aman Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 A couple years back we had record cold and monster ice storms. It all balences aout. But yes It sucks. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 15, 2002 Author Share Posted August 15, 2002 Aman, I remember those, the ups are really up and the downs i temp are really down. What I have found is that we measure temperature incorrectly. If we measured water temperature ( the temp water in a closed contained gets to if left in the sun) it would be obvious what the radiation temperatures are that affect us. No cloud in Tassie = 70 C even on a air temp day of 10 C cloud = air temp could be -3 to 12 C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Excuse me while I laugh hysterically at your blatant disregard for basic concepts, and also ones just a little bit above common sense... such as the relation of surface area and volume, and how these influence temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 16, 2002 Author Share Posted August 16, 2002 You are excused, Fafalone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 It's true Zarkov that the suns energy does not penetrate very deep into the oceans. The volume stores the massive temperature we depend on. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 17, 2002 Author Share Posted August 17, 2002 That's right Amann. I think if we changed the way we measure temperature, ie used what I call "water temperature" to report conditions (instead of air temperature) we would understand more clearly the reasons why water evaporates or not at the same air temperature, and why we feel hot or why it gets cold all of a sudden. This way of reporting temperature for humans (and LIFE) is more personal for us, since we are water creatures, we are not air creatures! Love your party!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Even ice has vapor pressure exposed to the atmosphere but cold air cannot hold as much moisture so the air must move to keep putting moisture in the atmosphere. I don't see the cycle affected by oil except that if oil capped the water it would aalso capture heat and evaporate water so The cycle would still be at an equilibrium. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 18, 2002 Author Share Posted August 18, 2002 OIl on water slows evaporation ! That sounds like wishful thinking there Aman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogslayer Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Originally posted by Zarkov That's right Amann. I think if we changed the way we measure temperature, ie used what I call "water temperature" to report conditions (instead of air temperature) we would understand more clearly the reasons why water evaporates or not at the same air temperature, and why we feel hot or why it gets cold all of a sudden. This way of reporting temperature for humans (and LIFE) is more personal for us, since we are water creatures, we are not air creatures! Love your party!! :) Hate to burst your bubble, but that is exactly how global temps are measured; a bucket of water, not the air. There are other methods, and all are correlated (like troposphere radiation, etc) and that is where the disputes arise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 19, 2002 Author Share Posted August 19, 2002 Why does that burst my bubble, it is a good idea! The temperatures that are published are air temperatures, and air temperature by itself has little influence on water evaporation. Can you find a link to that Hogslayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 20, 2002 Author Share Posted August 20, 2002 HONG KONG, China - CNN- Flooding that has claimed an estimated 1,800 lives across Asia is worsening, with forecasters predicting conditions to deteriorate further over the next few days. New deaths have been reported in Vietnam and Nepal in recent days, and more rain is forecast, officials said. Rivers in Bangladesh's Brahmaputra River basin, fed by rains and floodwaters from neighboring India, continued to rise, the Flood Forecasting and Warning Center said in Dhaka. Large parts of South Asia have been devastated by monsoonal flooding over the past two months, while low-lying regions in Thailand, Vietnam and China have also been hard hit. ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) -- Wildfires driven by warm, dry weather in May and August, have burned more than 2 million acres (800,000 hectares) of forest in Alaska this summer, almost three times the annual average, state officials said on Monday. The list of extreme weather this year alnoe is extreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Tornado Alley in the US had the least amount of tornados ever in this season according to the records. It ain't all bad Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 20, 2002 Author Share Posted August 20, 2002 That's fantastic, a bright light, but it certainly has been a wild summer in the Northern Hemisphere. Down here in the South, we may have to get prepared, there is drought in both Tasmania and and Australia. Oh well count our blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Nasty weather happens everywhere over a hundred years. Maybe we hastened it a little but it's normal. I don't think the Earth is in Her death throws. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenel Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Stop complaining....Chicago has two seasons, which're respectively dubbed "Cold" and "Why do I still live here". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 21, 2002 Author Share Posted August 21, 2002 Life is GOOD! Definately no complaints, Tasmania's climate is rapidly becomming the best climate in the world ! LG :) But oooooh I wouldn't like to live in some places ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 I hear China has a whole lake rising so high it will displace maybe millions. Maybe they should free thier people. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 22, 2002 Author Share Posted August 22, 2002 Originally posted by aman I hear China has a whole lake rising so high it will displace maybe millions. Maybe they should free thier people. Just aman Or give them all enought paper to make origami boats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 origami is Japanese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 First I ought to learn to spell. Thanks for being patient Maybe all the rains will wash that damned brown cloud of crap out of the sky over Asia. It looks like God looked down and saw what was going on and wiped his butt with their sky. The same with Los Angeles back in the '60s and '70s. Things could be so much better with a few more good people. Maybe a lot more. The pollution is from too many people. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 27, 2002 Author Share Posted August 27, 2002 Oh, it is really interesting living in this time in history. There is never a dull moment, and hopefully all our worries are only concerns, and the Good will prevail and we all the peoples of the world will get it together, and clean up the planet! Crosses fingers and legs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 There was a posting that the Antarctic is growing while the Arctic gets smaller. I think you better watch out and buy some warm clothes down there Zarkov. :toilet: Just aman:cool2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 29, 2002 Author Share Posted August 29, 2002 Hey Cobbber, Tassie weather is becomming the best in the world, the four seasons, warm summer, warm winter, just right. The Antartic is calving ice berges, like really big ones, I will see if I can find the sizes, but over the last immediate years, there has been something like 25, all state size, and getting bigger each time!!! The Artic is evaporating directly, creating floods. The northern hemisphere is really copping it, and down south, there is only Australia that has both stable government and stable climate. AND I am here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 :D I'm glad Australia has two things to be grateful for. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 31, 2002 Author Share Posted August 31, 2002 Guess what we are the dirty THREE Canada, Australia and the USA !!! What will the world do if it is the layer of oil that is causing the chaos!!! Asia, Europe etc all use massive numbers of cars!! Oh, industry has it's fault, but if it's not "greenhouse gases" then there has to be a whole rethink ! Just a thought, just Aman !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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