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Why do you even answer then? If you are not gonna answer the question? If anything in theory could be done to avoid this...

If there is infinite time??? Also we don't know, if it will be the exactly same universe, or with a slightly different initial conditions.

Except: if you will exist again in the next universe! If it is infinite cycle, sooner or later, you would live again...

I guess you didn't read my first post. Is there anything (hypothetically/theoretically) that could be done about Eternal Return - to avoid it? In CCC only light, radiation and massless particles can cross into another aeon (next iteration of the universe). So there is a hope perhaps. https://youtu.be/PC2JOQ7z5L0?t=669 Although I have no idea, if particles from which is my brain, could be changed to these types of particles... As I heard particles will lose mass in heat death era... Also there is Big Bounce and so many other scary scenarios, even I heard heat death is mostly accepted. Who knows...

You didn't answer. So there is nothing, which can be done? Anyways this was a desperate attempt, last hope I guess. So I wanted to ask... But I already knew there isn't probably anything, which can be done on 99.999999...% As who knows what would happen with particles from which I am in trillion trillion trillion years and in the next iteration. However it is...

If photon is matter and it ceases to exist. What is left then? You said: there are particles and they have energy. So then is it turned into another particle? Because of conservation of matter and energy: "matter, or energy can't be destroyed". In layman terms: thing is what are all forms of photons? Even if I turn myself into light, would that mean, that possibly light can be turned back into particles from which I Am? At some point could it turn into something conscious? Does this has any practical implications? You are not here to tell me everything. I asked more like in a sense: if you think (theoretically/hypothetically) there could be an escape. I don't know if there is even remote answer to this, probably not, as it may depend on far far future! Even black holes will evaporate as radiation. It seems like nothing lasts forever! Even if I was light. Or did something, it wouldn't probably last! Only thing I would life for, if there was like a possible escape, lets say in 50 years theoretically possible! And even then, not sure if I wanted to risk it. Because most likely there is not! Wait and now I Am confused. I thought matter doesn't change into energy. Instead there is matter, which has energy. And some of these particles are massless. I am not even sure what it means. As E = mc^2. Would massless mean no energy?

Yeah I read about these things and I can't even imagine them! I have already problem imagining warping of space time and similar concepts, like time around black hole (as I wondered, if black hole could cause time loop in a vicinity). Or 4D. I have aphantasia - I have no mind's eye (almost no mental images), but I Am great in logic. Sometimes: I can see some, but I wouldn't call them images! More like black blurs... It is like they are behind black cover, or something. And have no continuity. BTW Stargate is my all time favorite TV Show, there are plenty of wormholes

Yeah not to say, that it is not incredible work! And verified by countless experiments, or consistent without many doubts, like theory of Evolution. E.g. in case of Inflation, you can change the theory: so it fits almost any data and problem is - we don't know initial conditions. So we don't know from what we should extrapolate! And reason for them! I am terrible at giving examples: e.g. what if I was Boltzman Brain and everything was just intricate hallucination and wasn't true?! We are limited by our senses. And everything is essentially guessing, as you can't get behind certain point in time and you get into singularity. And how do you even know, what you see from your senses is real? We could be in a simulation. Scientists even proposed practical experiment, but it wasn't realized yet, because it is technically impossible ATM, or perhaps, because philosophical implications! That's what I mean. While it is not likely that something like GR, or Evolution will change any time soon. Still can we ultimate know the truth, that is the question!

So even if light is absorbed. E.g. as thermal energy. Is it still light? As: Can light change back and forth to matter, or not? EDIT: Or rather from mass to massless and in opposite? As I again forget about energy being property of particles. I was interested: if you could e.g. make light from a person and if he would stay light forever. This is obviously very hypothetical, even impossible probably for long time. If it was possible like in 50 years, I would go for it perhaps But even light probably doesn't stay light all time, or it is not convertible - no idea!

