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*raises hand* I swear that is grounds for banning.

Are you including light and heat in that? Because we sorta need them to live. Sure there is, just get a lot of tin foil, some lead paint and an industrial freezer or two, that ought to cut out a fair amount.

If someone (I couldn't do it) were to show the Bible to be credible as a historic document in many other areas then would you count that as evidence (albiet very weak)?

The theory of evolution requires there to be life in the first place for it to evolve so at some point abiogenisis must have occured (there wasn't life, then there was). The odds of a life form just coming together are low, altough the size of the enviroment and timespan allow for unlikely things to happen so I wont leave the argument there. Even lower is the odds of a lifeform coming together that is capable of producing more life forms and passing characteristics on to it's offspring. Those odds are spectacuarly low even with on a massive planet with a massive time frame, no-one could ever quite work out how low the odds are. Something that would make the above a lot more likely would be a deliberate control: that put the right materials together and stirred them up for a bit. If there were an entity capable of doing that then it would be more likely that they had done so than if it had happend by chance. This controlled abiogenisis is not quite Creation in the sense of Biblical Literalism, but still suggests that God (or whatever you want to call it) may well have created the first life.

Because science uses any of logic observation and/or evidence. Sure you can, stating that redshift is caused by a giant photographic gel in the sky is both a theory and nonsense. It is nonsense because it does not make sense to ignore observation (e.g. the fact that dog breeders earn a living) in favour of a self contradictory book. Between a total absense of evidence, and any evidence at all it's pretty easy to see who wins. Evolution doesn't start from the conclusion at all. It starts from the observation that living things tend to be adapted to thier enviroment and that characteristics tend to get passed down the generations, the hypothesis that more desirable characteristics last longer. This hypothesis can be tested with bacteria and when the test results fit with the hypothesis, only then, can a conclusion be formed.

Yes that would be an educated guess, we already knew that. It's still not a glimpse of the future.

No you didn't. You got something that was similar to the future by wieghing up the limited infomation presented to you, that's what a guess is. If you rolled two dice, and they gave the same result that does not suggest any connection between the two events.

No, you accurately guessed it.

That is making an informed guess at the future, something entirely different.

No, for exactly the same reason that you can't have a ladder with three legs.

Well, when there aren't any major storms and it's pretty much the same weather across each region, it doesn't matter that much. Mmmmm sun.

Sure I'd work, sitting around all day is boring. Yeh, damn mice.

You think that the existance of God can be scientifically, logically or otherwise proven or disproven. You think that the holy scriptures of any religion endorses terroism. You think that Ji'had means "holy war". You think that Jesus was a Christian. You don't know the difference between an economic migrant, an illiegal immagrant and an asylum seeker yet you complain about any of them. You are against the European consitution on the grounds of it reducing the UKs power and wont listen when people point out how much more power it presents to the UK. You think that St. George's day should be a national holiday.You think that St. George was British [*]You have a national flag on your car when that nations football/cricket/rugby team is not even playing that week. [*]You use either the word "liberal" or "conservative" as an insult. [*]You think your better than other posters for having used the [ list] tags where they just used dashes. [*]You will talk to door-to-door evangalists because you view it as an opotunity to get your views across. [*]You've got a postcard stuck to your wall showing a street sign that says "Welcome to to United States, remember to think on the right", and you find it amusing.

If the site you want is on a local server then it's pretty simple: no internet connection.

Extreemism is more about how beliefs are acted upon rather than the beliefs themselves. For instance, nearly all Muslims belive that it is inadvisable to seperate the spiritual and other aspects of your life as religion concerns all of it. A minority of these see people who don't follow that as sinning and an even tinnier minority would resort to violence as a response to secularism.

I could have sworn that it couldn't be proven, and that that was proven.

My universe is actually rather big. If you've gone star gazing recently then you still wouldn't have any idea.It's by no means infinite, but if you went for a really long ride you wouldn't hit the edge, in a vauge sense you'd end up back where you started. I'd be happy to post all matter and energy, but this forum isn't hosted on a big enough box. If you've got one just a tad bigger than everything ever then I'll your server. If you would care to show me all the matter and energy in your fingernail, acurately, I might have some respect for you.

I took tripple, my school didn't ask me to take it they just assumed I would.

*slaps forhead* yeh I should have thought of that. Damn my memory. Well done to you to.

I passed them all! Cs in: Food tech Biology Chemistry Geography Bs in: Art Physics English lit English lang French ICT (x2) Maths RS (/2)

Maybe he was trying to get rid of a stolen car.

Knowing enough doesn't always mean capable of making it sound in the slightest bit interesting.

It's pretty much only molecular structure I think. Basically for any chemical change you need energy. Urm no. Brittle and strong are oposites. When something is harder then it'll be more brittle. When something is strong, it'll be softer*. Example: slate, really hard and nearly impossible to crush but can be snapped with your fingers. *in general, not always

Wooh good argument there. Shut the hell up! You are wrong

No, you daren't. There are children here. Think of the children!