Moontanman

If only dreams could come true!

With just the little help Ukraine received from NATO, even though Ukraine was not a member, has allowed Ukraine to pretty much hand Russia it's proverbial Ass on a silver platter. With the full help of NATO Russia would have been repulsed fully... probably even denied the Donbas region of Ukraine it took in 2014. In fact considering the poor showing of the Russian war machine so far NATO could have taken a considerable amount of actual Russian territory by now quite possibly taking the region between Ukraine and Kazakhstan with relative ease. In fact all things being considered without nuclear weapons Russia barely qualifies as more than a thorn in the side of Europe and its existence is a result of no one wanting the frozen tundra that makes up most of Russia. IMHO Russia's best bet to remain a viable nation would be to suck up to NATO as to become a source of natural resources possible even becoming part of NATO... instead Russia is doing its best to imitate a military threat to try and blackmail Europe into being Russia's bitch. Kinda like a Chihuahua trying to make a great Dane it's bitch. The time of warfare being used to dominate the world is over, this mind set is dead, somewhat like a zombie, now days the most effective way to insure internal peace and prosperity is by cooperation of nations and the real enemy is oligarchy using fascism to achieve internal control. IMHO! The Zombies have to be eliminated, the so called "conservative mindset", is little more than zombies trying to recreate the past of societies being run by the fear of various outdated ruling methods/monetary systems like communism, capitalism, theism, monarchies, or other oligarchies. These ruling systems are not just outdated they are toxic to human existence, yes small parts of some of these systems can be used to govern a region but none of them are viable for everyone in the long term. Violent conflict must be allowed to die out and peaceful tolerance of those who are different but non violent must become who we are as a planetary civilization.

What is the percentage of people the placebo effect actually works on? Seems a bit like faith healing to me, "as long as you believe" I've had the placebo effect tried on me once, I was hospitalized after a terrible boating accident. I was injured severely with broken bones and internal injuries, as lay in the hospital in extreme pain the doc wasn't comfortable giving me more pain meds so he conspired with my wife to pretend to give me a "new groundbreaking pain medicine" They gave me an injection with a large amount of theatrics and it had no effect at... I continued to be in extreme pain. I've never forget those six weeks in that hospital, makes my heart rate climb just thinking of it. BTW contrary to what movies and TV tell you people don't just lose consciousness when they are in extreme pain.

So how would you propose that small nations prevent large aggressive nations from absorbing them into the larger nation? Surrender? That is the only option I see. This eventually results in a one world nation ripe for internal civil wars at the very least. How do we allow smaller countries to maintain their independence?

yes but Putin couldn't intimidate his victims if he didn't have nukes, his regular military can't do shit.

It's amazing how many people are aggressor nation apologists in this scenario. I wonder if it was their nation that was being invaded and taken over would they still be apologists for the aggressors? It's not like Putin or Hitler just wanted some breathing room to ride their horses. While I am not and would not be in favor of my country invading and taking over another nations territory I am in favor of my nation defending me against such actions. Yes I said "defending me" that is one big reason we live in nations. Our ancestors sought safety in numbers and i doubt they or we really think that aggression to take over someone else's territory is the same as defending their territory. Yes the world would (maybe) be a safer place if no nukes existed but I think it's arguable that nukes have prevented an all out WWIII type scenario from occurring since WWII, Yes I know small wars have occured and continue to occur but large scale conflicts have been avoided and I think it's arguable that nukes have played a big part in this avoidance. Constant large scale conflicts could be a game changer for civilization and prevent any real world order. There have been several potential world wide conflict triggers since WWII but the threat of nukes being used has helped mitigate the scale and ferocity of these conflicts and provided a real reason for the parties involved to sue for peace. Is it a perfect system... no of course not... but trusting aggressor nations to keep to their own "side" has never worked and appeasement has only ever resulted in the appeased wanting more and more. Putin apologists are no better now than Hitler apologists were in preventing aggression that leads to widespread warfare. IMHO Putin intended to use his nukes to intimidate the world into allowing him to retake all of the "lost" appendages of the USSR and with an almost certain intent to take much more of the world under his "wing" to protect them from the peace and prosperity of being free nations. Putin/Russia/China/DPRK and other nations have motives that are simply not part of allowing a world where nations exist to peacefully coexist on the world's stage. I know the "West" isn't exactly pure as the driven snow in it's motives but at least actively invading and taking over other countries via warfare is at least officially illegal. Large aggressor nations should be opposed by smaller nations combing their efforts to thwart the ambitions of larger aggressive nations. And yes i know my nation isn't innocent but we can be better and that can't happen if nations like russia can use the threat of nukes to straight up intimidate other nations into surrender.

