Memry Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 fafalone, 1+1=2 .. in your reality. In mine, I can open up that + sign and climb in and zoom down to infinity and come back and resume the 1+1=2 reality. Just an example of what I mean. There is reality within the reality, or universes within universes. Memry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 I would like to see some references qouted or even that you saw some of this information on PBS. Maybe some statistics in People magazine. Where do you get your conclusions from. If it's from your head you should start with "I imagine" or "maybe" or "I think". That might be a start. Just food for thought. It would probably rile a lot less feathers. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 17, 2002 Author Share Posted July 17, 2002 Yes you are most probably correct Aman, I have numerous articles, research papers and actyal analytical reports. There is ample material on the net, and this topic has been well discussed on the ABC's Self Serve Science Forum. But as you can well imagine, this is not a topic people want to see, authorities do not want to acknowledge and govenments/law enforcers are terrified of even suggesting such a state of our people. I am afraid people will have to throw questions, and remain skeptical until the evidence for them to change their lifestyle becomes clear to them. Many people already know the skeleton in their closet, and would be reassured if they knew a reason for it, rather than considering themselves EVIL! Truth has a way of being validating itself.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 17, 2002 Author Share Posted July 17, 2002 Memry, yes you are entirely correct. Maths is in the eye of the beholder. DNA did not have to ask us for permission to use base 10, but the logic must remain maths! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 What journals have you published in? Please provide the proper citations so I may access them. If the government oppressed them, you may publish them on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzilla Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 He's been 'published' a few times - http://www.theage.com.au/breaking/2001/11/02/FFXHPZPTITC.html http://old.smh.com.au/ballot01/0111/03/ballot5.html http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/k2/stn-old/archive2002/posts/March/topic669100.shtm I haven't found anything he's actually published though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memry Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 Billzilla, if you think it necessary to link to posts from other forums to make a point, it might be a good idea if you supplied the name/names that 'YOU' posted under on those forums so you can be checked out as well. I think that is only fair, if you are going to pursue such activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 I can smear some bacon grease on my keyboard and my dog can get published right here. I can even get him is own publishing website as long as I can keep him interested in pressing keys. There are actual valid mathematical proofs that a logical mind can use to make arguments and without them the proposal is just "I think", "maybe", or "I guess" and I'm willing to listen. Up to this point, I've seen a lot more valid arguments by disciplined people in totally different directions than Zarkov backed up by logical thinking, a few analogies, and common sense. It's not the absolute to me. Sorry Zarkov but you should be willing to accept other ideas and not classify them as evil. That is what got the early Christians in trouble and now the Muslims. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzilla Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 I post under my real name, Bill Sherwood, most times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 18, 2002 Author Share Posted July 18, 2002 "Sorry Zarkov but you should be willing to accept other ideas and not classify them as evil." Hey just Aman, I am not censuring, I am being censured. Please read what has been posted, thanks > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 19, 2002 Author Share Posted July 19, 2002 I have been informed that I am unscientific. Goodbye < If you wish to follow then log onto the ABC's Self Serve Science Forum at http://www.abc.net.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memry Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Darn.. One day science will *transcend* itself .. and become *more* than Science. Zarkov, hope you can return here. 'Questions will lay the tracks'. - Wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 19, 2002 Author Share Posted July 19, 2002 Thanks for the vote of sanity, Memry > Don't forget, the most tolerant forum where real science is practiced http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memry Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 I think I like it here, Zarkov, thanks. And *real* can be very limiting, I think, in all things for it is a judgement of the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 20, 2002 Author Share Posted July 20, 2002 The discontinuity of the gist of this thread is due to censurship. Cooking utensils, and containers of food and drink have been, and still are, very important sources of contaminating toxic substances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 Do I know you Zarkov... that name seems rather familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 20, 2002 Author Share Posted July 20, 2002 Only if you hang out with trolls, Radicle E > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 The questions I've seen asked have been by people willing to listen and learn. I think the problems came with censuring the questioners. Then It did get a little ugly at times cus we have youngsters here impatient to learn. Everybody just slow down. this is a great place. I like this place cus I learn more from reading the questions then I do from the original postings. Thats the way it should be. It's in everybodies best interest to tolerate questions. See ya around Zarkov if yer willing to stick around. Just aman:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 20, 2002 Author Share Posted July 20, 2002 Cool, Aman, I understand > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memry Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 It is the questions that limit the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 20, 2002 Author Share Posted July 20, 2002 No Menry. When Man meets GOD and askes the final question, and God gives the answer... Man will scratch his head ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Having watched people slag Zark off across various forums, I can no longer stand by and watch without speaking up. This is a guy who thinks about things. He might not provide proofs, or formulae, or pretty diagrams, but personally I enjoy reading his posts. He's like a dinner guest who arrives with almost the whole meal - plenty of food for thought in his threads, even if it's not what we had in mind for the main course. To those people who keep trying to out manouver him, or make him feel small, or attempt to kerb his ideas by applying to them principles that are equally uncertain, I would like to say this: If you don't like it, don't read it. You don't have to complain - complaining is a choice you make, and it says more about you than it does about Zarkov. If you really can't stand his thoughts, then make yourself familiar with the 'Ignore' list and stop being such dreadful kill-joys. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I hate to see a creative mind being treated with such intolerance. 'Scientific method' is a dreadfully abused term on the web - personally I'd much rather see an environment where new ideas can be approached in a more constructive and nurturing fashion. I can't quite believe I posted that. Sayo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted July 21, 2002 Author Share Posted July 21, 2002 Sanity, one in a million, it is so hard to find in these times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 I like the way this is going:D ""Serious"" discussion rules when your and adult. Sense of humor inspires. Learning can be a fun experience both ways. Just for thought. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memry Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 I would also like to add that to label someone a Troll as per Zarkov's undername is a misuse of the administrator's powers without substantial evidence. I haven't seen anything on this board to necessitate such a 'labelling'. In my previous life my career was in social work. Often, it was the most troubled, and mentally disturbed person that gave me most insight. That is no reference to you, Zarkov, just an attempt to expand the boundaries here of what is acceptable. When this social stuff is sorted out energy will flow so much more easily weaving thru the Science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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