Socrates vision of kvarton universe

[Salonis]

(Machine translation)

 

The introductory part of a comprehensive treatise Socrates vision of kvarton universe

 

 

Socrates hypothesis of kvarton's universe, I hope that a sufficiently credible solves century controversy éterists with relativists. Age-old rivalry of the two camps has created an ideological trench mutual misunderstanding of reality: Relativists never failed to causally explain the existence of such as limit velocity, nor known dielectric properties of "emptiness" - the vacuum. In contrast, supporters of the ether are unable to causally explain its two apparently antagonistic properties: the ability to transmit electromagnetic waves also the highest frequency which is often associated with ultra-high-density hypothetical aether particles, while passing with zero resistance material bodies through this ultradense environment. Socrates solution to all these ambivalenceand of both views on vacuum is a new perspective on the relationship of material objects and physical fabric of space. This view formulates this definition:

 

Matter, (mass), appears in the space wherever parity is violated balanced antipodial material elements constituting the structure of the physical vacuum.

 

This is the alpha of kvarton‘ physics! Socrates' conception don't speculate of yet unknown properties of the internal structure of these elements that is based on a pragmatic recognition that these protoelements show a basic ability to materially affect each other and bonded together to create the system. Such a fundamental bonded systém coupled with a mutual saturation effect of four primary antipodean protoelements is still hypothetical kvarton, as the basic unit of physical space. That is why it is at the very base Socrates kvarton' protophysics.

 

Fatal error of postLorentz' physics, which have shifted to contemporary physics to physmatics until the physmystics was confusing interpretation of results M-M experiment. The error, however, at the time stemmed from very vague to the mystical concept of "filler" the space. At that time the idea of filling the ether, as foreign, immaterial substance, without causal links and organic material objects couldn't lead to controversy misunderstanding of M-M experiment. Primitive idea these physicists that around the solid globe flying through the ether must "whistle ether wind" necessarily have to end the general feeling of frustration and destroy the pillars of classical physics, culminating in Einsteinian relativity of everything, i.e. denial of the universality of the material fabric of space. In their apology, it should be noted that the material had no clue about the material nature and structure of the gravitational field. It was clear to them that if the hypothetical gravitational field "accompany" each body as it moves through space, but did not realize that along with the outer layer of the globe rotates the structure of the gravitational field generated by the outer layer. What wonder that rotating material environment showed of Michelson' interferometer associated with a rotating globe no "ether wind"? Rotating luminiferous environment with structure of the gravitational field and element of interferometer, were to each other in peace! Even on this hypothesis is based Socrates' gravitational field structures.

Another situation is Sagnac experiment.There is evidently does local motion of rotating Sagnac equipment to luminiferous structure of the gravitational field. And so there is also a shift of interference fringes, proportional to relative motion (rotation) Sagnac device to structure gravitional field! Another type of "evidence" that there is no ether was an attempt by physicistsTrouton and Noble with freely suspended charged capacitor. Here again, there is no factual capacitor plates move towards kvarton' gravitational structure, which is necessary for the emergence of "additional" magnetic field.

Einstein' idea of total relativity for decades froze and suppressed fundamental research of material structure of vacuum. When it became relativistic models of relations and inparticular the interactions between elementary particles unsustainable, devised the Einstein' followers first the wave mechanics, later promoted to quantummechanics. A mystical physics occurred in the virtual. Mr. Heisenberg sanctifyed to virtuals their limited existence, according to the model dressed/undressed and laws of conservation given to tails'; off course within the Heisenberg uncertaintyes. Real particles could arbitrarily short time to "produce" any tangible, but the device "elusive" virtualparticles and at the same time is also absorb (How does the mechanism of emission and absorption of virtuals that from quantum physicists you would not know to this day!). About sensible person asks: why? Why should real elementary particles of its own material substance produce and emit in all directions of space miriads of virtual photons every conceivable "mass categories"? Nobody yet not count how many photons such as weights, thus constantly produces a single electron to be just to replace with another remote elementary particle his slight impulse? What part of the emission spectrum "produced" photons "all scales" hit the remote particle? Even better: quantum physicists do not know who and with what mechanism returns the unimaginably vast mass of unused virtual photons back to the emitting particle.

