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here my invention in itransportation , its coppyrighted, a ball of 88 kg can be lifted to 880 meters and will be accelerated in an incline of 880 km length to 88 m/s speed in 8.8 sec , the ball will go down with initial speed of 88 m/s and will increase in speed across the 880 km until ground due to gravity acceleration until speed of 141 m/s when reaches ground , it will spend 7500 seconds , final speed is 141 m/s and distance cut is 880 km , the result speed can be converted back to energy , the converted energy is equal to the energy of lifting the ball and accelerating it , therefore the system will use no energy except for losses , another incline can be installed the back way or forward to cut another 880 km and until finishes a full loop around earth until start point without spending energy because each time energy used for lifting and acceleration will be retaken from the ball , but in reality losses and convertion effeciency will make losses , a system can be built around earth with one incline but needs ideal system or accurate system practically or smaller inclines can be built like 88 meters height and 8800 meter length and making 100 inclines will make 880 km distance , 88 kg ball may take energy not more than 8.8 kw to lift it to 88 meters in a short time and some energy for acceleration and will cut 8800 meters in a short time and all energy will go back at end of path , also the final speed can be used to rise forward to another incline with acute angle upward and some more energy can be added to reach up and accelerate again , without need for energy conversion and reuse , so each 8.8 km ended the ball will go up again using its own speed no need to lift and too much little energy added to complete its way up and accelerate again because the ball stored the whole given energy to it of lifting and of acceleration , a ball can be replaced by a buss or a car or a bike , so a biker will accelerate or add some energy when he goes back up and accelerate alittle , so a biker will spend no effort to travel from china to europe in a high speed he only will use stairs in china and he will reach europe with spending no energy idealy but in life he will spend a little of energy , this system can be used in generating electrisity too .

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16 minutes ago, newman.orion said:

here my invention in itransportation , its coppyrighted, a ball of 88 kg can be lifted to 880 meters and will be accelerated in an incline of 880 km length to 88 m/s speed in 8.8 sec , the ball will go down with initial speed of 88 m/s and will increase in speed across the 880 km until ground due to gravity acceleration until speed of 141 m/s when reaches ground , it will spend 7500 seconds , final speed is 141 m/s and distance cut is 880 km , the result speed can be converted back to energy , the converted energy is equal to the energy of lifting the ball and accelerating it , therefore the system will use no energy except for losses , another incline can be installed the back way or forward to cut another 880 km and until finishes a full loop around earth until start point without spending energy because each time energy used for lifting and acceleration will be retaken from the ball , but in reality losses and convertion effeciency will make losses , a system can be built around earth with one incline but needs ideal system or accurate system practically or smaller inclines can be built like 88 meters height and 8800 meter length and making 100 inclines will make 880 km distance , 88 kg ball may take energy not more than 8.8 kw to lift it to 88 meters in a short time and some energy for acceleration and will cut 8800 meters in a short time and all energy will go back at end of path , also the final speed can be used to rise forward to another incline with acute angle upward and some more energy can be added to reach up and accelerate again , without need for energy conversion and reuse , so each 8.8 km ended the ball will go up again using its own speed no need to lift and too much little energy added to complete its way up and accelerate again because the ball stored the whole given energy to it of lifting and of acceleration , a ball can be replaced by a buss or a car or a bike , so a biker will accelerate or add some energy when he goes back up and accelerate alittle , so a biker will spend no effort to travel from china to europe in a high speed he only will use stairs in china and he will reach europe with spending no energy idealy but in life he will spend a little of energy , this system can be used in generating electrisity too .

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You cannot copyright an idea, only a creative work, i.e. an expression of the idea.

I’d like to know if there’s any physics involved with these numbers (e.g. why 88 kg or 880 m?)

accelerated … to 88 m/s speed in 8.8 sec

v=at which means a = v/t

88 m/s / 8.8s = 10 m/s^2

How do you achieve this acceleration when gravity in freefall can only supply 9.8 m/s^2?

