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They certainly have come a long way and deserve respect and admiration for such efforts


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Three Chinese astronauts return to Earth after six months in space

Three Chinese astronauts returned to Earth on Saturday after 183 days in space, ending China's longest crewed mission as it continues its quest to become a major space power.

The Shenzhou-13 spacecraft was the latest mission in Beijing's drive to rival the United States, after landing a rover on Mars and sending probes to the Moon.

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I read the article, and was certainly amazed and respectful of how advanced China is now in its space-faring efforts. Then after reading, "But under Chinese President Xi Jinping, the country's plans for its heavily-promoted "space dream" have been put into overdrive" I was slightly cynical and wondered at what expense, and the thought of poverty in China. But if the following is factual and valid, it appears they have conquered poverty also.....https://www.brookings.edu/blog/future-development/2021/09/24/whats-next-for-poverty-reduction-policies-in-china/  "Earlier this year China’s government announced that it had eradicated absolute poverty, measured against a standard equivalent to $2.30 per person per day applied to rural areas. The latest Household Survey on Income, Expenditure and Living Conditions data by China’s National Bureau of Statistics, available for the year 2018, suggest that against an international poverty line of $1.90 per day, the poverty rate had declined to below 0.5 percent. This suggests China has reduced the number of poor people by close to 800 million since 1980. Whatever the specific numbers, China’s poverty reduction is a remarkable achievement". 

and this.....


In China today, poverty refers mainly to the rural poor, decades of economic development has reduced urban extreme poverty.[1][2][3] According to the World Bank, more than 850 million Chinese people have been lifted out of extreme poverty; China's poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 0.7 percent in 2015, as measured by the percentage of people living on the equivalent of US$1.90 or less per day in 2011 purchasing price parity terms,[4][5]which still stands for 2022.[6][7][8]Chinese definition of extreme poverty is more stringent than that of World Bank, and is defined as earning less than $2.30 a day at purchasing power parity (PPP),[9]Since the start of far-reaching economic reforms in the late 1970s, growth has fueled a substantial increase in per-capita income lifting people out of extreme poverty.


What do others think?

I was certainly surprised when I checked out the poverty rate.

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It is pretty impressive and as an achievement it's a big one. The primary Contributing factors I would say, besides the intent and will to do it of course; the one child policy, that was active from 1980 to 2016, forced most families in poverty to have only one child. 

Usually the norm for those living in poverty, is to have more children than that, due to increased infant and child mortality rates and a desire for an all hands on deck mentality, wherein more children meant more people to go out and make money for the family. Based on the impact of this policy on the poverty rate, the mentality was counter intuitive as for every child born, money has to be stretched further and the child will be incapable of contributing anything to the rest of the family for many years. So financially speaking, each new child requires considerable investment before a return can be had on their contributions, which may not ever fully compensate for the investment, for many decades, if at all. 

The population growth rate in China has definitely ground down to a very slow crawl. While the death rate has sped up. 

On the negative side of things, accusations of forced sterilization of Ugyurs and other minorities could be one other contributing factor.

So, great achievement, to be respected, but not a justification for human rights violations, media suppression, attacks on free speech etc.

I very much doubt a one child policy could ever be enacted here. Especially with 30 states essentially giving the finger to Roe vs Wade. 

That said, I could be overestimating the contribution by the one child policy. Enclosing the line graphs on the pop growth and death rate below via screenshots. Will edit with source links too.



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I just want to point out that the effect of the policy is disputed (and there were other, potentially  more effective policies prior to one child. One interesting read:



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