This senseless antiphysicum caused Einstein' negation of existence real material structure of the physical vacuum. His adherence to the dogma of the reciprocity of relativistic effects, dilation and contraction or supremacy relative movement as the only objective category of movement. Socrates kvarton' hypothesis space transparently and fairly causally explains the physical nature of gravity without speculative, immeasurable folding geometry of space. Logically explains the so-called wave-particle' behavior of elementary particles without the necessary mathematical "crutch" of the wave function and its anticausality collapse. Illustrates the physical nature of the movement of all elementary particles and their mutual interactions without the help of mystical virtual of all kinds, as well as so-called decay and transform of elementary particles, without intermediate boson, without the (humanity) „birth" and annihilation. This pilot Socrates' discourse is now gradually complemented with vivid animations of several types of "decay", transmutation and interactions of "elementary" particles in separate video-attachments, (see a list of all files in the Socrates web http://qarton.sweb.cz)

 

In Socrates physics the four hypothetical material objects, protoelements never disappear nor is born; they only to change the form of their mutual coexistence. To describe the world Socrates needn't now yet several hundred various ways boxed and diversified so-called elementary particles, or multiple colors, redolence, and weirdness of quarks, nor need renormalisation endless physical values ​​resulting from the postulates of QED and GTR nor relativistic paradoxes of STR. The whole of kvartonphysics for a description of the "world" is sufficient to four invariant, i.e. "eternal", material protoelements with three types antipodity theirs physical properties are not transferable! All this applies in particular to protohysics, i.e. the material structure of space and elementary particles. Follow-physics of atomic nuclei, atoms, molecules, solid state physics and applied physics in all fields remain in effect unchanged! Socrates physics kvarton's universe yet does not have enough experimental information on the morphology or internal structure protoelements whose existence postulates. Pragmatically it can be assumed that they are material objects subnuclear size (R < 10^-18 m)

^{with direct material links to expected subkvarton' structure of space, which mediates interactions between neighboring protoelements and kvartons. About this substructure physical vacuum (subkvarton "ocean", or second basement), it is premature to speculate somehow without relevant new experimental data; will be need to be further "dive" into the depths of kvarton' "ocean".Perhaps one day, in advertently, contribute ongoing massive "cutting and splitting" kvarton' vacuum structure in ever bigger accelerators. Do they realize, that all those scientists experiments at these massive "blindfolded" is? I do not think that their naive "demolish" the structure of the vacuum to be launched chaindismantling of the entire universe, but yet never be too careful, right? What if that kind of non-binding, playing once someone started the Big Bang?}

 

 

 

Sequence of chapters

 

1Adjustable current misunderstood 2 Kvartons, kvartons, all kvartons

 

3 Ether versus kvartons, 4 paradoxical paradoxes

 

5 Kingdom of metaphysics -virtuals 6 Elementary particles is when ...

 

7 Where wears elem. the massparticles? 8 Crazy promiscuity elem. particles

 

9 Everyone wears a uniform ofcharge 10 Mysterious games on doubleslot

 

11 Adventures in Harvard water tower 12 What Cepheids tell us?

 

13 Public Secrets Core 14 Gravimony

 

15 Grated "remote" of photons

 

The entire set of texts can be found on Socrates pages http://qarton.sweb.cz

[somair]

Very interesting reading, but I lack any evidence for this hypothesis. Can you add? Without credible evidence, each hypothesis worthless.

[ydoaPs]

Dude, how many times are you going to copy/paste the same thing on here to spam us with your website?

[Salonis]

Very interesting reading, but I lack any evidence for this hypothesis. Can you add? Without credible evidence, each hypothesis worthless.

 

Evidence, evidence how gets them without stealing? It is best to read the whole treatise Socrates at the address( http://qarton.sweb.cz )There are evidences enough. The strongest was already mentioned in my 2. text, which was by recent innovation forum debased. But I can briefly repeat the essential: On the charging and discharging the capacitor between the plates appears the magnetic field . What causes this? . Socrates says that this causes the polarization movement of charges bound inside kvartons. Socrates say that the magnetic field is generated only around moving electric charges. Socrates says that the physical vacuum is fill up with an infinite set of primary objects of vacuum, called kvartony. Inside kvarton are mutually binded, among other things, one pair of electric charge carriers. When are on the capacitor plates an electric charges, the charges inside the kvartons are going to polarize and just this movement is the source of the magnetic field. It is logical. Academic physics, however, says that the magnetic field , caused the alteration of intensity electric field between the plates.