That is soo naive! I am very open-minded. I almost never come to definitive conclusions, if I can't prove something empirically, or at least by logic! I know - science is not concerned with finding a proof. And basic premises of any theory could be wrong. It is just some theory, which fits all data best and is accepted in scientific circles... Lately scientists themselves attack Inflation and some scientists called other scientists - uncritical believers: https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/09/28/is-the-inflationary-universe-a-scientific-theory-not-anymore/?sh=581a72acb45e E.g. materialism can be false! Everything is un-provable, but also irrefutable (at least from current understanding so you don't crucify me )! Except: I think, therefore I am. And I leave my opinions open to a change!

Hahaha. How is it irrational??? Even Nietzsche engaged in this idea. We simply don't know that. Prove it is irrational... I mean: I appreciate it. But what you said doesn't disprove eternal return! Or explain how so!

Wait what? I am not sure where you are heading with this... Not before I wrote it and put it there. And how would I even know, if I found that in last iteration of the universe?

But is there anything possibly anyone could do to avoid eternal recurrence? Even highly theoretically, because probably there isn't!

So that means, we don't know if light experiences time? Sorry, I can't believe myself, that I wrote matter again What is then distinction between matter and energy? Ultimate question was: is there anything, we could ever do to stop eternal recurrence? Or avoid experiencing time? Also even light can be turned into heat energy and then it could experience time - don't know!

I knew about energy and matter being essentially the same thing. I don't know enough about subject to formally describe it. And why distinction is even made, if that is so... Point is: that light does not experience time! I don't know exactly why! But if matter equals energy, then particles are energy. Yet there is a distinction! Light e.g. is said: to not experience time. I don't remember, if this can be said only about light, or same is true about energy. That's why I asked! I read only matter can experience time. But how is that so: if matter equals energy?

To clarify: only reason I even answered to that topic... was to ask: if anyone could do anything to escape this! But I highly doubt it... It was not philosophical! I just wanted to know (this would be highly theoretical) if there is possibly an escape!!! For example: energy doesn't experience time! But even if you made yourself into energy: it wouldn't help necessarily, because energy can be turned back into matter!

What? I never said that! I meant: what you said is simply not true! Maybe I should have been more specific, since you don't understand. But I thought: you simply wanted to cheer me up, by making it sound like it is not true, or something... Which implies a possibility! I never said that it is not true! Or it is true! At least if my memory is not failing me. I said: even possibility of it being true is hell and that's it! Because what if it is true???

Thanks for trying to cheer me up, but I am unfortunately too of a logical person for this to work. And I know: this is simply not true... I COULD BE WRONG AND I MIGHT AS WELL BE RIGHT! AS IT IS NOT PROOVABLE, BUT ALSO IRREFUTABLE! WE DON'T KNOW IF IT IS TRUE, OR NOT!!! WE DON'T KNOW!!! WE DON'T KNOW!!! WE JUST DON'T KNOW... WARNING: NO PERSON SHOULD EVER KNOW THIS:

I don't understand you guys - how don't you have extreme depression?! This is not completely true. I sorta do, 86% of population is religions, people have innate defensive mechanisms. And most of people have positive illusions and don't see the world: how it truly is! And lie to themselves. Fact is - life is hell!!! https://aeon.co/essays/the-voice-of-sadness-is-censored-as-sick-what-if-its-sane I am troubled by this idea of Eternal Return long time. Read spoiler for more info: I am warning you - Extremely depressive (no human being should ever know about this) read for you own risk!!! E.g. Nihilism is not a choice, or philosophy, it simply arrives! This is similar, you may have defense mechanisms right now, but even thinking about this can totally change you forever! Even if you already knew about it, I don't think most people fully realize/admit consequences...

