Romney mocked for comment about jet windows

[chilled_fluorine]

I believe your little pun says it all.

 

Says all of what? A little more detail would be appreciated.

 

@chilled_flourine

You've gone back to embedding your red replies in the quotes of others after you seemed to have figured out the proper tagging sequence. Do you realize that when we hit the Reply button on posts like that, NOTHING shows up? You're causing a lot of extra work for anyone who wants to reply methodically to the points you're making. Maybe I feel like it. You could just copy paste the text back in, that's what we did on the site I developed this habbit on. Admittedly, I don't get how I could respond methodically to different parts of a post, to be more relevant, instead of posting in a giant clump of text. Would you mind explaining in detail how to do this?

 

Regarding underpaid Chinese, I think you'll find they're paid just fine within the context of their own cost of living. They have a middle class that's as big as the entire US population. Their cost of living would be much higher if they had money to spend to warrant the production of more expensive, higher quality products. I don't think what you said is completely fair.

 

With regard to regulations, you're simultaneously arguing for relaxed regulation, smart regulation, and regulations that would allow for open-capable windows aboard commercial airliners. For a small government Republican, that's an awful lot of new laws you're going to have to pass and enforce on an already shaky industry just to keep Mitt from looking like he makes uninformed, emotion-based executive decisions.

I do not think the windows are a good idea. I think his idea was conceptually worthless, but not completely stupid, with modifications. No way would I ever want that new stack of laws to pass.

This is already a sore point with non-Republicans, this conflict of interest with a platform that wants small government, constitutional integrity and protection of personal rights, but also wants abortion denial, legislating morality through a combination of church and state, controlling women and increased federal spending for mega-corporate special interests.

 

 

Exactly. I'm pretty sure the airline industry has run some tests and conducted a few studies into the optimum systems, and don't really need any armchair politicians second-guessing their capabilities.

 

 

I have to admit that one of my biggest criticisms of Obama has been his insistence on appealing to all sides in his decisions, even when it became obvious that the Republicans simply wanted to stonewall anything that came from his desk, but I do see now that he was thinking more globally than I was. I really wanted him to focus on OUR problems, while the rest of the world was also feeling the repercussions of the tragedy that was Bush.

 

I still feel that a stronger US would be more able to help the rest of the world get back on its feet, and I also feel that Romney will be just more Bush, focused on strengthening the already strong top while the middle and bottom fall apart underneath. I keep picturing the classic movie denouement where the villains have pushed the self-destruct button, and as the former fortress shakes itself apart, the bad guys take off from the roof in their luxury helicopter with their hoarded wealth aboard and head off to their private island for some R&R.

 

 

I do hope you can realize the cyclical nature of things like bankruptcy, rigney. It takes a while for things to fall apart on a national scale the same as on a personal scale. People rarely lose their jobs and file immediately for bankruptcy. What were seeing here is the result of the Bush years (even though you may not want to hear it). Things ARE picking up now, what Obama has been able to do HAS been effective. Even with so much of Congress blocking his way just to make him look bad. The graphs are heading upwards, now is not the time to switch tactics by opening windows on the plane.

 

Edit to add: It's easy to see why the Republicans so desperately want to oust Obama. Eight years of Bush ended in disaster, and if eight years of a Democrat ends in a prosperous comeback (even if it is partly due to cyclical trends), I think the ultra-conservative trend in the Republican party (or possibly the party as a whole) is in real danger of being labeled toxic to worldwide prosperity.

[rigney]

Says all of what? A little more detail would be appreciated.

What else can I add? You made the statement about being a bankruptcy attorney, not I. And that's exactly where we stand at the moment, the country needs one. Talk about irony?

[chilled_fluorine]

What else can I add? You made the statement about being a bankruptcy attorney, not I. And that's exactly where we stand at the moment, the country needs one. Talk about irony?

 

The country needs a bankruptcy attorney? You mean, because of the national debt? It seems like you took the pun differently than I intended. Obama said that we're better off now than we were 4 years ago, and I disagree. Less people have jobs than ever. I was trying to imply that bankruptcy attorneys are getting a lot of work, because we're worse off than we were 4 years ago. I'm humourously disagreeing with potus. Would you care to explain your take on it? People of different generations tend to have different outlooks on humour.