That's about as true as the sun sets in the evening because as it moves across the sky finds himself behind the western horizon. It statement is true only formally. Missing the objective cause of the sunset. It is the same with the existence of the electric field in the space. Socrates asks: what is the physical nature of the electric field? What will change in space when there appeared an electric field? How did the space physically changes ? Academic physics not give a clear answer. Just, we do not know!

There appears electric field because there were inserted the charges. How physical changes in the space around the charge arised? They do not know! Socrates claims that it caused the motion of electric charges inside kvartons. It is necessary to decide: The displacement current arises after changing mystical electric field of whose physical essence we know almost nothing, or at variable polarization of real objects that form the vacuum filler.

For teoretic physicist, Lee Smolin, is this clear.

Quotation :

"Just as the apparent smoothness of the surface of the water surface conceals the fact that matter is composed of discrete atoms, i the same smoothness of space probably isn't realistic. This smoothness arises as an approximation of something deeper that is composed of basic units ... Some approaches simply assume, that space is made up of discrete elements." How did I say: for Lee Smolins is it clear. is sufficient only to his discrete elements them give name. Socrates did so... and gave them inner structure -protoelements ("entrails").

 

Next time I write something about next evidence - essence of gravitation

[somair]

Thanks, but this is only an logical "proof". Experimental still missing.

[Salonis]

Thanks, but this is only an logical "proof". Experimental still missing.

 

You are guess superficially. Experimental evidence was many times measured as the magnetics field. Logic only confirms that there in the vacuum must be something tangible in move. Magnetic field only proves that there are couples of electric charges. This is just a bit of mosaic, in another bit you'll recognize that without existence Socrates' (Smolin') vacuum particles you can not construct, for example, the gravitational field.

[somair]

 

You are guess superficially. Experimental evidence was many times measured as the magnetics field. Logic only confirms that there in the vacuum must be something tangible in move. Magnetic field only proves that there are couples of electric charges. This is just a bit of mosaic, in another bit you'll recognize that without existence Socrates' (Smolin') vacuum particles you can not construct, for example, the gravitational field.

 

These are still only an indirect indication of the existence of your kvartons. Still, this is only one of the possible interpretations, you do not have an experiment that directly and clearly demonstrate the existence of kvartons?

[Salonis]

,Dear, all subnuclear particle physics is indicated indirectly, eg the "rarest" ultra shortly "living" particles are indicated only by their decays to known identifiable particles. But I will try to accommodate you

[Salonis]

Is perhaps understandable that the physical body, somehow affects the space in their immediate vicinity, somewhere on the physical interface, the atoms - intagible space. Right. But why is curved the space even at a considerable distance from this mass solid? It has been long rejected by the physics principle of instantaneous action at a distance. So what sort of physical mechanism curves the very remote areas? Classical physics do not knows! We must therefore assume that the curved area near the solids then somehow distorts space in very long distant. Then, however, the curvature geometry of space caused not only of mass of the body itself, but also this curved space itself, which is probably a secondary source of additional curvature i the outermost area. We know that the body's weight and its effect on the interface element - vacuum, we can even accept with a smile, but the empty space, which is according to Einstein's predicates for STR, intangible, should have exactly the same ability zakřivovat distant space as a solids! But even this antifyzikum physicists finally, belief Einstein's genius, accept.
But, gradually gave birth to quantum mechanics and its later extension, QED. There is a new problem: In Einstein gravity the body move together as a result of the alleged "invisible" space between curvature, while in QED the body (the elem. Particulates) "attract" due to the virtual exchange process, hence also invisible particles. Virtual particles emitted Elementar apparently freely flit between objects (particles) and pass between them momentum and kinetic mass. So, since the formulation of QED, we have two natures Gravity: curved space and restless virtuals. Well, it is said, it is better to have two natures than none. But which is the right one? If the gravitational interaction realized exchangeable gravitons, as predicted by QED, what would then be the required curved space between bodies?! That would be wise nature so incomprehensibly provided zakřivováním gravity space plus a virtual exchange. We do not want it after all these particles of matter too much?What physical mechanism bends the body geometry of space in your neighborhood? Unfortunately, this process has never been described. It just kind of curves!
And you have the opportunity of Hamlet's decide: either believe in the invisible processes in curved space or of exchanges the virtual and invisible spirits.Or you can say with Socrates: every matter is composed of elem. particles that are surrounded by excited mass field that extends from the source-vakant- to infinity (in theory). A cluster of such particles together creates the resulting cumulative material's field known as gravitational field. Because the mass of each particle of this cluster has spread in whole space, has all these particles its additive mass in whole array, like common gravitational field. Einstein's equations determine exactly for each point of space the mathematical function of curvature the metric tensor. Socrates simple equation provides for each point of space an numerical value of excitation of local kvarton.
It remains to describe the motion of bodies (particles) in such a common mass field which is the gravitational field. This section describes other Socrates's discourse on http://qarton.sweb.cz