LOL people's answers here. There is no inherent purpose to the universe, at least as far as we know! There are many philosophies like absurdism: people are inherently trying to find a purpose in the meaningless world, which creates the absurd! Or existentialism, of which basic premise is, that we make our own purpose. At the end it doesn't really matter, we are nothing, we can't change anything! So either you can kill yourself, or just enjoy life, anything else would be stupid...

https://covid.postera.ai/covid is non-profit organization, their research is free of intellectual property - they share it with scientific community and everyone with scientific knowledge can design a molecule! It is being crowdsourced to public, using shared computing FAH@Home. So you can crunch on your PC! I am sick of pharma corporations and their patents, Biden said he will do something - perphaps... They get funding mainly from philanthropy and bootstrap grants. Public can donate, but they got only 46k out of 2M so far News is there are ready to test most 500 promising compounds on animals - can't find where i read it... But they don't have as high funding, probably won't be sooner, than other vaccines. But still if some vaccine wouldn't be good, or country would decide not to share it... That's what has been happening in Russia e.g. which was not tested well and crap probably anyways so They have powerful installation using X-Rays to study biology of the virus at microscopic level: https://test.foldingathome.org/2020/05/28/the-covid-moonshot/

Well i meant exact behavior like that. I have 46 posts dude, while i registered here like 4 years ago? I have ADHD, but i don't create posts to bother people. I have high respect to scientists! Only one topic was moven, as far as i know from me... No hard feelings, just don't suppose i am doing that... It is like i don't know little bit discriminating, but i understand your concern.

Yeah i agree - didn't read all. But these all seem like pretty logical things! I love how these forums are relaxed and anyone here can post anywhere without having to worry about censoring. Which is less comfortable for pros, so i can appreciate that. You will just move topic, if it is not correct... Because sometimes, these people could be right, i saw here interesting ideas from layman people once, or twice I like these forums 👍 Generally: - Probably most prevalent is, when people have incorrect understanding of something like: a basis and post incorrect things from there, which happens. Or they are just asking if not sure. - Or if they are called wrong, they go full copium mode (we learn from our mistakes) - Sometimes people can't even agree on a basic idea. And than they use different arguments - they know and don't know how stay on the subject. And than discussions diverges more like to argument exchange, than constructive discussion or becomes irrelevant to the subject. Because it is difficult sometimes, when tackling complex issues. Or it is issue with some people... For me: - My main issue is expression (have ADHD), i understand something well in my brain, but having trouble organize huge texts and present my arguments well... -Sometimes you use something in some context, or as example, even it is not meant literally. But no one probably bothers, like after every world, specify that as a fact/theory/hypothesis/opinion and what not. When it should be apparent from context, but when tackling complex issues, it is easy to misinterpret something. - I hate when i say something, in a wrong way. Because after you say that, than it is too late to change that, even if you explain that in next post. I improve my ideas gradually, i just will say everything i think, even it gets confusing many times If something is not correct, i will accept it and move on, unless i have good reasons to think - it is correct. So i want to keep idea a least bit yet, unless proven otherwise. Problem is some things are vague - hard to prove! - I don't know, but i have feeling sometimes: people don't take you seriously, if you don't have PHD from that area. Who ever learnt anything in school anyways ? And discard your opinions too quickly, even when they are based on the facts etc. Or just because you were wrong about 1 thing, they discard other things. Or they don't listen well, dunno... But i think, most of people here are great! Even i don't post here often, so it is whatever. Just saying my opinion...

