Thread Hijack - "when you still cant sleep at all for weeks, life is hell."

[krash661]

try marijuana.

[fresh]

try marijuana.

you try first and tell me how you feel.

[krash661]

you try first and tell me how you feel.

I have been a user since 98.

i'm a daily user.

i smoke it after my day ends.

i feel great and have no sleeping problems.

 

research it, you will find a lot about it medically if you do not know already.

[fresh]

I have been a user since 98.

i'm a daily user.

i smoke it after my day ends.

i feel great and have no sleeping problems.

 

research it, you will find a lot about it medically if you do not know already.

you smoke weed for 15 years ?? i dont take drug; people who care about their family and themselves should not take drug too.

Edited May 13, 2013 by fresh

[krash661]

you smoke weed for 15 years ?? i dont take drug; people who care about their family and himself should not take drug too.

yes for 15 years.

 

well then i would say you believe the propaganda

and are secluded in your thinking.

 

just from curiosity, are you over 18, if not then

forget what i said.

Edited May 13, 2013 by krash661

[fresh]

yes for 15 years.

 

well then i would say you believe the propaganda

and are secluded in your thinking.

 

just from curiosity, are you over 18, if not then

forget what i said.

I believe the propaganda ??

it is not propaganda, but truth. Do you advise your kids/friends to take it as pharmaceutical treatment ?

i never see any benefit of using it every day for years.

how many gram you take daily ?

[StringJunky]

The soporific sleep-inducing effects of marijuana wear off after a while and can actually itself cause insomnia. Like any drug, tolerance increases and you have to take more to get the soporific effect. Don't go down that road fresh. It would probably increase any anxieties you might have. This is gleaned from 22 years almost daily experience. I've rarely had it in the last 11 years. Anybody that takes it now cannot be objective about its long-term effects until it is but a fragment of their memory and have a 'clean' state-of-mind to analyse it from.

[krash661]

I believe the propaganda ??

it is not propaganda, but truth. Do you advise your kids/friends to take it as pharmaceutical treatment ?

i never see any benefit of using it every day for years.

how many gram you take daily ?

well then i would say you believe the propaganda.

and are secluded in your thinking.

 

what is truth ?

it's a drug?,

well then what does that mean ?

does that mean it's bad for you or is it bad because government thinks so,(but with the implications of lobbiest)?

like i said research it.

it's that simple.

 

The soporific sleep-inducing effects of marijuana wear off after a while and can actually itself cause insomnia. Like any drug, tolerance increases and you have to take more to get the soporific effect. Don't go down that road fresh. It would probably increase any anxieties you might have. This is gleaned from 22 years almost daily experience. I've rarely had it in the last 11 years. Anybody that takes it now cannot be objective about its long-term effects until it is but a fragment of their memory and have a 'clean' state-of-mind to analyse it from.

from my personal experience, (that can change from person to person)

this is not true at all.

and also, i supposedly have a serious case of social anxiety disorder, it helps with that.

so once again(for me)the anxiety is not true.

 

most the nay sayers of marijuana are just into the propaganda of it.

 

there are tons of research papers on it globally.

 

i'm not saying go do it or peer pressure, which i'm assuming is being thought since of the comments that are coming from this, i'm saying

just a thought.

[fresh]

I never understand the heavy smokers, not to mention weed-smokers.

i tried so hard to dissuade my grandfather from smoking, but he never listened.

i see how addicted to cigarette he is ! not to mention weed.

You see my point ?

why people take drug ??

[krash661]

I never understand the heavy smokers, not to mention weed-smokers.

i tried so hard to dissuade my grandfather from smoking, but he never listened.

i see how addicted to cigarette he is ! not to mention weed.

You see my point ?

why people take drug ??

the problem with your point is,

it's not the substance that's addicting.

addiction is a response from the human system(body/mind).

 

so again,

it's a drug?,

well then what does that mean ?

does that mean it's bad for you or is it bad because government thinks so,(but with the implications of lobbiest)?

 

i agree with the cigarettes.

i smoke them also, but wish i did not, i just do not have the will power that's needed to quit.

[krash661]

I think something is misunderstood here,

i would like to clear this up.

 

when i said i use everyday,

that is not because of medical reasons, that is because i like it.

 

how many grams a day ?,

1 gram will last me 3-4 days.

 

i just pointed out the effect of it on me, that is considered a good thing.

research it, you will find a lot about it medically,

there are tons of research papers on it globally.