There's one very importance completely neglected aspect: Let us start from Einstein's doctrine that the mass has the ability to change in his neighborhood geometry of space .. But, what happens with the curved geometry of the space when we removed the mass? Remains the space with a crooked geometry? We knows it can not stay! But yet wasn't anyone who explained how the empty space with a curved geometry, itself, "straightens" . What power in this empty space can straighten curved geometry? Perhaps antimatter? Awake! After the mystery with curved geometry of space around the material body, we still believe in mysterious spontaneous straightens geometry of empty space after removing the body. Isn't those mysterious too much?
In Socrates' gravitational field the kvartons simply return to their zero positions because have an internal structure of antipodal pairs of protoelements.

But more on that next time. Are you satisfied with this explanation of? I hope you will.

[hypervalent_iodine]

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Moderator Note

...Wow. You weren't happy that no one was responding to your thread, so you create a sock puppet account and talk to yourself? Do you really need SFN for that?

 

Please also stop with the preaching and pushing your website.

[Salonis]

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Moderator Note

...Wow. You weren't happy that no one was responding to your thread, so you create a sock puppet account and talk to yourself? Do you really need SFN for that?

 

Please also stop with the preaching and pushing your website.

 

 

Sorry, I did not know that on this sites, for speculations I must not present own ideas. I think on tumbling sacred truths serve section for Sciences. It's against the rules of SFN wanted to get acquainted with the speculative ideas i anglophone area?

 

Lee Smolin in his book The trouble with physics in the final part What comes next clearly admonishes: For further progress of physics will be necessary to adopt an idea of the basic structural elements such filler of space. But to you this saying nothing

[Salonis]

Yes, unfortunately it is an old truth: bearers of new hypotheses and unorthodox opinions never had it easy. In the Middle Ages often they pay the ultimate price for their courage and maladjustment. And sometimes them not protect they prominence. As an example, Jordano Bruno, Galileo Galileo, Nikolas Kopernik and many others .. And so it is also leads of contemporary theorist Lee Smolin. Although his forecasts for solving elementary questions of physics of vacuum it is need to confirm the existence of material fills, physicists ignore it and watchdogs on the forums them penalized. Thinking sometimes much hurt. Socrates a Greek monk from the island of Corfu hasn't it easy. His idea of the structure of the physical vacuum strutting far away from the established thinking. We can say that it goes directly against the established beliefs of physical celebrities. Yes, maintaining that space is filled with material objects is immoral, too heretical. A throat punishment necessary. Same as oppose physicists as Pound and Rebka that the mass of free photons in a gravitational field is constant and while changing the height are changes only weight of measuring devices. Likewise his view that the so called paradoxes arising from theses STR ¨ are artificially constructed and Socrates offers scheme of new experiments to prove it. From the mouth of established physicists unizono sounds: Do not touch our circles!

[swansont]

Bearers of wrong ideas don't have it easy, either; being treated harshly is not proof of unjust persecution.

 

Alas, to wear the mantle of Galileo it is not enough that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment, you must also be right. ~ Bob Park

[Salonis]

Bearers of wrong ideas don't have it easy, either; being treated harshly is not proof of unjust persecution.

 

Alas, to wear the mantle of Galileo it is not enough that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment, you must also be right. ~ Bob Park

 

 

All new ideas were wrong and heretical for the former high establishment of science !

Present isn't better

[swansont]

 

 

All new ideas were wrong and heretical for the former high establishment of science !

Present isn't better

Really? Relativity was wrong and heretical? Quantum mechanics?

 

Funny how the discussion goes to place blame on the establishment, rather than presenting evidence. You doth protest too much, methinks.