I get you, i don't say i agree with you completely, or with people here in everything. But i see your point. It is a complex issue, if discussion continued, this could go on forever As some things are very hard to pinpoint, or claim with 100% certainty. Because there are so many individuals, hard to explain everything in current age! May i recommend some tesla, or https://fabiusmaximus.com/ Also 2 things i recall may interest you: look at glass ceiling, glass elevator theories. Once you start it is rabbit hole! Ignorance is the bliss! Obviously don't trust one source and question everything But it may give you more ideas etc. Seems like intelligent site. You can find there a lot of topics, like gender wars, feminism and such. Also one thing to remember - you can't predict behavior of an individual. But when considering behavior of masses, you can tell with high probability what would happen sometimes. Google some stats on scholar.google.com and some interesting studies. Which may give you some more perspective. Also steer clear away from mainstream opinions, or isolated groups and communities like the red pill subreddit - there are some people there, which are polite and just want to discuss things constructively and want to know the truth, but also a lot of toxic people. There are a lot of myths in society. Not everything what you heard is true, it is probably the opposite. Also these myths are creating the reality how it is! Because people's behavior is affected by a culture greatly!!! Forget everything what you heard and think critically for yourself! Also good thing how to understand genders is an experience, but you would have to travel a lot and still you will have small pool of people - you will meet. I agree societies were dominated mostly by men thorough history: In ancient-medieval age, yes there were societies like amazons (dominated by woman) and some matriarchal societies, i don't know this fact from head. But i doubt they were big enough, probably mostly minority somewhere, or isolated societies. Even vikings had shield maidens and women, which fought alongside man. It was probably minority, majority of armies were males. Even we don't know for sure, because don't have enough sources back than, so it is hard to know for sure. Why is that? Because roles, men were hunter gatherers and women since they were making babies, they cared about them and took care about base So men are naturally stronger, because they hunt etc. But woman eat for 2. I saw some theories, that's why they have less of a mass. Also there are 2 important distinctions in influences (someone said that already): there is biology and than there are social constructs. Some customs, which were created by a culture arguably have higher impact, than a biology. Also our brains are still wired from the stone-age - say scientists. There are many variations in biology, something from both (whether race is men, or women dominated). So for example: like in 60s you can say societies were dominated by man for sure, i don't even want to mention it, because it is disgusting from what i heard. So there is no wonder women are very angry now Also in women and men - brain doesn't differ that much as you would think - scientist say. Yes there are small differences like reading a map. IQ wise, yes there is like: 4 times more (don't remember exactly) of men with high IQ, than women. And don't know if this is actual. But that may be, because women couldn't even get to universities in 20s and didn't engage in stuff men did, so they didn't train their brain for the same things. It is similar thing, in medieval age - there were probably some farmers with intelligence of genius. But they couldn't engage in science and stuff, so their potential was unrealized. Some studies says: women IQ is higher on average currently. But IQ is not that precise measurement, especially in some tests for masses, intelligence is very complex. Tho on a high scale like that, it probably says something. Inequality: yes genders were never equal. We evolved to survive, so how we are and what we do should increase our fitness. If it was best way to survive, chances are we evolved into that. Does that mean both genders are fair and have to suffer the same? No! In stone-age sex would happen forcefully. And men forced their will on women, even in middle-ages. But you have to also understand people are more complex, than animals. We evolved into a society and we don't act only based on instincts anymore, we are still evolving after all. So we can change that. It is not reasonable to want 100% equality, because that is not even possible in practical environment. But there shouldn't be huge differences either and oppressed genders in a modern society. I would just delete completely distinction and call everyone just people and treat them fair like anyone else... Even both genders have specific problems, but you should take them as a whole - that's what i mean. And both genders have both disadvantages from a biological perspective and from a culture - what is expected from them etc. And are not still equal. Tho huge constraint to equality is culture and bias in society, which spreads. I also think you are right in equality, if both genders were completely same, we wouldn't like each other. But we as whole are one race and need to cooperate for survival mostly, even it will be always who from whom... And individual vs individual is also completely different, than whole. Now women can enjoy more freedom, than ever, because feminism and democracy etc. Former is very stupid idea and causing problems for both of genders and gender wars. Also i don't understand why some jobs forcing to have exactly 50/50 population of men/women. Didn't it occur to them, that's because women are interested in other things that men and it is not only because inequality? Social justice warriors are stupidest people i ever saw. Completely devoid of any logic what so ever, iq 30.. Hope this helps.