In addition to this unphysical claim, the losses you are only mentioning in passing are everything here

this system can be used in generating electrisity too

No, not really

5 hours ago, newman.orion said:

his system can be used in generating electrisity too

Learn how to spell ( or to use the spell-checker ) before you try to change the world with an endless supply of free energy.

8 hours ago, newman.orion said:

here my invention in itransportation , its coppyrighted, a ball of 88 kg can be lifted to 880 meters and will be accelerated in an incline of 880 km length to 88 m/s speed in 8.8 sec , the ball will go down with initial speed of 88 m/s and will increase in speed across the 880 km until ground due to gravity acceleration until speed of 141 m/s when reaches ground , it will spend 7500 seconds , final speed is 141 m/s and distance cut is 880 km , the result speed can be converted back to energy , the converted energy is equal to the energy of lifting the ball and accelerating it , therefore the system will use no energy except for losses , another incline can be installed the back way or forward to cut another 880 km and until finishes a full loop around earth until start point without spending energy because each time energy used for lifting and acceleration will be retaken from the ball , but in reality losses and convertion effeciency will make losses , a system can be built around earth with one incline but needs ideal system or accurate system practically or smaller inclines can be built like 88 meters height and 8800 meter length and making 100 inclines will make 880 km distance , 88 kg ball may take energy not more than 8.8 kw to lift it to 88 meters in a short time and some energy for acceleration and will cut 8800 meters in a short time and all energy will go back at end of path , also the final speed can be used to rise forward to another incline with acute angle upward and some more energy can be added to reach up and accelerate again , without need for energy conversion and reuse , so each 8.8 km ended the ball will go up again using its own speed no need to lift and too much little energy added to complete its way up and accelerate again because the ball stored the whole given energy to it of lifting and of acceleration , a ball can be replaced by a buss or a car or a bike , so a biker will accelerate or add some energy when he goes back up and accelerate alittle , so a biker will spend no effort to travel from china to europe in a high speed he only will use stairs in china and he will reach europe with spending no energy idealy but in life he will spend a little of energy , this system can be used in generating electrisity too .

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Kinda like pushing a ball down these steps...

M C Escher Staircase - Mc Escher Drawings - HDFG

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I will answer one by one

First , about the numbers 88 , 8.8 ... They are used by me because they are from quran and they have medical purposes and it has relationship to time travel i found that across day but im not specialized in that science i left it but i used to use those numbers with other numbers like 53 , 32 , 65 , 154 , 238 ....

And why i had acceleration to 88 m/s whilest gravity gives only 10 m/s because i accelerated the ball or the bike the ball was not moving and i gave it energy to move in 8.8 seconds it reached 88 m/s and due to gravity the ball will increase in speed until ground , we have lifting , acceleration and gravity acceleration .

Losses , losses will happen when we lift the ball for example we will need 8.8 kw in 10 seconds then we may spend 10 kw in reality to do that , and losses in the friction , but the ball will accelerate and gain more speed and we will not spend any energy with the lifting and acceleration and the ball will move the 880 km and reach the ground and will have the energy given to it , so final speed is 141 m/s , this speed will allow the ball to go up for a way of 238 meters length until 88 meters height it will be like a rocket and go up in a fast way , losses arent alot because we will not lose 90% of energy to lift a ball to 88 meters niether we will lose alot the way down , besides our total spent energy wont exceed 16.1 kw to lift and accelerate the ball and the ball will end journey with at least 8.8 kw also this is the total energy to move aball across 880 km and it will be regained not spent and only losses are for friction and lifting , so we will spend 16.3 kw to move a ball for at least 163 km and this is a distance between two big cities so each passenger in the car will spend 16.3 kw in 10 seconds to travel from a city to another and this amount of energy isnt enough to make a cup of tea 16.3 kw in 10 seconds is only enough to lit a fire in a camp , and this energy will be used for the buss or car to take it up again and its not required to go up again because its not an energy at all to spend 16.3 kw to travel from city to another .

2 hours ago, npts2020 said:

يشبه الأمر إلى حد ما دفع كرة أسفل هذه الدرجات...

