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Some in this thread keep harping on NASA and saving money as though all NASA has to do is figure out how to save money and the problems will be all over. NASA is pitifully underfunded, the Iraq war spent more money in a day or two than NASA gets in a year. Cut the cost of NASA by 50% and the funding would still be a joke. Increase it by 500% and it would still be a joke. NASA does incredible things with almost no money, I have an outrageous amount of respect for NASA, if they had received 10% of what is given to the Military in the last 50 years I can't even imagine what they might have accomplished by now.

 

BTW, a nuclear light bulb rocket of the same mass as the Saturn V could send the entire ISS into orbit in one shot with room to spare, i am talking about the entire thing, all the parts. It has taken us decades and many launches and it is still not finished with chemical rockets.

I agree 100% but say that to the lobbyist who will like to and at this time have major power doing away of humans in space .The European Union is full of these lobbyist and are in the US now and look at NASA in the past 5 years the 2012 retirement of space shuttle and no replacement yes no replacement the lobbyist are hard at work.

Look the UK,European Union,Japan,South Korea, Israel and may be Canada have the technology to put people in space but not the money why to the lobbyist !!

Now with China may be Japan and South Korea will have no choice now.

By the way what is a nuclear light bulb ?

Using it or not, the research might be done continuously. The therapy will not be done in the hospital but in the international human factory, because of money problem. The role of the hospital is a few on that kind of treatment.

The more the treatment is complex, the more doctor role would be small.

How can you say it will not be done in hospitals is the the holy grail finding way to turn gene on or off the god like power of playing with persons gene ?

Laser, space elevator, and microwave? That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. They won't bring the cost down and they will not work. At least, not in our lifetimes. Not even close

What are the the main engineering problems has I do not understand rocket science.What are the main engineering problems to make this from scfi to a reality?

In the point of genetic diseases treatment, gene repair is not easy, and some researcher's successes is not all safe, there are too many factors to control.

But some research would have been continued forward, for example, eye retina cell gen repair--- there is no other way to treat, congenital diabetes, etc.

And middle step genetic engineering is gene interference technique, which is control gene expression in the cell by using micro-rna, ...

But problem is not technical problem, but economical problem .

The used treatment requires too much money, because to make that drug or the treatment requires too much step to do and expensive instruments.

Are you talking about gene therapy and in 10 to 15 years using gene therapy?

What what ?? are you saying laser ,nuclear fission ,space elevator and microwave is all crack pot ideas?? And will not bring the cost down and will not work?

Neat. Now they just need to make the most powerful lasers in the world about a million times stronger and we could use them to lift shuttle sized objects 40-50 feet at enormous cost!

Than why is there research going into it than?

No, the space program is not doomed. Just your visions for achieving something akin to Star Trek or Star Wars in the immediate future.

What is your definition of space program? My definition of space program is more than just space probes,robots and hubble. And no Star Trek or Star Wars going to other star system or warp drive is way way way way way way beyond are level of technology today.Same with building big SSTO like in scfi and big enterprise D in star trek is way way way way beyond are level of technology today.If any of these are even scientifically possible but I will give them credit that we are too primitive to give reply to this.

Look anyone that can bring space cost down by 30% or 50% would get a nobel prize physics.

It was the cold war the cold war NASA and air force put alot of money into x-projects among many different propulsion from the 60' s to late 90's and the x-projects in the 90's was high.But the governments cut the program even when research is still being done that is why government does bad job at doing things other than cold war . The x-33 had major problems but now the problems got fixed but guess what it got cancelled and the problems got fixed way after well not surprised has goverrnments are known to do this 50% or 70% into the research .

NASA today putts very little money into different propulsion system than like before but it is a mistake among people that think NASA is a agency that is in the rocket science business they are not or even putting people into space.Look if it was not for the cold war we would not be going into space toady but using space probes that are way way way way cheaper than putting people into space.

I say this again chemical rockets will not allows us to do space mining,live on the moon or mars ,cities on the moon or mars a moon base so on.Why way way way way way way to costly.And most countries are way more than haping using space probes.

so yes the space program is doomed.

Look NASA would not be doing research and other people would not be doing research if on paper laser could work so you are false .It is one think for it to work on paper and other to test and build it .