[rigney]

The country needs a bankruptcy attorney? You mean, because of the national debt? It seems like you took the pun differently than I intended. Obama said that we're better off now than we were 4 years ago, and I disagree. Less people have jobs than ever. I was trying to imply that bankruptcy attorneys are getting a lot of work, because we're worse off than we were 4 years ago. I'm humourously disagreeing with potus. Would you care to explain your take on it? People of different generations tend to have different outlooks on humour.

I think we are way off the topic of dealing with how airplane windiows should be designed. But (me) being a right wing conservative, I simply found humor in you statement. Now, can we get back on subject? Edited September 28, 2012 by rigney

[chilled_fluorine]

I think we are way off the topic of dealing with how airplane windiows should be designed. But being a right wing conservative I simply found humor in you statement. Now, can we get back on subject?

 

A right wing conservative? I asked earlier if we could get back on topic, but it appears that people find it more entertaining when I am getting attacked by a horde of democrats. I'd like to see how one of you fares on a largely republican site, for instance, one discussing only religion.

[Ben Banana]

And what if the fire melts the mask?

Worse: What if Godzilla ate the engineers before they could design the airplane !? If there is fire and they manage to stop it from spreading, or they manage to put it out before they all die ... you'll still need to deal with smoke regardless of whether the fire is fatal.

 

By the way, why are people upset that some aren't still discussing the matter of airplane fires anymore? That's actually not the point of the topic. It's politics, specifically regarding careless and inappropriate judgements made by politicians such as Mitt Romney. I'm the one who's off topic!

Edited September 28, 2012 by Ben Bowen

[rigney]

A right wing conservative? I asked earlier if we could get back on topic, but it appears that people find it more entertaining when I am getting attacked by a horde of democrats. I'd like to see how one of you fares on a largely republican site, for instance, one discussing only religion.

Go to the religious section of the forum if you wish, but don't tempt me chilled one. I've probably been a conservative longer than you've been living.

[chilled_fluorine]

Worse: What if Godzilla ate the engineers before they could design the airplane !? If there is fire and they manage to stop it from spreading, or they manage to put it out before they all die ... you'll still need to deal with smoke regardless of whether the fire is fatal.

 

By the way, why are people upset that some aren't still discussing the matter of airplane fires anymore? That's actually not the point of the topic. It's politics, specifically regarding careless and inappropriate judgements made by politicians such as Mitt Romney. I'm the one who's off topic!

 

If you get off the plane, you can avoid this entirely. Don't most airplane fires occur during refueling? I really don't care if we get off topic or not. The original topic had just about as much said about it as could be.

[rigney]

Worse: What if Godzilla ate the engineers before they could design the airplane !? If there is fire and they manage to stop it from spreading, or they manage to put it out before they all die ... you'll still need to deal with smoke regardless of whether the fire is fatal.

 

By the way, why are people upset that some aren't still discussing the matter of airplane fires anymore? That's actually not the point of the topic. It's politics, specifically regarding careless and inappropriate judgements made by politicians such as Mitt Romney. I'm the one who's off topic!

Do you believe democrats have been on topic, or out and out lying these past two weeks concerning questions being asked about their Libyan faux-pas?

[swansont]

At some point in her young life I'm sure she will realize that putting her things on hangers will be more convenient, expedient and also retain their shape better. At eighty now and with an un-recanting and conservative mind, I can honestly rationalize why my clothing still remains wrinkled after all of these years.

Aye, there's the rub. You can articulate that you know that folded clothes will be wrinkled, but still prefer that method, but a child can't. You don't have that excuse, yet you act the same way. Why don't you even attempt to articulate your reasoning behind the political statements you make?

[rigney]

A right wing conservative? I asked earlier if we could get back on topic, but it appears that people find it more entertaining when I am getting attacked by a horde of democrats. I'd like to see how one of you fares on a largely republican site, for instance, one discussing only religion.

Sorry about that. What I meant was, "ME" being a right wing conservatrive. i did edit it to make it more readable. Now, let's get back to Romneys plane windows?

[swansont]

The country needs a bankruptcy attorney? You mean, because of the national debt? It seems like you took the pun differently than I intended. Obama said that we're better off now than we were 4 years ago, and I disagree. Less people have jobs than ever. I was trying to imply that bankruptcy attorneys are getting a lot of work, because we're worse off than we were 4 years ago. I'm humourously disagreeing with potus. Would you care to explain your take on it? People of different generations tend to have different outlooks on humour.