Hahaha no they dont because we have only a single incline so energy up the incline is equal to the energy down the incline and energy down the incline will be used to go up again and we will add some energy due to losses , so it is like a battery that decays fast and you need to recharge it every 7500 seconds to reach crom 70% to 100% so the car will go up again until 70% of the way or reach up and lose 50% of acceleration speed but you need to add 50% of acceleration speed again to go back in two hours home .

3 hours ago, npts2020 said:

Kinda like pushing a ball down these steps...

Love it.

+1

5 hours ago, newman.orion said:

And why i had acceleration to 88 m/s whilest gravity gives only 10 m/s because i accelerated the ball or the bike the ball was not moving and i gave it energy to move in 8.8 seconds it reached 88 m/s and due to gravity the ball will increase in speed until ground , we have lifting , acceleration and gravity acceleration .

If you accelerate the ball, that’s added energy (work) but the original premise was that there is no added energy.

You would be better served by studying physics for physics problems. Religious texts are not particularly useful in this regard, as they are not constrained by the laws of nature

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8 minutes ago, swansont said:

إذا قمت بتسريع الكرة، فهذه طاقة إضافية (شغل)، لكن الفرضية الأصلية كانت أنه لا توجد طاقة إضافية.

سيكون من الأفضل لك دراسة الفيزياء لحل مسائلها. أما النصوص الدينية فليست مفيدة في هذا الصدد، لأنها لا تخضع لقوانين الطبيعة.

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9 minutes ago, swansont said:

إذا قمت بتسريع الكرة، فهذه طاقة إضافية (شغل)، لكن الفرضية الأصلية كانت أنه لا توجد طاقة إضافية.

سيكون من الأفضل لك دراسة الفيزياء لحل مسائلها. أما النصوص الدينية فليست مفيدة في هذا الصدد، لأنها لا تخضع لقوانين الطبيعة.

We gave the ball energy and in the end of the trip we took back the energy , ideally we spent no energy because we charged the battery and took back our charges .

But with losses we won't have 100% given energy we will be lucky to have 53% .

I'm assuming that's Arabic ...

It's a good thing your cultural forbears found a large supply of fossil fuel/oil.
Otherwise, they would be in dire straits if they had to rely on your energy source.

As Swansont suggested ... learn some Physics.

2 hours ago, newman.orion said:

We gave the ball energy and in the end of the trip we took back the energy , ideally we spent no energy because we charged the battery and took back our charges .

But with losses we won't have 100% given energy we will be lucky to have 53% .

So you admit you can’t, in fact, extract surplus energy (generate electricity) from this, as you claimed

13 hours ago, newman.orion said:

Hahaha no they dont because we have only a single incline so energy up the incline is equal to the energy down the incline and energy down the incline will be used to go up again and we will add some energy due to losses , so it is like a battery that decays fast and you need to recharge it every 7500 seconds to reach crom 70% to 100% so the car will go up again until 70% of the way or reach up and lose 50% of acceleration speed but you need to add 50% of acceleration speed again to go back in two hours home .

That's the whole point, though, you have to keep adding energy and if you do the calculations for all of it using truly measured numbers, the amount added will end up being more than you get out at the end. Don't forget in the calculations you have to account for energy used to get the ball to the top of the incline to begin with.

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8 hours ago, MigL said:

8 hours ago, swansont said:

إذن أنت تقر بأنك لا تستطيع، في الواقع، استخراج طاقة فائضة (توليد كهرباء) من هذا، كما زعمت.

I will spend low energy to travel around earth , 880 km *31 may be the distance around earth using only 1630 kw in 88 seconds , each time I assume we use the previous speed to go up the new incline therefore total used energy won't reach 238 kw , in 88 seconds , energy to run 9 homes for 88 seconds or to run one home for 9 minutes to travel around earth and go back to start point , in only 63 hours , you can spend more energy may be 9x to make motion happens in 880 meters per second to go around earth in 6.3 hours only . but you won't see nothing you will go 2.8x sound speed and will explode every thing in the way unless the car will move in vacuum glass enables you to see life out side and protect from air resistance .....