[Salonis]

Really? Relativity was wrong and heretical? Quantum mechanics?

 

Funny how the discussion goes to place blame on the establishment, rather than presenting evidence. You doth protest too much, methinks.

 

 

Moderator, Mr.Swansont, believe only at evidences. Formally, this is truly correct. But exist no evidence against the faith!

For Socrates and me the sliding current is clear evidence that in the space between the capacitor plates necessarily are in moving the electric charges, if there are around the magnetic effects . For classical physics does not. It believes that there is changing the electrostatic field which generates, this magnetic effects. What actually changes in this space? Of which physical substance is electric field? Clasic have not a serious answer, nor to seek it! Just believe in the existence of a field ..There is every logical argument helpless.

About that would be able very much to tell paleontologists. Creationist beliefs in existence of God, the Creator and of them he is adamant! No matter how tangible are evidences of evolution.

 

The same is with Socrates' interpretation of the phenomenon of interference particles on double slits. Classical physicist refuses logic notion of elementary particles such as microscopic symbiosis "core" and from him generate a macroscopic mass field. This macro field easily goes through both slits and interference of two new sources of mass field produces "channels" for the motion of the microscopic "core" to the display. It is Socrates's version.

Believers physicist rather accepts phantasmagoric R. Feynman interpretation of all possible trajectories of the particles through the double slits. R. Feynman defended the claim that on the way from the source to a given point on the screen each electron actually flying in every conceivable trajectory simultaneously.

Here are the Feynman's words: "the electron flies of the beautiful and orderly path through the left slit. Flies however disciplined and systematic path through the right slit, limp toward the left slit, but just before it directs it into the right slit wanders up and down, back and forth, and eventually leak out the left slit sets off on a long journey into the galaxy in the constellation Andromeda, goes back and flies trough the left slit to the screen ". Exists anything dumber?

And so orthodox physicist only believes. In order to maintain the pillars of physics he believes in Feynman’s peculiar hallucinations of all possible trajectories of the electron. As I say: there is no rational evidence against the faith, Mr Swansont.

[swansont]

Again, no actual evidence. (and, BTW, it's Dr. Swansont)

[ACG52]

there is no rational evidence against the faith, Mr Swansont.

 

 

Faith is belief without evidence.

 

There is no rational evidence against invisible blue unicorns being responsible for the universe's existance. (Those who believe the universe to be controlled by pink unicorns are heretics)

Edited January 3, 2013 by ACG52

[Salonis]

Again, no actual evidence. (and, BTW, it's Dr. Swansont)

 

 

Perhaps we can agree at least on the fact that the gap between knowledge and faith. I experienced physicist with instruments recognized that around the track the movement of electrical charge occurs a phenomenon called vortex magnetic field. According to his reaction devices he recognized that the relationship of the two phenomena are causally, ie nonrandom .. The same physicist but only believe that the displacement current is caused by the very existence of an electric field whose physical structure is not able to describe. A commonly used term "field" does not say anything about its material structure. However, a displacement current occurs only and only when within the space modifies the intensity of the hypothetical electric field. And what is the cause of changes in the intensity of the field? Definitely the spatial movement of charge generating the field. Because the elementary charge is constant. And we're back with the nature of the displacement current: there is only and only when in the space moving electric charges. The idea of the electric field is redundant! Amen.

I have no illusions that I would convince someone of the moderators and another weighted representatives of this forum. A mature person does not like to change his beliefs and habits. (An fan of Sparta never admits the football quality of Slavia ). Socrates publish here this opinion for those readers who do not have yet totally petrified their worldview. And are therefore yet able to guess unbiased context.

Is it forbidden?

[swansont]

Still waiting for evidence that your model works in some way that accepted theory fails. All I see is the standard sleight-of-hand combined with the Galileo gambit.

[Salonis]

Still waiting for evidence that your model works in some way that accepted theory fails. All I see is the standard sleight-of-hand combined with the Galileo gambit.

