Brain drain in developing countries

[Mr Rayon]

What are peoples' opinions of international students leaving the developing world to study in the developed world and then staying there permanently?

 

This happens very often in Australia.

 

Many students come from China, Malaysia, Vietnam and many other countries to settle permanently in Australia/UK/USA/Europe.

 

What are your thoughts about people who do this?

 

Overall, is this a good thing?

 

And as the developing world develops a solid middle class, what is it that is stopping them from taking over?

 

Overall, is this a good thing?

 

Any thoughts???

[iNow]

You go where the opportunity is. If there is no opportunity where you are, then there's little you can do until you leave. Your question is too ill framed and ambiguous to offer you a much better answer than this.

[ecoli]

exactly what iNow said: good for whom? If the brilliant people are going to where there are jobs for them, then those people and the countries they move to definitely benefit. The countries they move away from... well that's less clear. If an engineer moves away and develops new tech that results in unlimited clean water for everyone: clear win for everyone. If the engineer develops a slightly better toothbrush... well idk.

[JohnStu]

a lot of international students stay because it has better environment. The lure of better environment often is treated as better job opportunity.

 

 

 

Some go entirely for the state benefits to be honest

[CharonY]

There is also the fact that studying/postdocing lasts for a few years, usually. People might get used to and subsequently get attached to their current environment. A kind of increased viscosity born from proximate familiarity, if you will. Out of convenience people may seek to avoid another change (i.e. back to their country of origin). This may even be the case if the work environment is not objectively better and I suspect that something similar is the reason why many people stay in an academic environment (despite worse job opportunities, for example).

[Arete]

 

This happens very often in Australia.

 

No it doesn't.

 

Having TA'ed at a number of Australian institutions, the vast majority of the full fee paying international undergraduate students are on nonimmigrant student visas - i.e. once the student has finished studying, they must leave the country.

 

A student staying legally after their course would be the exception, rather than the rule.

[Mr Rayon]

No it doesn't.

 

 

WRONG!

[Arete]

WRONG!

 

A foreign national studying in Australia requires a student visa. These visas do not allow you to stay after you complete your degree.

 

"When you receive your student visa, the government lets you in on basis of temporary entry for study with the understanding that you will leave upon completion of course and before the visa will expire."

http://australia.internationalstudent.com/study_australia/working/after-graduation.shtml

"This visa allows you to stay in Australia for the duration of your course."

http://www.immi.gov.au/students/students/573-0/eligibility-student.htm

"The effect of this visa condition is that, except in extremely limited circumstances, it will not be possible for you to remain in Australia beyond the date authorised by your visa."

http://www.immi.gov.au/students/visa-conditions-students.htm

 

Applying for residency in Australia is a completely separate process.

 

How exactly am I wrong?

[ralfy]

Given demand destruction and economic problems in OECD countries coupled with the opposite for BRIC and emerging markets, it might be reversed.

[whoamiz]

In my opinion, I wouldn't see it as a brain drain and why is that? We can say that they might be more comfortable in that country otherwise they will leave for another or just go back to their motherland.