Even ignoring the fact that nobody could instantly turn the economy around, Obama has a net creation of private-sector jobs. Having job creation is better than job loss, so by that standard, the country is better off than it was four years ago. But only if you are going to discuss facts instead of rhetoric.

[chilled_fluorine]

Go to the religious section of the forum if you wish, but don't tempt me chilled one. I've probably been a conservative longer than you've been living.

 

Is your avatar Jesus? How was I tempting you? Right wing republican just isn't something you hear every day. How long have you been a conservative? I'm still pretty young, so I wouldn't doubt what you said.

[rigney]

Aye, there's the rub. You can articulate that you know that folded clothes will be wrinkled, but still prefer that method, but a child can't. You don't have that excuse, yet you act the same way. Why don't you even attempt to articulate your reasoning behind the political statements you make?

Well, I was really trying to relate the situation to that of my being a republican. But since all I seem to hear from the left is so hard to believe, I find it nearly impossible responding to my own ignorance. Edited September 28, 2012 by rigney

[chilled_fluorine]

Sorry about that. What I meant was, "ME" being a right wing conservatrive. i did edit it to make it more readable. Now, let's get back to Romneys plane windows?

 

I'm afraid I've lost you. Sorry.

 

Even ignoring the fact that nobody could instantly turn the economy around, Obama has a net creation of private-sector jobs. Having job creation is better than job loss, so by that standard, the country is better off than it was four years ago. But only if you are going to discuss facts instead of rhetoric.

 

Fact: more Americans are unemployed now than 4 years ago.

[rigney]

I'm afraid I've lost you. Sorry.

No problem! Just remember that I'm on your team.

 

 

 

Fact: more Americans are unemployed now than 4 years ago.

Edited September 28, 2012 by rigney

[chilled_fluorine]

You're on my team? Could you try to make some sense? Is there some pact between all the mods to try and confuse me?

[Phi for All]

You're on my team? Could you try to make some sense? Is there some pact between all the mods to try and confuse me?

No, the confusing pact is between the Republicans.

[A Tripolation]

Admittedly, I don't get how I could respond methodically to different parts of a post, to be more relevant, instead of posting in a giant clump of text. Would you mind explaining in detail how to do this?

 

So this is a quote. You already know how to do this, it seems.

 

What I usually do is hit the "Reply" button and then inject my own ending quote tags when I want to address a point. Like so:

 

(left bracket) quote (right bracket)

 

text I am addressing

 

(left bracket) /quote (right bracket)

 

It looks like this:

 

It's basically simple HTML tags. Make sense?

 

 

 

I asked earlier if we could get back on topic, but it appears that people find it more entertaining when I am getting attacked by a horde of democrats. I'd like to see how one of you fares on a largely republican site, for instance, one discussing only religion.

 

You're also being attacked by a moderately conservative theist. And I'd wager (aside from our European friends), that most of us here are moderates. I don't think many true liberals exist in the US.

Edited September 28, 2012 by A Tripolation

[ydoaPs]

So this is a quote. You already know how to do this, it seems.

 

What I usually do is hit the "Reply" button and then inject my own ending quote tags when I want to address a point. Like so:

 

(left bracket) quote (right bracket)

 

text I am addressing

 

(left bracket) /quote (right bracket)

 

It looks like this:

 

 

It's basically simple HTML tags. Make sense?

 

 

 

You're also being attacked by a moderately conservative theist. And I'd wager (aside from our European friends), that most of us here are moderates. I don't think many true liberals exist in the US.

 

 

There's also a tutorial that an unusually intelligent and handsome member made.

[rigney]

No, the confusing pact is between the Republicans.

Shame on you Phi! He already thinks that I'm a democrat, don't make it more confusing.

[chilled_fluorine]

So this is a quote. You already know how to do this, it seems.

 

What I usually do is hit the "Reply" button and then inject my own ending quote tags when I want to address a point. Like so:

 

(left bracket) quote (right bracket)

 

text I am addressing

 

(left bracket) /quote (right bracket)

 

It looks like this:

 

 

It's basically simple HTML tags. Make sense?