 

 

First of all it must be said that the current official theories on the principle SM can not fail. Since he inventing and working with a growing number of virtual and physical, elusive, mystical chimeras : quarks, gluons, higgsons, superheavy intermedials, dimensionless black hole. Therefore official physics goes in physmystics. So called elementary particles, before the astonished eyes of physicists, decay into "components", which evidently had not before the decay. Electrical charges between them transfers as venereal disease. Impossibility of separation and identification of individual quarks official physics "explains" a strange interaction: strength of their interaction increase with their distance. May be more antiphysicum, larger anticausality? Another "explanation"simply not in stock. The fractional charge of quarks produces entirely without blushing, probably in secret fourth dimension, a particle with unit charge (bosons W and Z).

(According to reports from official sources the process slips about as follows: ^-1/3 d-quark strips his litle vest with one third minus charge and add him a hidden dravers with two-thirds minus charge. This all dons his illegitimate birth Golem and he gains minus the unit charge. Himself d-quark after the difficult birth and mysterious stryptis becomes orthodox ^+2/3u-quark. Well, it's not cute personification behavior of quarks?).

When spontaneous neutron beta decay thus his conversion to the proton must d-quark in the conversion of the u-quark emit heavy boson W. It subsequently decay into an electron and a neutrino. But by the contact interaction of neutron with positron also is "born" proton with neutrino but without emission W boson! This is absolutely identical to the conversion of neutrons d-quark in the protons u-quark. In the first case, the "birth" W boson is essential, in the second it is banned? The qualified answer is obvious: QED is like a woman, wants to have its secrets.

If you expect a similar behavior kvartons of Socrates, so I have to disappoint you. These four antipodean elements of vacuum in this respect are very boring especially their total constancy of typological and charges. Imagine that these boring Stooges never entangled with anyone, not trade with them their charge uppers, still wearing the long-worn unit electric charge, to anyone not even for a moment lend. They are unbearably immortal, that never, under any circumstances, do not expire and therefore they need not born . Only at various social occasions they regroup them and form different configurations as a bases of bizarre "elementary" particles and makes it immeasurable childlike joy to physicists, because they bring him the Nobel Prize..

 

Protoels like building 'components' of kvartons completely, but logically and causally explain the nature of the displacement electric current, the interaction between the wearer's charges, the gravitational interaction without folding space, change the reactivity of the particles and macrofiles (objects) in response to changes in their weight. They explain the corpuscular and wave properties and thus their interference. Explain why do not exist nuclei with monoprotons and mononeutrons. Explain logicky decay and transmutation of particles and their masses without virtual pseudoparticles and other chimeras. Do you find it is a little?

 

But it is wonderful to tragicomic that many people persistently demand palpable evidence for other hypotheses, but in the case of Feynman's "solution" the behavior of electrons on the doubleslits, they with holy humility accept his theory of sum total over all trajectories, which try to "explain" the unexplainable - contemporary passage itself electron through both slits. Or that the electron with diameter (Re <10^-18 m) "knows" if both of slits ( l > 10^-8 m) are open or just one and accordingly he decides whether on the display will interference or not. Evidence there really is no need! All is clear.

[swansont]

Add the fallacy of argument from personal incredulity.

[uncool]

Skipping the misrepresentation of particle physics:

 

Except for all of the evidence that has been given over and over through the years. QED is, quite literally, one of the most exactly confirmed theories in all of science. You don't think of that as evidence?

=Uncool-

[Przemyslaw.Gruchala]

When spontaneous neutron beta decay thus his conversion to the proton must d-quark in the conversion of the u-quark emit heavy boson W. It subsequently decay into an electron and a neutrino. But by the contact interaction of neutron with positron also is "born" proton with neutrino but without emission W boson! This is absolutely identical to the conversion of neutrons d-quark in the protons u-quark. In the first case, the "birth" W boson is essential, in the second it is banned? The qualified answer is obvious: QED is like a woman, wants to have its secrets

 

 

If you would read mine theory it would be clear why this happens:

 

P 40/20 (example neutron-compatible composite particle, 0 electric charge) + P 5/1 (the lightest possible positron, +3 electric charge) = P 45/21

P 45/21 is unstable proton-compatible particle, electric charge +3 (see Stability Rule),

so it's decaying:

P 45/21 -> P 41/19 (proton-compatible stable particle) + P 4/2 (neutrino)

 

And there is no secret anymore..

 

(electric charge in Standard Model - divide above by 3)

Edited January 6, 2013 by Przemyslaw.Gruchala

[Cap'n Refsmmat]

Przemyslaw.Gruchala, please do not hijack threads with your own personal speculations. You have your own thread for it.