[StringJunky]

I think something is misunderstood here,

i would like to clear this up.

 

when i said i use everyday,

that is not because of medical reasons, that is because i like it.

 

how many grams a day ?,

1 gram will last me 3-4 days.

 

i just pointed out the effect of it on me, that is considered a good thing.

research it, you will find a lot about it medically,

there are tons of research papers on it globally.

How does it's use medically support your use of it recreationally? Morphine has medical use but not really advisable for leisure.is it?

[krash661]

How does it's use medically support your use of it recreationally? Morphine has medical use but not really advisable for leisure.is it?

it doesn't nor have i said it does.

but still i do not believe the propaganda,

i think for my self.

with personal experience and research of easily accessible data,

which is empirical,

i learned something different.

 

now as for the recreational use ( as the morphine example you chose,is more potent and has more of an effect on awareness)you are going to bring in and try some kind of fancy wording of some propaganda,

there's a lot of data on this also.

 

like i said research it.

[StringJunky]

it doesn't nor have i said it does.

but still i do not believe the propaganda,

i think for my self.

with personal experience and research of easily accessible data,

which is empirical,

i learned something different.

 

now as for the recreational use ( as the morphine example you chose,is more potent and has more of an effect on awareness)you are going to bring in and try some kind of fancy wording of some propaganda,

there's a lot of data on this also.

 

like i said research it.

 

Your recurrent use of the word "propaganda^ is clearly indicative of mind locked in an intransigent belief-system, like that of a devoutly religious person. I'm not going to bother trying to alter it because I know its totally futile...change can only come from within, like I did to myself. Anyway, it's no good for fresh's problem..

[krash661]

Your recurrent use of the word "propaganda^

so your knowledge is empirical like mine ?

or is it from what you hear public/media/society ,

with no research on your part?

just some use on your part that maybe not true at all ?

 

all in all, what is your point about this ?

intransigent belief-system

funny because your comments can be classified as so also.

so what is there to consider ?

change can only come from within, like I did to myself. Anyway, it's no good for fresh's problem..

well if you felt it was a problem for you then that's fine, but also,

it does not mean for the rest of humanity it is.

that's secluded thinking.

I'm not going to bother trying to alter it because I know its totally futile..

i'm not sure what gave you the impression that you could,

if anything the attempt you made was more of,

" intransigent belief-system, like that of a devoutly religious person ",

IMO.

Edited May 14, 2013 by krash661

[krash661]

Cannabis (drug)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)

Cannabis, also known as marijuana[2] (from the Mexican Spanish marihuana), and by other names,a[›] is a preparation of the Cannabis plant intended for use as a psychoactive drug and as medicine.[3][4][5] Pharmacologically, the principal psychoactive constituent of cannabis is tetrahydrocannabinol (THC); it is one of 483 known compounds in the plant,[6][7] including at least 84 other cannabinoids, such as cannabidiol (CBD), cannabinol (CBN), tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV).[8][9] and cannabigerol (CBG).

Medical use/Other effects

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)#Medical_use

 

Cannabidiol(CBD)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol

Cannabidiol (CBD) is a cannabinoid found in cannabis. It is a major constituent of the plant, representing up to 40% in its extracts.[2] Compared to THC, cannabidiol is non-psychoactive, and is considered to have a wider scope of medical applications than THC, including to epilepsy,[3] multiple sclerosis spasms,[4] anxiety disorders, schizophrenia,[5] and nausea....

....Medically, it has been shown to relieve convulsion, inflammation, anxiety, and nausea, as well as inhibit cancer cell growth.[8] Recent studies have shown cannabidiol to be as effective as atypical antipsychotics in treating schizophrenia.[9] Studies have also shown that it may relieve symptoms of dystonia.[10][11]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol#Medicinal_use

Cannabinol(CBN)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinol

 

Tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV, THV)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabivarin

 

Cannabigerol (CBG)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabigerol

 

 

Medical cannabis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_marijuana

 

 

this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Edited May 14, 2013 by krash661

[fresh]

Krash661, we dont doubt its medical use at all. what matters is its insomnia treatment.

Do you have any medical evidence/medical theory that marijuana could help insomnia ?

Any withdrawal symptons? If that is the case, why i never heard doctor prescribes marijuana alone to insomniacs ?

By the way, marijuana is not the OTC medicine.

thanks.

