Moontanman

I've cut up large numbers of squid, I like to catch and eat them, the arms are arranged around the head... hence the name cephalopod. When you cut one up the head becomes obvious but if there are any experts here I would appreciate a call on this... do squids have a distinct head? Personally I'd say an octopus comes closer to your idea but both squid and octopus are highly derived snails.

I'm not sure what you mean, a squid has a head, that head contains the eyes, the brain, and the mouth... and feet or arms but no braincase! True, a praying mantis is almost the poster child of such an idea.

Good point, another flaw in my question, I was asking about more than just intelligence, I was aiming for technologically advanced as part of the requirements as well as form and intelligence.

The first real book I remember reading was "When Worlds Collide" and then "After Worlds Collide" probably jr high school, that was the first time I had access to a library. I am sure I read other books before that but I don't really remember much about them.

Good one and a great song!

How do you define humanoid? None of that would necessarily come about because the planet was identical to Earth. Gould suggested that even vertebrates wasn't a sure thing, in fact eukaryotes aren't a sure thing. Eukaryotes are thought to have come about by a symbiosis between vastly different organisms with no guarantee of similar results on any planet. Interesting idea but odd that nothing like that on a large scale has been found on Earth even in the fossil record. I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. I would assume that on any world with life you would get a myriad of species on at least the microscopic scale ie bacterial level. But once you get to the stage of microbes... what determines where you go from there? A separate head and body was already well established in mobile animals in the Cambrian well before anything like a "enlarged brain" evolved. That depends on the environment and on Earth life has struggled with both hot and cold temps. I think maybe I asked the question in a wonky fashion. Possibly we should be thinking about "is the humanoid form needed to make tools, hunt, process meat and hides, build shelters and such" I am open to suggestions but if this form is needed then our civilization becomes dependant on some wildly unlikely scenarios.

What would aliens look like? Many people seem to think they would be more less human in appearance, "humanoid" is the term often used. But what does that mean and how likely is an alien to be "humanoid"? I guess defining humanoid is the best way to start, a head, a torso, two arms, two legs? By that definition a gorilla is humanoid. Stephen Jay Gould, is his book "Wonderful Life" Gould suggested that rerunning the "movie" of life would not result in the same organisms we are familiar with, even something as basic as vertebrates might not exist if the tape of life was rerun. This would suggest that aliens that resemble us at all would be highly unlikely. However there is the idea of Convergent evolution where vastly different creatures that occupy similar ecological niches often look like each other. Sharks, Ichthyosaurs, and dolphins are often cited as examples. Would this process be likely to produce alien creatures that look like us, ie humanoid? Should we expect intelligent aliens to resemble us? If so how closely?

The situation is tense in my 'hood.

I bet Boebert wishes the Beetlejuice video one was a deep fake.

She might claim a different version but it's all on tape!

They looked so fake to me I was stunned to see them presented as real. This whole UAP thing has gone from a sometimes interesting dog and pony show to the "Greatest show on Earth circus" The Garush guy who came out gave me "lying sack of steaming monkey shit" vibes from the beginning. Once they included Skinwalker ranch in the earlier "revelation" and the ultra rich guy who was running the investigation on the government's dime I knew it was just another layer of BS. Then the right wing politicians began to glom onto the idea... nothing but a feeble attempt at distraction from the crazy republican agenda. I am surprised that MTG and Lauren Boebert aren't dancing in circles around a bonfire howling at the moon over this one. And yes... I am ashamed to have been sucked in by this.

The government of Mexico has on put on public display what they are saying is "alien bodies" not sure what to make if this. The Bodies don't look real to me, what do you think?

I love this quirky independent music, I hope this is the direction music takes away from what is currently known as pop music.

Now that was funny! Took me a few seconds to get it.

Or using UAPs as a political distraction or to justify more money for "the space command". It bothers me that the very people we know are dishonest sacks of steaming monkey shit, ie Trumpers, are now suddenly telling the truth about something as ethereal and in need of real study as UAPs. I don't buy it, nothing but smoke and mirrors, keep your eye on the money!

I didn't mention dimensions, I said plane of existence... get with the program 🙃 and don't forget the time travelers. Yeah, I'm having a crisis of faith in UAPs, this whole "gush" of sudden info about UAP just doesn't ring true to me. Unicorns are real, it's our image of them that is wrong.

On the other hand the idea of aliens is not the only explanation on the table and the way the idea of aliens is often danced around has made many wonder if the explanation is something else. From secret Earth technology to travelers from other planes of existence to even time travelers (wouldn't it be ironic if we found out that travel to other planes of existence is easier than star travel?) since this is all speculation by definition why leave out these possibilities? Since all evidence so far presented is just eyewitness, hearsay, and or of unknown or undocumented origin why bother? It's no better than myths about fairies, trolls, angels, and or gods, in fact Jacques Vallée, protege of J. Allen Hynek had caused Hynek and others to begin to consider that UFOs were a manifestation of the same conditions that brought about mythological beings like fairies, trolls and such. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vallée Personally I don't believe the guy who has been made famous by his disclosure of UAP information, David Grusch, is either a pawn or a liar or both. He comes across like a bad used car salesman to me. Just IMHO.