Yes there is engineering problems or NASA would be using it now or in the next 10 to 15 years from now.Again NASA does not give money to crack pot ideas so please go school before posting that this all BS.And explain why NASA was doing research into it.

And if you think this is a crack pot idea please look at the 90's x-programs if you even know of what are the x-programs are they are nothing like what I'm posting here..

It's a flippin' video from History channel or something similar, NEC. Scientists and engineers don't do videos. We do papers. Crackpots do videos.

Why don't you explain the pros and cons and engineering problems of laser and microwave and why NASA is not using this .Well in 50 or 100 years from now is it possible.Is NASA still doing research into it.

If this is what you are pinning your hopes on for the future of the space program, the joke is on you.

I have no idea what you are talking about or how many gigawatts of power it would take just to take 3 or 4 people up into space and where they are going get that power.

And in spae what they are going use Microwave or solar farm that will shine a laser beam to the craft.

About 5:05 in the video I have no idea what they are talking about ,I'm thinking that may be the they mean microwave and solar is what they are going to use in space.And it looks like a big solar farm that will shine a laser to the craft in space.

No idea what aeoospike is or how laser will replace air places.

Look overpopulation and crude medicine not having close to star trek medicine is going to mean nothing in 50 or 100 years from now when ww3 comes about finding over water,food and oil yes this will happen the earth will go boom in 50 or 100 years do to overpopulation and lack of earth resources like food,water,coil ,oil and gas and mining.

We do not have space ship that can do space mining or take people to moon and mars and live there and other star system and there is nothing on the drawing board so having only 1 kid is the only option and rationing to the rocket science improves.

Nice video on some of the biotechnology and bioengineering and how that will improve medicine and treatment and allow people to live longer .

Biotech Revolution 1 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olNA4axfLCc&feature=related

Note Marat did you even watch part 2 of the video what they are going to do with that information?

Biotech Revolution 2 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vihla-2CJ4I&feature=related

Nice video how a laser -propelled spacecraft concept would work.

Note loss me about 5:05 in the video what they are talking about and what Microwave and solar has to do with it.

Already have them, there is even a holographic entertainer in Japan

 

http://www.realestateradiousa.com/tag/hatsune-miku-holographic-singer/

 

What do you mean by holographic ? The only holographic that looks like true holographic is this

All 2 are fake and not true holographic.Well a true holographic will look like that but they are fake to look like a holographic.

What is Holographic storage?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_storage

Holographic data storage is a potential replacement technology in the area of high-capacity data storage currently dominated by magnetic and conventional optical data storage. Magnetic and optical data storage devices rely on individual bits being stored as distinct magnetic or optical changes on the surface of the recording medium. Holographic data storage overcomes this limitation by recording information throughout the volume of the medium and is capable of recording multiple images in the same area utilizing light at different angles.

 

Additionally, whereas magnetic and optical data storage records information a bit at a time in a linear fashion, holographic storage is capable of recording and reading millions of bits in parallel, enabling data transfer rates greater than those attained by optical storage

By looking at that web site it seems it records by using pattern of laser beems and adjusting the reference beam angle so 0 bit may have reference that looks in shape than 1 bit reference .So by using the 2 adjusting laser pattern you can read and record using 0's and 1's .

First I don't know how these devices work or what is holding back these devices .It is very much in TV shows and movies the scfi !! My take is it be 50 years or more to we have it and still some of the devices may be scfi and have no science base.

It will be cool if we had these devices but again I do not know how those devices work or if they have any science base.

1.Holographic like in star trek or star wars Princess Leia

2.Holographic storage

3.Molecular assembler

Is any of these device scientifically possible and what is the engineering problems? I know with a laser gun or phaser like in star trek the main problem is a material problem and battery to have a battery smaller than you fist that can hold 2 megawatts of power and material that will not over head and brake do to the laser .

But the molecular assembler ,holographic storage or holographic like Princess Leia no idea how it works or what is the engineering problem?

1 won't work once the craft gets into space.

 

2 and 3, is that laser being used as propulsion or as an energy source?

Why would it not work in space.You add energy to laser the laser heats up the air and cause the craft to go up.

