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As an alternative Human Venture for Survival of Earth in the face of demise of Solar System we can think of :

Migrating our Earth from its present Gravitational orbit to move it to a point on Space to continue Earth’s and Our Survival

Advance Preparation can be made but Final Move should only be made if it is Mandatory for Survival

We can think of fitting our Nuclear Powered Rockets to propel or a Structure of Powerful Drones powered by Nuclear Energy which can enable Earth to Fly through Space in a Controlled way !

Humanity has to work together !!

19 hours ago, Commander said:

As an alternative Human Venture for Survival of Earth in the face of demise of Solar System we can think of :

Migrating our Earth from its present Gravitational orbit to move it to a point on Space to continue Earth’s and Our Survival

Advance Preparation can be made but Final Move should only be made if it is Mandatory for Survival

We can think of fitting our Nuclear Powered Rockets to propel or a Structure of Powerful Drones powered by Nuclear Energy which can enable Earth to Fly through Space in a Controlled way !

Humanity has to work together !!

Seems to me, the likelihood is that solving whatever problem is necessitating a move will be far easier than actually moving the planet, which may also have unanticipated consequences.

21 hours ago, Commander said:

As an alternative Human Venture for Survival of Earth in the face of demise of Solar System we can think of :

Migrating our Earth from its present Gravitational orbit to move it to a point on Space to continue Earth’s and Our Survival

Advance Preparation can be made but Final Move should only be made if it is Mandatory for Survival

We can think of fitting our Nuclear Powered Rockets to propel or a Structure of Powerful Drones powered by Nuclear Energy which can enable Earth to Fly through Space in a Controlled way !

Humanity has to work together !!

I think a rudimentary analysis would show the incredible difficulty of moving a mass of 6 x 10^24 kg out of its orbit to anywhere else local, much less a star that’s light-years away. We can get payloads of tens of thousands of kg away from earth. Invoking nuclear rockets doesn’t address the issue in any meaningful way. Proposing we do it by magic would be only slightly less rigorous.

There is no urgency; the problem (if species and planets being 'mortal' is a problem) is so far in the future that attempts to address it now seem unlikely to have lasting significance. Surviving on Earth until then seems to be single the most important thing we can do to give humanity a long future and more than challenging enough to occupy our future 'building' efforts.

What humans can do in the face of imminent extinction won't include moving the planet; SF may feature imagination unbounded but reality is a lot more constrained. Given rockets moving between inner solar system to outer solar system typically require more fuel/reaction mass than payload supplying more than an Earth mass of fuel seems insurmountable.

Space habitats built out of asteroid/comet resources that do exist in great abundance - far easier to move (and can be designed for it) - seem a more credible 'life beyond Earth' scenario. And even that is only likely as an emergent outcome of large scale, long running profitable economic activities in space.

Planned colonies/societies/economies in extreme conditions with 'lead us to immortality in the promised land' motivations don't inspire me or fill me with confidence.

On 10/21/2025 at 4:59 AM, Commander said:

Migrating our Earth from its present Gravitational orbit to move it to a point on Space to continue Earth’s and Our Survival

Spindizzy ?

James Blish SF stories

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On 10/22/2025 at 5:17 AM, npts2020 said:

Seems to me, the likelihood is that solving whatever problem is necessitating a move will be far easier than actually moving the planet, which may also have unanticipated consequences.

True

My suggestion is at the end od all your improvements

On 10/22/2025 at 7:39 AM, swansont said:

I think a rudimentary analysis would show the incredible difficulty of moving a mass of 6 x 10^24 kg out of its orbit to anywhere else local, much less a star that’s light-years away. We can get payloads of tens of thousands of kg away from earth. Invoking nuclear rockets doesn’t address the issue in any meaningful way. Proposing we do it by magic would be only slightly less rigorous.

You might be right

My assumption is the nuclear power if channelised right may do the trick

Getting enough Energy by transforming Mass by E = MC^2 Equation

If NASA can send a Probe to Pluto and Communicate with it and guide it we need to build on such Technology

Also once a Speed is gained use of acceleration and force is needed only to alter the direction

As my suggestion is asking

We really don't know at what Inherent Velocity we are all [every particle , substance and the whole planet with all its life forms] hurtling through Space [the Empty and Unlimited Space]

Perhaps this Momentum is what is Creating the Illusion of Mass which in turn forms into Particles Atoms Molecules Structures and Substances Planets Stars and Galaxies all Created by the Opposite force called Gravity !

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5 hours ago, Commander said:

You might be right

I’m definitely right.

5 hours ago, Commander said:

My assumption is the nuclear power if channelised right may do the trick

Getting enough Energy by transforming Mass by E = MC^2 Equation

It’s a matter of momentum, too, maybe even more than energy. Traditional rockets have to expel mass. Photons are possible, but less efficient by a huge factor

5 hours ago, Commander said:

If NASA can send a Probe to Pluto and Communicate with it and guide it we need to build on such Technology

Also once a Speed is gained use of acceleration and force is needed only to alter the direction

Launching a 500 kg probe is one thing. Launching the earth is quite another.

“once speed is gained” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here

5 hours ago, Commander said:

As my suggestion is asking

We really don't know at what Inherent Velocity we are all [every particle , substance and the whole planet with all its life forms] hurtling through Space [the Empty and Unlimited Space]

There is no inherent velocity. We do know that we’re gravitationally bound to the sun, so we know how much kinetic energy we have to add to escape the solar system.

5 hours ago, Commander said:

Perhaps this Momentum is what is Creating the Illusion of Mass which in turn forms into Particles Atoms Molecules Structures and Substances Planets Stars and Galaxies all Created by the Opposite force called Gravity !

Or perhaps you need to learn some physics if you want to discuss this, as opposed to ignorantly babbling about it.

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