Edited May 15, 2013 by fresh

[krash661]

Krash661, we dont doubt its medical use at all. what matters is its insomnia treatment.

Do you have any medical evidence/medical theory that marijuana could help insomnia ?

Any withdrawal symptons? If that is the case, why i never heard doctor prescribes marijuana alone to insomniacs ?

By the way, marijuana is not the OTC medicine.

thanks.

MediCann. Safe. Natural. Medicine.

http://www.medicann.com/cannabis-and-pain-relief/insomnia/

 

WebMD Results for: medical marijuana

http://www.webmd.com/search/search_results/default.aspx?query=medical%20marijuana

 

WebMD

http://forums.webmd.com/3/sleep-disorders-exchange/forum/270

 

TruthOnPot.com

http://www.truthonpot.com/2013/03/30/using-medical-marijuana-for-insomnia/

 

Medical Marijuana Education Center

http://medicalmarijuanaeducationcenter.com/2012/06/05/medical-cannabis-and-insomnia/

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=mariujana+insomnia+treatment&aq=f&oq=mariujana+insomnia+treatment&aqs=chrome.0.57.20307j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=marijuana+insomnia+treatment&spell=1&sa=X&ei=wX6TUaz0M-L1igLf-oFw&ved=0CC8QvwUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46471029,d.cGE&fp=29b4974b4b1d9078&biw=1282&bih=901

 

like i said from the beginning,

 

it's just a thought.

I personally do not like pharmaceuticals.

so this works for some people.

 

it's just a thought,

Edited May 15, 2013 by krash661

[fresh]

Medical cannabis is very beneficial alternative for many patients in the treatment of insomnia.

http://www.medicann.com/cannabis-and-pain-relief/insomnia/

 

Is medical cannabis as same as pure marijuana ?

 

quote from Krash661 : how many grams a day ?,

1 gram will last me 3-4 days.

 

Krash661,,consider you are not a heavy marijuana user,could you stop smoking weed for at least one week,

and see what is your reaction to it ?

Edited May 15, 2013 by fresh

[krash661]

Medical cannabis is very beneficial alternative for many patients in the treatment of insomnia. [/size]

http://www.medicann.com/cannabis-and-pain-relief/insomnia/

 

Is medical cannabis as same as pure marijuana ?

well, in reality,yes

without development from scientist.

natural marijuana is marijuana,

there are 2 types,

1 is cheap(stress)

2 is high end(chronic/kush/all that)

 

it's the high end that was labeled as medical from the beginning, because it has higher potency and percents of cbn's and such.

but for me it all works the same,cheap or high end.

but i prefer the cheap only because of cost and quantity.

but the medical facilities do not even look into cheap it does not exist in the medical marijuana world

 

the difference from marijuana and cannabis.

is nothing more than nationality of words.

Edited May 15, 2013 by krash661

[fresh]

I dont think you will smoke it forever, for it is not for medical use, just for fun.

will you stop using it one day ? you never think of withdrawal symptons ?

how come you are not a heavy smoker after 15 years ?

[krash661]

 

 

 

Krash661,,consider you are not a heavy marijuana user,could you stop smoking weed for at least one week,

and see what is your reaction to it ?

but i am a heavy user.well IMO anyways,

to be honest,

no

i WILL not quit,

i love it to much.

do i want to quit, no.

 

but like i have mentioned before,

addiction is a response from the human system, body and mind, so i'm sure if your brain and body like it, addiction will develop.

that's just how the body and mind works.

 

 

I have gone a couple of days without it,

could i survive, yes,

did i like it, no.

my reaction was not anything really.

except, i guess i have to wait.

i did/do not go crazy or such.

 

 

the effects of it when it comes to addiction,

is no where near heavier drugs or the crap you have heard about it.

 

THC

 

[fresh]

you look in the mirror, do you think you look healthy ?

how about your health ?

do you have cardiovascular disease ? what is your blood pressure ? blood sugar level ?

i can't believe they are all normal .

[krash661]

you look in the mirror, do you think you look healthy ?

how about your health ?

do you have cardiovascular disease ? what is your blood pressure ? blood sugar level ?

i can't believe they are all normal .

but they are.

and no, no cardiovascular.

i walk and such, i exerciser like a normal person and such.

lol i look fine.

 

see you have this whole idea of it, that IMO is very wrong about it.

and i'm not sure where or why you think this,

so again i have to resort to propaganda.

[fresh]

marijuana is illegal.