 

 

 

 

 

You're also being attacked by a moderately conservative theist. And I'd wager (aside from our European friends), that most of us here are moderates. I don't think many true liberals exist in the US.

 

Thanks. I didn't think HTML worked on this site.

 

There's also a tutorial that an unusually intelligent and handsome member made.

 

No offense, but that tutorial is one of the most boring things I've ever read.

 

Shame on you Phi! He already thinks that I'm a democrat, don't make it more confusing.

 

Huh? You're not a democrat?

[Phi for All]

So this is a quote. You already know how to do this, it seems.

 

What I usually do is hit the "Reply" button and then inject my own ending quote tags when I want to address a point. Like so:

 

(left bracket) quote (right bracket)

 

text I am addressing

 

(left bracket) /quote (right bracket)

When replying to individual sentences separately from the same poster, I like to highlight the sentence and use the Insert Quotation button up on the Post Toolbar (third button from the right). That automatically puts the quote tags around what you've highlighted.

 

 

You're also being attacked by a moderately conservative theist.

Her ideas are being attacked. Big difference.

 

And I'd wager (aside from our European friends), that most of us here are moderates. I don't think many true liberals exist in the US.

Not to single you out, Trip, but I'm starting to believe we're really harming ourselves with the whole liberal/conservative tag when we apply it to ourselves like a blanket. I'm really liberal about drug laws (even though ibuprofen is the only drug I use), but I'm pretty conservative when it comes to the clothes we let our kids wear. I'm liberal about education but I'm conservative about free markets (really conservative; I think we shouldn't be subsidizing oil, sugar and coal). I hate the fact that US prisons house 1 out of 4 prisoners on the planet (are we really that awful?), but I do want to take violent criminals off the street, yet I still think rehabilitation should be the goal. I think most people are a blend of stances, many overlapping on common ground, and the stereotypical labels just make the ground hard to see.

 

Shame on you Phi! He already thinks that I'm a democrat, don't make it more confusing.

Well, you think she's a he, and she thinks you're a mod. How confused are you now?

[Ben Banana]

I am registered as a pizza. I love being part of the pizza party! Thanks for inviting me, I'm glad I'm cool enough!

 

Thanks. I didn't think HTML worked on this site.

It's not HTML at all. It's called BB code. You use [] instead of <>

 

No offense, but that tutorial is one of the most boring things I've ever read.

Then you're obviously incapable of reading anything more intellectual... including the majority of material we discuss here.

Edited September 29, 2012 by Ben Bowen

[chilled_fluorine]

When replying to individual sentences separately from the same poster, I like to highlight the sentence and use the Insert Quotation button up on the Post Toolbar (third button from the right). That automatically puts the quote tags around what you've highlighted.

 

 

 

Her ideas are being attacked. Big difference.

 

 

Not to single you out, Trip, but I'm starting to believe we're really harming ourselves with the whole liberal/conservative tag when we apply it to ourselves like a blanket. I'm really liberal about drug laws (even though ibuprofen is the only drug I use), but I'm pretty conservative when it comes to the clothes we let our kids wear. I'm liberal about education but I'm conservative about free markets (really conservative; I think we shouldn't be subsidizing oil, sugar and coal). I hate the fact that US prisons house 1 out of 4 prisoners on the planet (are we really that awful?), but I do want to take violent criminals off the street, yet I still think rehabilitation should be the goal. I think most people are a blend of stances, many overlapping on common ground, and the stereotypical labels just make the ground hard to see.

 

 

Well, you think she's a he, and she thinks you're a mod. How confused are you now?

Phi, isn't it immature to call people she's? Or are you talking about someone else? I am a HE. I know he isn't a mod, I just suspected that he was conspiring with mods to confuse me. Maybe you're the one who's confused.

 

I am registered as a pizza. I love being part of the pizza party! Thanks for inviting me, I'm glad I'm cool enough!

 

 

It's not HTML at all. It's called BB code. You use [] instead of <>

 

 

Then you're obviously incapable of reading anything more intellectual... including the majority of material we discuss here.

 

I'm perfectly capable of reading intellectual things, I just think the guide used an awful lot of words to say not much at all. Short, and to the point is my style. I've never heard of bb code before, is the only difference what you said?