Actually Putin has said this but it doesn't really matter, they had no reason to take back anything. The countries involved are sovereign states and did not ask russia to invade them and kill their citizens. So you are a russian apologist? They have claimed they have a right to take back alaska, claim they were cheated by the US. How do you think that is going to go over? Ukraine is kicking their asses so badly they have resorted to making nuclear threats, anyone who trusts Russia and Putin is foolish.

So we all just surrender to the Russians? Or the Chinese or whatever aggressive power decides to invade us and take over? The people of Finland didn't join NATO to prevent being vaporized they did it to prevent the Russians from invading them. There is safety in numbers, as for nukes... if everyone didn't have them I would be all about preventing anyone from getting them but at this time even minor players can get nukes, DPRK would seem to be a good example and if you believe Russia won't invade ask Ukraine. Russia has made it plain they intend to take back all of the Soviet former states and then some. And they are not shy about rattling around their nuclear capabilities. I'm not sure how you keep rogue states from using the threat of nukes to intimidate and even invade their neighbors but I am quite sure not having nukes to deter their use will not do it.

Thanks guys, I think i see where my mind went wrong, thanks again.

In the video it shows as it's first example that an instantaneous signal does not violate causality... I've watched it over and over, he does say this and shows it by moving through the diagram to show that from the stand point of all three, the supernova, earth and vega that causality is not violated. I'll watch it yet again. I can't understand why only I am seeing this. In the cool worlds video starting at 10:45 to 13:40 only after he puts a STL ship on the diagram does causality violations show up. To me it seems that the STL ship sending a FTL message back to Earth causes the problem. If the STL ship couldn't send the message then causality would not be violated except the STL ship would be confused by the message if it could receive it. But if the STL ship could nether send or receive the FTL signal the causality would be preserved from from everyone's point of view. Vega might receive the message before it could see the light but this info wouldn't be able to cause a time loop unless vega could send a signal to before the earth saw the nova. Am i making any sense here or am i just totally off the rails? The time paradox could be avoided by the moving ship not being able to send a FTL signal and would be totally avoided if the STL ship couldn't receive a FTL signal either. I see how this is contrived but the fact is can be contrived to not violate causality seems to indicate the FTL signal could be sent and received just not by small moving objects. All of a sudden I do see the problem and where I made my mistake but it doesn't seem completely impossible to send an FTL message and the size and maybe mass of the object sending the signal are at the crux of the issue. I guess i am too much of an optimist to think this is impossible but the circumstances do seem to need to be rather "special".

So an instant transmission directly to vega from sol would not violate causality as is explained in the video but a instant transmission from a spacecraft would?

I have been told that the story was going to say the human brains were being used as part of the matrix AI's artificial brain then the changed it to being a battery. It is after all science fiction and in this case not particularly good science fiction... or at least not a very good premise.

How does instantaneous transmission of a signal show up?

Sadly I guess this is just one more thing I'll have to accept on faith or at least my trust in others who know more than me... ok, no other choice I guess. I but I do have to ask is this final or could some other breakthrough in science like solving the connection between the quantum mechanics, relativity, and gravity bring about an understanding that makes this diagram obsolete? Is there any work in that direction at all?

I do understand that and I understand Special Relativity came from Einstein but why or how does that result in this diagram?

I have a question, where does the space diagram come from and how do we know it is an accurate representation of reality? The diagram seems to be the fly in the ointment, I know it is assumed to be accurate by the youtube poster and by everyone here but why?

I'm sorry I thought I was quoting Genedy, my bad, and my bad for not understanding what the video is saying. It's been bothering me since I first watched it, I know what everyone says about FTL being time travel but for some reason I see something different in the diagram as explained by the guy in the video. I know what I am supposed to see but it looks quite different to me for some reason that I can't quite put my finger on. The problem is my misperception, for some reason the diagram is tripping me up.

I was not answering you when I mentioned the space ship train. I am trying to reply to everyone, not just you. It's must be my wishful thinking that is clouding my tiny brain... I'll continue to take your word for it, I must be missing something. I knew I shouldn't have posted this video, only served to make me look stupid for asking the question.

I don't get it, the space time diagram specifically says there is no causality violation under those circumstances. No, he specifically says the transmission doesn't violate causality unless the ship signals back to the earth to shut off it's transmitter. You are not looking at the diagram at the beginning. He specifically says the instantaneous transmission by itself would not violate causality. The train of ships that Genedy talked about.

So the train of ships is not moving? The diagram says differently.

That situation seems more than a bit contrived, how about a FTL transmission isn't possible from a small moving object? Maybe only a planet sized object can be used to house or mount an FTL transmitter? No less contrived at least?

So instantaneous is ok as long as it doesn't come from a moving ship? That is what I thought.