Everything posted by studiot
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Could the Internet become self aware?
Indeed, it depends on which side of the cutlery one reside's An aquired taste means we have to learn to live with it, not that we like it... Old spots forever. 🙂
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Implicit surface
Start here for mesh modelling of real world solid objects. (if a T Rex is real world 🙂) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coons_patch
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Implicit surface
Have you a particular example in mind ?
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Could the Internet become self aware?
Sigh. You seem more interested in holding a mud slinging match than discussion. Let me try again. Here is your entire post that is in contention I replied to parts of this and for convenience quoted only those parts I was replying to. I note that when you when you responded you did exactly the same. I responded to that reasonable question about my previous post in the same reasonable manner as my reasonable answer to the member who prompted that discussion in the first place. You don't think the internet can become self aware, yet you later describe great danger in its doing so. Why bother if it can't become self aware. You then go on to a long list of things (not a phrase but a whole paragraph BTW) that one could look for in the activities of 'the internet'. I picked two of them out to comment on, as the two I can prove already applies to Windows 10. The rest I did not respond to as I have no evidence. The fact remains that you picked this particular part of my post to quote and directly accused me of mockery on the basis of it, when I have at no time until now quoted that part of your post. I take it as obvious you were referring to that misquote of yours since you associated other answers to other parts of my post within your own reply. You done that and obtained a conclusive response from Windows 10? I believe that you just mocked me and/or my input. Please don't do that again. The problem of AI/internet awareness and the dangers related to AI (aware or not) are very serious. I repeat I did not include the red part of your postings in my replies or associate any of my comments with it. But what you have failed to pursue in all this is the validity of my comment about Windows 10,
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Consciousness
I thought joigus commanded us to think deep thoughts.
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Does Distance Decrease between you and an object as your elevation increases?
Sadly the king of jong only stopped by long enough to make his post, but has been to busy with his subjects to come back to us peasants, but +1 for an excellent comment.
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Could the Internet become self aware?
Perhaps the only thing more bloody minded than Windows 10 is the ScienceForums quote function, which certainly distorts quotes by its new habit of 'rolling them up'. A piglet can become excellent bacon or a destroyer in the cabbage patch or even an actual danger to human life.
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Could the Internet become self aware?
Thanks for the support, but Dan does have a point about the dangers made in his second sentence. Lots of things are dangerous in our world and we need to best organise our society to deal with them. Some things are even dangerous but necessary which are the hardest to approach.
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Consciousness
This is not a thread I feel I can usefully contribute to, so I feel honoured to be involved by reference. I suppose this is because of my propensity to respond to questions where members demand binary, black or white, answers by suggesting that when I look at nature I find many more than 50 shades of grey.
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Could the Internet become self aware?
How so ? You made a very specific statement with a subject a verb, an object and a conclusion. Like Windows 10 does already ? Yes I picked this out of your post because of its specifity and made the totally correct observation that Windows 10 already does both the stashing and the initiating/refusing of tasks. So it would not be a new phenomenon to watch for it is already happening. The question mark at the end was in invitation to discuss further if you wished. Your response was to quote a totally different part of your post To which I had not responded and then claim that There can be no mockery in my totally true statement about Windows10, which was the only one I made in that post you took unwarranted exception to. I am sorry if you misconstrued those simple words, had I actually been rude I would apologise.
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Does Distance Decrease between you and an object as your elevation increases?
No the distance increase very slightly as you are further from the centre of the earth. But this is the physical or actual distance your would measure with a tape measure. For this reason all map distances are calculated at a standard ditance from the centre of the Earth - Sea level is normally used. So if you were 50 yards above sea level and measured 100 yards to another object, also 50 yards above sea level you would say that your reduced distance (reduced to sea level) is just under 100yards. The difference is not significant below an elevation of about 1000 feet above sea level, unless you are doing some very advanced surveying.
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The Official JOKES SECTION :)
For the benefit of overseas members, B & Q are a large DIY chain that have been running a heavy advertising campaign under the slogan You can do it.
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Calculation methods of pi
Was there anything you wished to discuss here ? You were not interested in discussion in your last thread on the same subject.
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Implicit surface
In order that a quadric through 9 given points may be determinate:- 1) No four of the nine points may lie on one straight line 2) No more than six may lie in one plane 3) No more than 5 may lie on one conic.
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Could the Internet become self aware?
You done that and obtained a conclusive response from Windows 10? I believe that you just mocked me and/or my input. Please don't do that again. The problem of AI/internet awareness and the dangers related to AI (aware or not) are very serious. If you simply react to what others write and do not read it carefully enough you are likely to knee jerk to the worng conclusions. I did not say this. I did say Like Windows 10 does already ? Windows 10 does both of these things. If you don't know this just ask. But no I do not consider W10 to be self aware, just a bloody nuisance.
