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is it true that science is consistent with all buddhist teachings?


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#21 Prometheus

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 09:55 PM

The one give the approx. time of the beginning of this current Climate change event. 

 

To assist our understanding maybe you could narrow it down to this one specific claim.

 

Could you please quote and link to the section that gives the approximate date of this event and could you provide the resources needed for us to convert the dates from whatever calendar was used 2000 thousands years ago in India to the Gregorian calendar?


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 01:28 AM

Again that time ten million buddhas equaling the grains of sand in ten great oceans taught this sutra container Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one melody.

Again that time 25 ten-million buddhas taught this sutra container Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one melody.

Again that time 65 ten-million buddhas taught this sutra container Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one melody.

Again that time 77 ten-million buddhas taught this sutra container Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one melody.

Again that time, 84 ten-million (840,000,000) buddhas taught this sutra container Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one melody.

Again that time 99 ten-million (990,000,000) buddhas taught this sutra container3 Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one melody.

 

Again that time 55 ten-million buddhas taught this sutra container Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one voice.   
Again that time 45 ten-million buddhas taught this sutra container Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one voice.
Again that time 36 ten-million buddhas taught this sutra container Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one voice.

 

100,000,000 a    Extinction approx. Melody
250,000,000 a C   Permian extinction approx. Melody
360,000,000 b    Extinction approx  Voice
450,000,000 b    Extinction approx  Voice
550,000,000 b   Voice
650,000,000 a   Melody
770,000,000 a   Melody
840,000,000 a   Melody
990,000,000 a   Melody

 

4.96 Billion yrs ago- age of solar System to the moment
"a"=3.6 Billion yrs ago- approx time frame of "life" "cellular" on Earth (start)
"b"=1.36 Billion yrs ago- approx climate change beginning
1.16 Billion yrs Extinction

C   "Writing or letting others write this sutra container of Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom is like letting the person write the 84,000 teachings of Buddha and consecrating them." + " A thousand buddhas will stretch out their arms" = 84 Million, it deals with the ice ages, geological time and crust removal.  Natural time frame of Earths destruction.

 

These are in Billions of years, even changing from the Gregorian to the Tibetan (Current year 2144) would have no impact.

The Melody numbers should be in Binary.

Also says the Milky Way Galaxy has four arms and you can get the rough dimensions, but the size is ever-changing.


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 08:55 AM

As you can't even do arithmetic correctly, I see no reason to take this seriously.


They have been Validated by Science. 

 

 

Please show where science has studied and confirmed your claims.


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 01:45 PM

As you can't even do arithmetic correctly, I see no reason to take this seriously.


 

What is the arithmetic not correct to you, So One can remove that ignorance, maybe it's the word problem of "C" which is missing a couple of keys that unlock sutra's so that The Chinese Government would not get what is hidden.

or maybe it the word problems like "Again that time 36 ten-million buddhas taught this sutra container Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one voice." Break this down.

It's Not 36 + 10,000,000.  That phrase has a "Check" in it.  "one intention and in one voice" or 1+1=2 or 2 places after 10,000,000, so if it was 10,000,036 it would not hold to the "Check". Now you could say "That check isn't right to fulfill 360,000,000".  The "key" is "one intention" or 10,000,000, so all the numbers are multiplied by 10,000,000.  36 x 10,000,000 = 360,000,000 or 3(1 place)6(1 place)0,000,000.

 

To combine the sets, Melody goes with Melody, and Voice goes with Voice.  For "C" you need to know the Fundamental Laws that govern Emptiness.  One of those laws, a person named Einstein, was looking for the Law of Interdependence (Unified Field Theory).  It's the Law that connects all existence.  There is another Law, known as Karma (Cause and Effect), it's a common law in Physics.  Those that don't believe in Karma, is like saying "Since you do not believe in Karma (Cause and Effect) that when you push a ball it will Not move."

 

The confirmation of the claims, watch the Buddhist Nations, Science and Technology will advance beyond Non-Buddhist Nations.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 07:49 AM

What is the arithmetic not correct to you

 

 

You say:

 

"Again that time ten million buddhas ..." = 100 million 

"Again that time 25 ten-million buddhas" =  250 million

 

If ten-buddhas = 100, then 25 x ten-buddhas = 2,500.

 

I have no idea why ten million buddhas equals 100 millions years. It implies a buddha only lasts 10 years.

 

 

 

4.96 Billion yrs ago- age of solar System to the moment

 

Citation needed.

 

One that shows this is exactly ("to the moment") correct. Not one that says "about 5 billion years".

 

And where does 4.96 appear in you list of nice round numbers?

 

 

 

250,000,000 a C   Permian extinction approx. Melody

 

So we go from "to the moment" to "approximately". 

 

So it isn't 250,000,000, it is about 252 million years ago.

 

Typical of numerologists to round things up to match their voodoo.  Or maybe you are posting this 2 million years too late. 

 

 

The Melody numbers should be in Binary.

 

Why should they be in binary?

 

And why not write them in binary?

