Radical Edward Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 where? I don't see any planets being ejected... and certainly nothing in the method that you describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 11, 2002 Author Share Posted August 11, 2002 Those star systems are spinning very fast, and objects ejected have a high velocity. The core in that first photo, would be of a sun sized object (or bigger). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 the one that says: 'The Radio Galaxy Cygnus A' underneath it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 11, 2002 Author Share Posted August 11, 2002 Yes, the core is ejected by the jet. Below that are some pic of the same core but broken down into smaller time intervals, until you just have a picture of the ejected core. This core material, is massive in size, and it is ejected from the nuclei of the mother body's gas mass , because the nuclei of the mother body becomes too positively charged, due to the continued loss of radiated electrons. The mother body ejects matter (positive charge) to become stable again. Our Sun goes through this process to make planets, except it is not so highly spinning, so the planets do not move so far out so quickly. But those are amazing pictures, of stellar bodies millions of light years away from Earth Also on that site is the pic of a stylistic depiction of the ether of magnetism's lines of force and how charged particles interact with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 you're supposed to sit on your arse, not talk out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 12, 2002 Author Share Posted August 12, 2002 Sound like you got something up it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzilla Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 Amusing as this is .... I don't think that elementary particles can seriously be counted as complete planets. Particles = small Planet = big The only thing that gives birth to a planet is a large accretion disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 Originally posted by Zarkov Sound like you got something up it ! I was making a point. you aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 At such high energies it is hard to assume the expulsions would be more than gaseous until they lost enough energy to finally start to aggregate. At such distances it would make sense that the particles would probably disperse instead. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 12, 2002 Author Share Posted August 12, 2002 No Aman, it is actual core material that is ejected. With a radiating body (spherical pressure system) it is loosing electrons....in space, an insulated condition! As the build up of charge in the bodies nucleus increases it becomes unstable and deforms against the forces of spin, Once deformed the spin aids in expulsion of positively charged excess CORE. With the Earth, we RECEIVE electrons from the Sun. Our system of ejection is similar but we are a spherical density system, so we accumulate negative charge, and given time we eject most probably mantle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Do you mean it takes planet sized dumps?:toilet: I still wouldn't call it a planet until it fixes in an orbit. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Zarkov, there are many problems with that method you have proposed. I can't even be bothered to go into them. sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 13, 2002 Author Share Posted August 13, 2002 That little dot of a core could have been as big as a number of our solar systems! just a few megaparsecs across of positively charged matter. Ejections from high spin objects generally move a long way out and slowly form an orbit. Ejections from a low speed spin become orbital quickly. The lower the spin, the closer the stabolised orbit is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Zarkov, there still are many problems with that method you have proposed. I still can't even be bothered to go into them. sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 13, 2002 Author Share Posted August 13, 2002 No, RadE , I can't be bothered with General Relativity, or classical cosmology, either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 There is evidence of a pushing force in nature. I read of an experiment near the White Cliffs of Dover. A reasearch team on a ship calculated the gravitational pull of this enormous mass on one side of them and it stayed constant as they approached but when they reached a certain threshold the pull decreased by a measurable level. They theorized they were seeing evidence of Einsteins lambda force which repels as masses reach a certain limit of proximity. It keeps everything from collapsing into black holes So we see masses pulling with gravity and repelling with lambda force up close. Just my two bits. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 13, 2002 Author Share Posted August 13, 2002 Aman, I am now starting to realise gravity is 3 forces (a) magnetic (b) electric © spin gravity, which is an interaction of the obove and spin The only one left out of this is matter, and this is the vehicle that all of the above affect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 The forces of nature we count on are all knit together except in the cosoms where there may be a singular explanation. We are learning a lot through experimation and observation and the forces follow rules in our relative existance. I agree that gravity may be a combination or effect of other microcosom forces but it seems to always exhibit the property of attraction. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 14, 2002 Author Share Posted August 14, 2002 Yea, mate, gravity is attraction, it's obvious, just as obvious as the Sun goes around the Earth, everyday... Oh yea you say, but I see it everyday.....IT GOES around the EARTH, damn it !!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 14, 2002 Author Share Posted August 14, 2002 http://www.ufonasa.com/tether.htm Look at this site. Back in 1996 the astronauts let out a long conducting tether, so that it would cut the magnetic lines of force and generate electricity. Well it worked, but burnt out! Three days later, with the tether miles away, "flying saucers" were seen around the tethers !! These weren't flying saucers, they were induced spin gravity vorticies!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 14, 2002 Author Share Posted August 14, 2002 Actually if you explore that site you will see ignorant references to "spiral gravity waves", and UFO's. These can all be explained by spin gravity, even the "crop circles / spirals" :) good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzilla Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 It's been proven about fifty different ways that 'spin gravity' can't explain anything, because it doesn't follow the observed universe in any way whatsoever at any point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 there still isn't any maths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 A spin gravity vortice should be easily producable here on Earth considering the fields they were working with in space. I don't see it happening or else we would have flying discs all around us. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarkov Posted August 14, 2002 Author Share Posted August 14, 2002 Remember it was viewed from above, and it was in the UV range of emissions. Rad E I have worked out the maths! they all obey the 1/r^2 rule as observed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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