ernst39 Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Without measurable properties it CANNOT influence anything. This is basic physics that any first year student understands. The gravitational field, this is the macroscopic manifestation of g-information, has measurable properties and intermediates in gravitational interactions between masses, it makes interaction possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The gravitational field, this is the macroscopic manifestation of g-information How do informitons or g-information manifest themselves as a gravitational field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robittybob1 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 How do informitons or g-information manifest themselves as a gravitational field? It would have to warp space-time in someway wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 It would have to warp space-time in someway wouldn't it? Why are you asking me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robittybob1 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Why are you asking me? Ultimately that is the answer. Even Einstein never really explained how mass resulted in gravity. OK he proposed this change in space-time but how did it happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Ultimately that is the answer. Even Einstein never really explained how mass resulted in gravity. OK he proposed this change in space-time but how did it happen? Again, why is this directed at me? if you have questions or comments directed at the thread starter, address them to him. I'm not the one that needs to be convinced that the idea presented here is bogus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) The gravitational field, this is the macroscopic manifestation of g-information, has measurable properties and intermediates in gravitational interactions between masses, it makes interaction possible. According to you g information has no energy or momentum. Regardless of whether or not it is quantum or macroscopic. It takes energy to exert a force. Without energy you exert zero force. So explain how something that has no energy breaks this law? In order to measure something you must have energy, momentum, charge etc. You cannot measure information as information is not a property of matter or energy. When you gather information about mass or energy your gathering one,or several of the above properties. Not information itself This includes fields. Fields are ultimately comprised of particles. You can often describe its average properties to avoid describing each particle. However your still describing properties contained from particles. Just averaged. This includes the ideal gas laws. Pressure and vacuum are an average of particle interactions. When your describing a vacuum or pressure you have either potential or kinetic energy. Your infotons do not have energy. So how can it possibly exert an influence. It takes energy to cause a change in wavefunction, momentum or acceleration. Without energy it cannot change anything gravitational or electromagnet. Edited March 29, 2015 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernst39 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Again, why is this directed at me? if you have questions or comments directed at the thread starter, address them to him. I'm not the one that needs to be convinced that the idea presented here is bogus. It's apparently impossible for mainstream physics to see something positive in theories that start from a different vison on space and time . I repeat: my starting point is that space and time are not elements of nature, but elements of our thinking about nature. I cannot prove this, any more as I can prove the contrary. As all theories, the theory presented here is the result of an intellectual game. My reasonings and deductions are consistently within my ideas about space and time. They are "bogus" within other frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypervalent_iodine Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 It's apparently impossible for mainstream physics to see something positive in theories that start from a different vison on space and time . I repeat: my starting point is that space and time are not elements of nature, but elements of our thinking about nature. I cannot prove this, any more as I can prove the contrary. As all theories, the theory presented here is the result of an intellectual game. My reasonings and deductions are consistently within my ideas about space and time. They are "bogus" within other frames. ! Moderator Note In other words, you don't have a theory at all, you have an idea that you plucked out of nowhere with no basis. You were told to provide evidence and since you can't or won't, I am closing this pending further review. Do not attempt to reopen it. ! Moderator Note Edit: staff have decided this will stay closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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