 

And what difference would the way you write them make?


 

 

There is another Law, known as Karma (Cause and Effect), it's a common law in Physics.  Those that don't believe in Karma, is like saying "Since you do not believe in Karma (Cause and Effect) that when you push a ball it will Not move."

 

This is a logical fallacy. Confirming the antecedent, I think.

 

 

The confirmation of the claims, watch the Buddhist Nations, Science and Technology will advance beyond Non-Buddhist Nations.

 

 

When?


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#26 Jampelyang

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 04:01 PM

The word Buddha = 10

But when you read words, you see words, when something doesn't fit your Bias, it's wrong and that's Ego.

The Melody is for the Kalachakra, it's in Binary for a 256 sided shape or a Unoeigth, when Pi repeats, due to the law of interdependence, 1 side of the 256 sided shape is interconnected to 255 sides, you can convert 256 bit= 255 + 1 in binary or 100000000, now you should see that number as a Melody number. The Kalachakra is multi-dimensional.

 

You can go search this:  Bodhisattva's know number systems.

 

If you are a Buddhist, you should know what the following means, if not, the Vatican knows, ask them:  In the Land of the Kalachara, within the Kingdom of Shambala over the Three Realms One sits.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 06:58 PM

The word Buddha = 10

 

 

Why?

 

In that case "25 ten-million buddhas" means 25 x 10,000,000 x 10 = 2,500,000,000 (not 250,000,000)

 

 

 

The Melody is for the Kalachakra, it's in Binary for a 256 sided shape or a Unoeigth, when Pi repeats, due to the law of interdependence, 1 side of the 256 sided shape is interconnected to 255 sides, you can convert 256 bit= 255 + 1 in binary or 100000000, now you should see that number as a Melody number. The Kalachakra is multi-dimensional.

 

That doesn't make much sense.

 

And as Pi does not repeat, it is wrong.

 

And you still haven't explained why expression a number in binary would make any difference. It is still the same number.

 

 

You can go search this:  Bodhisattva's know number systems.

 

If you can't be bothered to explain, I can't be bothered to find out. Which of us is more lazy?


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 10:28 PM

You can go search this:  Bodhisattva's know number systems.

 

If you are a Buddhist, you should know what the following means, if not, the Vatican knows, ask them:  In the Land of the Kalachara, within the Kingdom of Shambala over the Three Realms One sits.

 

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:54 PM

The OP asked about compatibility between all Buddhist teaching and Science.

This implies that there is no Buddhist teaching incompatible with science.

 

A claim was made in post#16 that a certain buddhist sutra over 2000 year ago offered quantum mechanics, amongst other scientific things and a non English reference was offered following reuqest in post#18.

 

I found a translation and posted a small part in post#20.

This makes the snake oil claim that if you hear the sutra 108 times your life will increase.

 

This runs completely against the claim of any science and thereby answers the OP that the answer to the OP question is

 

No Buddhism is not generally compatible with Science, even if some of it is.

 

I have received no response to this observation.


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#30 Jampelyang

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Posted 20 May 2017 - 12:59 PM

Should begin at the Root.  A Sutra is written for all capacities, meaning "everyone is at a different level of understanding" or "Not everyone is a rocket scientist".  So the Sutras that relate to Science have parts in them that help in the preservation of the text, like "if you hear the sutra 108 times your life will increase.", since from the beginning the fear of death was present.  When you read anything, you are reading it from your perspective, not the perspective of the writer.  When the Sutra was fully translated, it was over 35 pages long about a year ago.  That translation was given to the two Tenzins, one being the Dalai Lama, they would've looked through and given to the Scientist they speak with with.  Now the Dalai Lama has said the Kalachakra deals with Quantum Physics. Now Buddhist oppose this because then Buddhism either becomes Philosophy or Science and there is no Freedom. The translation of these Sutras are not simple, otherwise they would've been fully translated hundreds of years ago.  Why is One able to translate them?  To the two Tenzins and other Throne holders, One is known as The Medicine Buddha Manjushri.  But most think Buddha's are mythical.  To fully unlock the Sutras linked to the Kalachakra you need a symbol, that symbol is naturally on One's Left Palm.  With both palms together and turned like a wheel it creates the "Seal of Solomon".  Now you'll want proof, proof was sent to the Vatican last year. There is an old saying "People are not afraid to ask questions, they are afraid of the answers."  People have been looking to define Life or Life with a Soul, you should remember you are not the Only Life that has Consciousness or a Soul.

 

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Again that time, 84 ten-million (840,000,000) buddhas taught this sutra container Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one melody.

Again that time 99 ten-million (990,000,000) buddhas taught this sutra container3 Unfathomable Life and Transcendental Wisdom with one intention and in one melody.

 

The (840,000,000) and (990,000,000) are the previous translation.

 

 

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Posted 20 May 2017 - 01:23 PM

One will not speak again on these forums.

 

 

Good. Because this is a science forum and you clearly know nothing about science. We don't welcome this sort of ignorant preaching.


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