Your question is too ambiguous. Is the laser on the spaceship? Is the light used for propulsion or for energy via solar panels?

There are 3 ways a craft may get up into space using laser .

1.A craft shines laser beem out the craft to heat up the aire to get the craft to go up

2.Wel uses laser pulse and rides on the pulse to get it up into space

3.Well at the ground they shine a laser beem to the craft to get it to go up.

Note solar sails cannot be used to get the craft up into space it must be used for in space propulsion only.

From what I understand payload is problem has laser propulsion the craft has to be very small and need so much power gigawatt power.I think this where they stuck trying fix this problem.

A power problem and payload too small has the craft does not allow for bigger payload .

Mr Skeptic you still did not reply to my last post or say the pros and cons of laser propulsion and some of the problems they are having with laser propulsion.

We haven't been able to agree on a way to determine that yet.

Well are you talking about state of the art technology or socialized medicine.Why because socialized medicine may make it fair for everyone but not state of the art technology .

Alot of the times the university hospitals or private hospital get state of the art technology before the other hospital .And patients in those hospitals are more likely to be on clicical trials like new drugs ,stem cell and other treatment than the other hospitals that get it 10 or 15 years later.

But the idea that there can be a genetic mutation that makes us immune to HIV is wonderful. Go go gadget genetic studies!

 

But all kidding aside that is probably where this type of cure will come from since bone marrow transplants are so complex.

The study will show how the immune system works and show how the HIV and the body works and this will lead to better treatment and may be a cure in the future

I'm sorry, but what exactly do you mean by fusion or fission propulsion. These are methods for the production of energy. However, they won't produce thrust without another system. You could use them to produce power for an ion system, but you still need fuel. Fission reactors are not necessarily large though, NASA used small reactors for the Voyager probes I think. They weren't huge in spacecraft terms.

What are you talking about there is no fusion or fission propulsion .They would have to build it .Has for fusion propulsion there is no point building it to they get working fusion .

Has for ion propulsion it does not have enough thrust to take any thing up in space same with plasma propulsion .That is why ion propulsion and plasma propulsion must be used for in space only.

On July 16, Defence Minister Peter MacKay stood in front a life-size model of a fighter plane and announced the biggest military purchase in Canada's history.

"The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is the best aircraft we can provide our men and women in uniform to face and defeat the challenges of the 21st century," he said. Canada had signed a multi-billion-dollar deal for 65 planes.

The announcement unfolded as planned.

Inside National Defence headquarters, analysts compiled a report on the 263 articles and 94 editorials produced on the subject. Initial coverage was considered positive.

Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/technology/Selling+Canada+need+fighter+jets/3965471/story.html#ixzz18EAVZjM2

As expected, Acer announced not one, but three tablets today. However, even the company's CEO, Gianfranco Lanci, admitted that the 5-incher it also unveiled is primarily a phone. All these devices were in scarce supply at Acer's downtown Manhattan product unveiling, but we managed to grab a few moments with the still-unnamed 10-inch Android tablet.

Roughly a half-inch thick and somewhat long longer (or narrower—it has a 16:9 aspect ratio) and heavier than the Apple iPad, the Acer tablet runs Android, though it wasn't clear which version. Acer execs said its release schedule for these Android tablets is dependent on when the tablet version of Android (code-named Honeycomb) is ready.

More information and pictures here http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2373237,00.asp

Note looks like acer is bringing out surface computing soon.

WASHINGTON — German researchers who used a bone marrow transplant to treat a cancer patient with the AIDS virus, have declared him cured of the virus—a stunning claim in a field where the word “cure” is barely whispered.

The patient, who had both HIV infection and leukemia, received the bone marrow transplant in 2007 from a donor who had a genetic mutation known to give patients a natural immunity to the virus.

Nearly four years after the transplant, the patient is free of the virus and it does not appear to be hiding anywhere in his body, Thomas Schneider of Berlin Charite hospital and colleagues said.

“Our results strongly suggest that cure of HIV has been achieved in this patient,” they wrote in the journal Blood.

Read more here http://www.thestar.com/article/907565--german-doctors-declare-cure-in-hiv-patient

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