4 hours ago, npts2020 said:

هذا هو لبّ الموضوع، إذ عليك الاستمرار في إضافة الطاقة، وإذا أجريت الحسابات باستخدام أرقام دقيقة، ستكون كمية الطاقة المضافة أكبر من الطاقة الناتجة. ولا تنسَ في حساباتك احتساب الطاقة المستخدمة لرفع الكرة إلى أعلى المنحدر في البداية.

Yes I will use energy to run every thing but in the end the ball will move by the speed of the whole given energy when it reaches ground , so we have zero energy spent ideally except for losses , I will use piezoelectric ground from type of ceramic to generate electricity or I will use piezoelectric ball it will move by 88 meters per second or I will make it 88 cm per second because frequency may not matter in generation , energy will be for 720,000 seconds for 100x time + the ball speed in the end of the way .

13 hours ago, newman.orion said:

  22 hours ago, MigL said:

I said nothing ???

14 hours ago, newman.orion said:

I will spend low energy to travel around earth , 880 km *31 may be the distance around earth using only 1630 kw in 88 seconds , each time I assume we use the previous speed to go up the new incline therefore total used energy won't reach 238 kw , in 88 seconds , energy to run 9 homes for 88 seconds or to run one home for 9 minutes to travel around earth and go back to start point , in only 63 hours , you can spend more energy may be 9x to make motion happens in 880 meters per second to go around earth in 6.3 hours only . but you won't see nothing you will go 2.8x sound speed and will explode every thing in the way unless the car will move in vacuum glass enables you to see life out side and protect from air resistance .....

Why should anyone believe your numbers? You’ve given nothing to indicate that these are based on credible calculations.

14 hours ago, newman.orion said:

Yes I will use energy to run every thing but in the end the ball will move by the speed of the whole given energy when it reaches ground , so we have zero energy spent ideally except for losses , I will use piezoelectric ground from type of ceramic to generate electricity or I will use piezoelectric ball it will move by 88 meters per second or I will make it 88 cm per second because frequency may not matter in generation , energy will be for 720,000 seconds for 100x time + the ball speed in the end of the way .

To begin with, speed is only a part of all of the potential energy of an object at any given time. What is the terminal velocity of your ball for a given incline? You need to know this in order to calculate how much energy you will need to add to get it up to and maintain your desired speed of 88 mps. Another question is what is generating the piezoelectric effect? If it is your ball, that will significantly increase the amount of energy required to maintain speed. The final point is, now that you have your ball at the end of this contraption, how much energy is required to put it back to the top?

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system will work for very distant places like 2000 km by time a car will spend alot of energy to keep on speed but here the car will not spend energy but for initial acceleration , if we used smooth way like glass then from 8.8 meters height the car can be accelerated to 88 meters per seconds to cut 88 km with or for 238 km but with normal streets power required to pass friction will limit way length and i guess a glass rail way made from 8 rail way beams sothat the train can have instead if 2 wheels on the railway it will have 8 wheels on 8 railways sothat the glass can bear the train or using limited width way for a train on alot of wheels and the train must be on this way only then from 8.8 meters height the train can travel hundreds of kilometers without spending energy .

1 hour ago, newman.orion said:

system will work for very distant places like 2000 km by time a car will spend alot of energy to keep on speed but here the car will not spend energy but for initial acceleration , if we used smooth way like glass then from 8.8 meters height the car can be accelerated to 88 meters per seconds to cut 88 km with or for 238 km but with normal streets power required to pass friction will limit way length and i guess a glass rail way made from 8 rail way beams sothat the train can have instead if 2 wheels on the railway it will have 8 wheels on 8 railways sothat the glass can bear the train or using limited width way for a train on alot of wheels and the train must be on this way only then from 8.8 meters height the train can travel hundreds of kilometers without spending energy .

Once you put realistic numbers in the formulae for how much energy is required to get any object up to speed and maintain it, you will find you are using more energy to do so than you gain from having done it. If there were zero losses from friction, wind resistance, etc. you could break even but that is not the universe we live in...

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