Moontanman

If I remember my history of paganism correctly the word pagan originally meant something along the lines of "backward", "uneducated" or "country bumpkin". Navy? Can you elaborate?

You've convinced me, a thought experiment has to be based in reality as we understand it or it's meaningless, I apologize to everyone for wasting their time.

I am not proposing that time travel is possible. Interesting concepts but I see them as being in no way any more or less rational that any other time travel concepts and no more or less arbitrary than any others I have read about. Ok then, I still say my thought experiment is valid and that my assertion is valid as well. Boiled down to its most basic. The only person who can know the timeline has changed is the time traveler. Everyone else is carried along in the time stream and the original time stream ceases to exist. Of course this is fictional, the very premise is fictional, but fictional premises can be used to figure out logical outcomes in even fictional scenarios. the idea of course opens up a huge can of worms but they are fictional worms and only have meaning in the context of the fictional thought experiment.

You miss my point entirely, if someone was at war with someone else their goal would be to change time to their benefit not plant rabbits in the Cambrian. While not impossible, planting rabbits in the cambrian might just be the ultimate weapon... but killing a key figure in history would, at first blush at least, seem to be the easiest way to change history. No need to lug around high tech objects with you. Simply knowing the where and when of the target would allow you to pretty much eliminate them at your leisure. Any thought experiment will not be useful if nonsensical parameters are injected into the scenario for no reason other than to disrespect the person trying to honestly understand what we can and cannot know... yes this ties into my famous obsession with certain mysteries. i am trying to understand what can and cannot be known under any or all circumstances. Since time travel is as technically possible as warp drive but also just as surely impossible in reality and this fact has never been used to ridicule anyone who comes up with a thought experiment about what the effects of a real warp drive would be on society. I may not have hit the nail on the head with my thought experiment but my effort was honest and in no way deceptive or meant to ridicule anyone. I would have expected help to make my question better not ridicule to make me look bad.

If there were precambrian rabbits, that would be part of our history and we would not know that time travelers had transported rabbits to the precambrian. My point is that how would we know what is natural and what is the result of intentional time changes? I agree, I am not trying to justify time travel, I am trying to do a thought experiment to see if we could be aware of time changes. Obviously but that doesn't negate the thought experiment. I am not suggesting time travel wars are real I am saying that if they were there would be no way we could know. The idea of a time war taking place in the cambrian ignores the actual idea of war. We would not nuke DC to hurt the Russians, any actions by time warriors would take place in ways that maximized injury to the enemy while limiting any damage to the "home team". An episode of ST Enterprise comes to mind. They were in the middle of a Temporal War, without the help of the actual time warriors I can't see how anyone would be aware of changes in the timeline made in the past since they could not be aware of those changes due to the past changing the present. In the episode Aliens had helped NAZI Germany to win WW2, no one who wasn't outside the timeline had a clue any changes had been made. If someone went back in time to stop Hitler and succeeded how could we know? Our present would not exist and so no one would have any memory of the original timeline... we, as individuals, would probably not exist at all. In all fairness here there does need to be a major assumption here in addition to time travel being possible. The time travelers would have to carry their time machine with them and be immune to the time changes due to this "machine" I just remembered the TV show "Timeless" They had this premise, they could change time and avoid those changes themselves. So my assertion is that we could not detect any changes in the timeline and we would be blissfully unaware of any "time war" no matter how world shattering the time changes were.

Lots of silly crap is asserted on various platforms online but one of the weirdest is the idea that there is currently a war being fought across time. Of course various bits of "evidence" is asserted but... Let us for a moment participate in a thought experiment. Let's say we want to know if a time war is being fought, how would/could we know? If a time traveler went back in time and changed something, no matter his motivation, could we know? Or, in my estimation most likely, would the time changes be completely undetectable by us, the equivalent of non combatants? If someone went back in time and changed history, imho, we would never know, no matter how violent or destructive the acts of the time traveler were in the past those acts would be part of our history and be seen by us as simply how history unfolded. Even if time was changed a 1000 times in one day we would simply see those changes as our history... completely undetectable as anything but the way things were and are. IMHO. A time war is not just nonsensical from what we know about time travel if it was actually happening it would be something we could never know of... your thoughts?

Cut and paste someone else's nonsense (Fermer1959) or are you spreading it around under different names?

OK, I read the link and all i can say is... DUH! Change occurs over time, what part of that would lead anyone to believe that evolution is confined to the Earth?

ROFLMAO!

So many jokes here I'll let you guys make them out!

This song should be playing in every voting center in the country during the election!

Yes, I have my doubts about a stable element at atomic number 164, in fact I was under the impression that the so called island of stability was supposed to be around element 124 and the stability was somewhat less than... stable. More important than simply speculating is getting an accurate measurement. However, the margin of error is so great on this one it makes you wonder how such a extreme error could be taken seriously at all. Even if the asteroid was 100% Osmium the density is far and away from anything you would expect from a reasonable measurement. A pure Iron Nickel asteroid should have a density of around 7.8 grams per CC even a pure Osmium asteroid, 22.59 grams per CC, which is wildly unlikely, wouldn't come close to the claimed measurement of 75 grams per CC. Lots of unknowns in science, various readings, findings, measurements that do not comport with reality was we think we know it. I think it's important to investigate these things when possible, remeasure when possible, but we shouldn't fall into the trap of assuming something is impossible because we can't explain it. Is there some other possibility which would make this measurement a bit closer to reality?

Do super dense asteroids point to the possibility of heavy elements not found on Earth? 33 Polyhymnia is thought to be 3 times as dense as the densest element on the earth Osmium. Osmium is 22.59 grams per cubic centimeter with an atomic number of 76 but 33 Polyhymnia seems to be made of something close to three times as dense as Osmium. This would correspond to an element that has an atomic number of around 164. https://earthsky.org/space/ultradense-asteroids-polyhymnia-cudos-superheavy Should we be thinking of visiting this asteroid to see if we can obtain samples of this unknown element?

I had a doctor with a sense of humor once, scared the living shit out of me with a cast saw. He was a catbird for sure.

One of the most often sighted cryptids and or sea monsters is the sea serpent, sailors, for centuries, gace reports of giant sea monsters that were large enough to endanger their ships and other wise scare the bejesus out of otherwise brave men. Some of the examples were the giant squids, now days we know that giant squids exist, maybe not as big as reported but still big enough to be monsters. Sea Serpent sightings are now days thought to be the result of Oarfish being mistaken for Sea Serpents but there are sea serpents alive today, real snakes that live in the sea, one of which is reputed to grow to 9 feet long. But has there ever been a real giant sea serpent like the one of legend? Yes! Yes around 50 million years ago there is thought to have been a sea snake that could have been as long as 40 feet or more! Palaeophis colossaeus was this snake! From the description With all the "cryptid" enthusiasm for Megalodon I am quite surprised this snake isn't being blamed for sea serpent sightings, possibly it's relatively new discovery or maybe it is still to obscure, for whatever reason it remains true that giant sea serpents once existed... and old time sailors reported seeing them. I doubt there was any real connection but it remains an interesting coincidence. Now, if we can just find one washed up on shore 😁