Everything posted by iNow
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
That's sort of the point of his daily 90+ minute press briefings on the virus (aka: infomercials). Not necessarily about Obama, but it's a way for him to set the narrative he wants... to introduce storylines and topics into the ether. He spews enough nonsense... floods the zone with shit... and people can no longer remain tethered to the thread of fact and reality. Then, at election time, the people predisposed to supporting him can point to his comments... "best response ever"... "not possible to do better"... "governors getting everything they need." etc. He rightly understands that it's hard to track an individual raindrop during a tornado.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
I’d say 52½ since Romney at least voted for 1 of the 2 articles of impeachment I appreciate you acknowledging we’re all sometimes faulty, even you. TBH, however, I’m not even remotely convinced that a few folks on “the left” going off the rails or saying less than perfect things about Trump on the internet or on news shows or pushing too hard for impeachment are ultimately going to matter very much in this election. Trump has a solid 40% electoral base. What people on “the left” do doesn’t really matter in the least. What will matter, you ask? Money. Massive. Pallets upon pallets on trucks and in bank accounts. Of money. That matters far more than a few disparaging comments in the Twittersphere. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/us/politics/trump-fundraising-2020.html
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
It was the FireFauci hashtag included in the original tweet he shared that was problematic. The defense was IMO aimed at Fauci's comment that had we acted sooner we'd be better off... The FakeNews part is that Fauci is lying... that we acted as soon as physically possible (a claim Navarro from his team repeated last night on 60 Minutes)... which is nonsense https://www.cbsnews.com/news/personal-protective-equipment-ppe-doctors-nurses-short-supply-60-minutes-2020-04-12/
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
Meanwhile, Trump decided to retweets a call to fire Dr. Anthony Fauci, the only person that's actually helping and whom the public actually trusts https://www.axios.com/trump-fauci-retweet-conservative-backlash-coronavirus-071a7a88-e677-40db-90c4-493209a37e88.html So, now in addition to the additional security Fauci has needed to protect his life from these idiots due to being good at his job (for at least the last 2 weeks), the character assassination and painting him as public enemy number one is about to get much louder and more intense.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
And yet the moment you cast out labels like “left” and “right” you immediately bifurcate the world into a forced and unrepresentative binary “either/or” state in your mind. There is no spectrum or color, just black and white; hit and cold; us and them. Instead of simply recognizing our shared uniqueness, our commonality from personal difference (everyone you ever meet will know things which you do not), you presume to know all you need to know about the individual human based on a one-dimensional label. You may as well be describing everyone based on the shape of their skull like the idiot phrenologists of old, and I know you well enough by now to acknowledge that’s not who you are at your core.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
So, like both of them?
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
Do you actually think humans of a left leaning political slant all operate like a monolithic unwavering unified bloc... like some sort of Borg hive mind? Because if you don't, then your comments about “the left” seem inactionable and silly.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
I suppose you can choose not to see the obvious connection between the words of leaders and the actions of their followers... deciding instead to lament “the left” if that’s your prerogative.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
In the same way increases in hate crimes against Asians are tied to his calling it the Chinese virus.
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Please tell me we have free will
Please elaborate. Lots of personal attack. Little substance. Can/will you do better?
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
There you go again with that hateful bias. Lol
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
I think you're underplaying how power and influence works. Even if Trump owns zero dollars in that stock, he does get contributions, donations, and support from major players in the economy who do own controlling shares. Those people who will contribute via SuperPAC to his re-election... they can spend tens/hundreds of millions of dollars as a "thanks" to his talking up this one pharmaceutical... and that's a huge potential motivator whether he owns a million shares or zero in his own personal stock accounts.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
I'd prefer if we could keep the medical side of this discussion and whether or not individual treatment options are effective in that other thread, but here's one summary for convenience: https://www.sciencealert.com/small-trial-found-antimalarial-is-not-effective-for-treating-coronavirus
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
It’s actually not, but we already have a different thread for that discussion (which you also just posted in)
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Corona virus general questions mega thread
We’ll know in 2-3 weeks based on new infection rates
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
Who would enforce them? Trump is the chief executive and the executive branch controls law enforcement. He and his justice department can simply ignore them. Then, the only recourse is for congress to impeach, and well... they already have and look at us now.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
He's an insecure bully
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
It looks like any investment here is minuscule. Not likely related to his promotion of it. He may, however, have contacts with far larger stakes. Who knows. Who cares. Anyone taking medical advise from this huckster of a prez kinda deserves the Darwin Award.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
Wow. Shocker. Lol
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Please tell me we have free will
Except, no. This is another version of "there are no atheists in foxholes." It's obvious bullshit, and also totally off-topic.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
You are aware that pharmaceutical companies can set the price on drugs, yeah? You know they could hike that price when demand surges, right? They haven't (in fact, they've cut the price), but you asked for a mechanism of profit and that's a pretty easy answer to share. I'm not saying this is happening. I'm not saying I have evidence. I'm not even saying I dislike Trump. Yet here you are acting like I just called your wife ugly or your child stupid. Stop being a snowflake. It was a passing comment... It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Trump had a financial motivation for mentioning this drug over and over then over again some more from his megaphone bully pulpit all while the medical experts surrounding him keep saying it's not helpful. If you disagree, super. It was a random comment.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
Okay, snowflake
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
Quit being such a snowflake.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
I'd wager money Trump has a monetary interest (or a close "friend" with an interest) in increasing sales of hydroxychlorquine. His cheerleading to me screams of stock price manipulation.
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Corona virus general questions mega thread
@MigL Given what the experts are saying, I suspect I’ll be happy if we make it 15 months without another outbreak