DevilSolution Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) Okay just toying with a concept, basically id like to create a scale of one thing to another in a ladder type fashion. It doesnt have to be a size ratio necessarily but a basic rule applied to each scale. The basic rule being that the next in line is the accumulation of the aforementioned So, for example: Sub atom < Atom < ??molecule?? < Organism < Animal < Planet < Solar system < Galaxy < Universe Im not sure what would go from Atom through to Animal but i think you get the idea. Im not sure if molecule fits, or whether a macro-organism is separate entity to an organism. Edited May 10, 2013 by DevilSolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krash661 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) this is probably irrelevant but,there's also this,from a facebook page called,from quarks to quasars. Edited May 10, 2013 by krash661 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Elementary particles are the smallest, and then you have the constituents of the nucleus like protons and neutrons. Instead of (or before) organism you might put cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilSolution Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 Elementary particles are the smallest, and then you have the constituents of the nucleus like protons and neutrons. Instead of (or before) organism you might put cell What number would you place on it from 1 being smallest? Also if the first and last were recursive so 0 being smallest? this is probably irrelevant but, there's also this, from a facebook page called, from quarks to quasars. I dont have facebook. Thx though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel123456 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I don't think it would be a good idea to make the scale going through living organisms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekan Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Okay just toying with a concept, basically I'd like to create a scale of one thing to another in a ladder type fashion. It doesn't have to be a size ratio, but a basic rule applied to each scale. The basic rule being that the next in line is the accumulation of the aforementioned. The rungs of the ladder could be: 1A. Quark 1B. Electron 2A. Proton 2B. Neutron. 3. Hydrogen Atom 4. Helium Atom 5. The rest of the atoms in the Periodic Table..... then we climb to sub-rung say, 5.99 then continue: 6. Molecule 7. Dust particle 8. Meteoroid 9. Dwarf planet, or plutoid 8. Major planet 9. Star 10. Interstellar nebula 11. Globular cluster 12. Magellanic Cloud-style dwarf galaxy 13. Milky Way/M31-style major galaxy 14. Local Group-style cluster of galaxies 15. Cluster of clusters 16. Clan (ack P. Anderson "Tau Zero") 17. Universe This ladder is fairly easy to erect. It climbs up by following your basic rule: that each successive rung is an accumulation of the elements of the previous lower rung. However, as michel123456 implies in his post, when the ladder is applied to living organisms, things get more complex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilSolution Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Digging up dirt but i found this link and its GREAT. http://htwins.net/scale2/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel123456 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Digging up dirt but i found this link and its GREAT. http://htwins.net/scale2/ Great. But as much I think about it, that doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Great. But as much I think about it, that doesn't make sense. What doesn't make sense to you? How about this: Powers of Ten 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilSolution Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 Thats trippy, got any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel123456 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 What doesn't make sense to you? How about this: Powers of Ten Nothing makes sense. To speak frankly, if tomorrow I wake up and someone tells me "Michel it was a dream, things are much simpler than that", it would be a relief. Basically I don't understand why we never encounter the same kind of structure twice along the scale. I mean, an atom is not like a planet, and a solar system is not like a galaxy. A planet is not like a huge grain of sand. Secondly I don't understand why it must begin from "fundamental particles" or even worse from "strings". Anyway, from "something" that is made up of nothing smaller. There is something absolute in this that does not go well with relativism. What I would understand is a universe made up of russian dolls, where each doll observes the one above as bigger and the one beneath as smaller, and no end on both sides, only dolls and more dolls till infinite. That is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) Basically I don't understand why we never encounter the same kind of structure twice along the scale. <shrug> no reason why we should. But it make it more interesting this way! What I would understand is a universe made up of russian dolls, where each doll observes the one above as bigger and the one beneath as smaller, and no end on both sides, only dolls and more dolls till infinite. That is not the case. Nature is a bitch. She doesn't care about what you (or I) can understand. Edited November 7, 2013 by Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdEarl Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 And, when you look closely, nature has put things together in beautiful, often surprising, ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel123456 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 As a side note to the powers of ten The distance is 10 times larger in each sequence. Which means that the surface as represented is multipled by hundred, and the volume by thousand. The videos begins with the blanket (a 2D surface) that grows a hundred times in each step (and not 10 times), then the video shows the 3D universe and the spectator takes the impression that woaw the power of ten is very powerful, but as volume the image we take corresponds to an increase of thousand not of ten. When you increase the side of a cube 10 times, the volume is increased by 1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilSolution Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Its squared, not the power of 10, but the concept is the same regardless. Im gona throw a spanner in the works; Were using base 10 (decimal) as the root system here and it doesnt recur, is there any base system where the scale would recur, duodecimal for example. Or is there any scientific data on this?? By the squared process. Infact there must be, so what is it?? Edited November 9, 2013 by DevilSolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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