to enter or leave,

We can believe our eyes or the proclamations that "they mustta used ramps".

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