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Are Space & Time A Fundamental Property Or Emergent
Let us suppose that we have declared the probability of some event E to be exactly 1, the question arises what do we mean. So P(E) = 1 Interpretation 1. (a priori interpretation) E must always occur. Interpretation 2. (empirical interpretation) E has always occurred. This does not imply that E will occur in the future Interpretation 3 (subjective interpretation) We think E will occur But does not imply that it must occur. As regards the Monsoon, the example refers to the discovery of one Gilbert Walker, Statistician and Director of meteorological observatories in India. At that time the Monsoon was widely regarded as being related to solar activieies, in particular the cycle of sunspots. Walker collected vast amounts of data in India and also had access to data from across the British Empire. Walker offered a discovery of amazing scope. Not only was the Monsoon unrelated to the sunspot cycle, it was related to the pressure and temperature halfway around the world. He could not explain how pressure and temperature in the Western Pacific affected rainfall in the Indian Ocean. But his calculations showed that it did. He named this connection the Southern Oscillation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Walker
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Evidence that we're in the Matrix or something like it
No it is an initiation rite for newcomers. 🙂 Oh and did I say welcome ?
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Implicit surface
It's very complicated because of the cross products (xy, xz, yz) in the general equation. Surfaces have a general equation f(x,y,z) = 0 The equation you refer to is called a quadric and the surfaces are called quadric surfaces. Obtaining a parameterisation means obtaining three equations x = f1 (u,v) y = f2(u,v) z = f3(u,v) So that each RHS only contains the parameters u and v and each LHS only contains one of the coordinates. For 3 dimensions there are many more possibilities than for 2 so the surfaces are often split into further sub categories, each with its own parametrisation. As with 2D to eliminate the efects of the cross products you would normally perform a coordinate transformation first. These are purely analytical methods, I was preparing a detailed explanation, but this often takes me some time so here are five references to be going on with. Sensei mentioned computer methods which work on a different plan and the last reference is about that. https://opentextbc.ca/calculusv3openstax/chapter/quadric-surfaces/ https://www.win.tue.nl/~sterk/Bouwkunde/hoofdstuk3.pdf https://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/classes/calciii/parametricsurfaces.aspx https://www.researchgate.net/publication/241165348_A_Simple_Method_for_the_Parameterization_of_Quadric_Surfaces http://staff.ustc.edu.cn/~dengjs/files/papers/47 mu23.pdf What sort of college course has this stuff as a pre requisite ?
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Are Space & Time A Fundamental Property Or Emergent
I make such a distinction, in fact I distinguish 3 types of probability.
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Military history/history
Whilst I agree that there are vested interests in every branch of History, and none more so than in Political History, I see you are missing the notion that a historian in an uninvolved country, or from an uninvolved time, can dispassionately examine the availbale data and present balanced conclusions. IOW you seem to be suggesting that say a modern South American could have no valid opinion on the Celtic expansion in Europe 4,000 years ago ? I would also point out that the thread is entitled Military History/History and you made a sweeping statement about all forms of History. As to the data, many nations have something like the UK 40 year rule where top secret papers are not released until 40 years after the events. So anything inside that time frame must include a goodly measure of speculation. So I repeat my observation that The more remote (in time and place) the chronicler is from the events the more objective she can be.
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Are Space & Time A Fundamental Property Or Emergent
I should have asked about this in my last post. What is your opinion then, on probability in the light of the general scientific requirement of reproducibility? IOW what do you think of a variable that might sometimes 'emerge' ? Secondly would you consider the Himalayan monsoon emergent from the Southern Oscillation (pressurein the West Pacific)?
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Are Space & Time A Fundamental Property Or Emergent
Thank you for an interesting view, especially the first line. +1
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A child (Science) greater than its parent (Philosophy) ?
Rule 25, subsection Z, paragraph 1025 of this forum states. The better you are as Science, the more the quote function handicaps you. 🙂
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Military history/history
You often offer pithy relevent comments, but I am going to have to disagree with you on this one because it is too general and sweeping, although there is a grain of truth in it. Even for Military History, at least some historians try to be objective, and usually the further back in time they go the more objective they become. A marvellous example of this, in the History of Science would be the book by Millikan originally entitled Atomic Physics, but revised several times as new knowledge became available to end up as Electrons(+ and-) Protons, Photons, Neutrons, Mesotrons and Cosmic Rays. Another good example would be Waters of the World by Sarah Dry which is a developmental History of Climate Science.
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A child (Science) greater than its parent (Philosophy) ?
Thank you for your interest. Did you read the whole thread, or just my introduction ? I think you need to look further back in time than you perhaps realise. Rome was founded on 21 April 753 BC under the name gens rumana, in that area of the italian peninsula coloured purple in my map, which came under Greek colonisation at that time. The name stems from the Etruscan, who were the principle inhabitants at that time. This was towards the end of the bronze age in this area and times were turbulent for several hundred years, partly due to the spreading of iron weapons by the Halstadt culture south into Mediterranean lands. Just as the British were initially more interested in India than the Americas, so the greeks were more interested in the eastern part of their developemnt and colonisation. This left the italian colonies to develop on their own and finally, just as you say, they invaded and conquered a failing Greek empire about 150 BC Neither the Greeks, nor the Romans used the word 'science'. It did not in fact enter the English language directly but through medieval French between 1400 and 1600 AD. But even then it had a different meaning. As late as 1830, AD Herschel was still writing papers and books on Natural Philosophy (meaning what we call Science). Finally I used the word 'greater' not better or more civilised or something implying a value judgement. Strictly greater means more extensive in some way, as I have already explained in a previous post. Thank you for your linkI will look it up.