Daedalus Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I definitely want wings like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 There's quite a lot of people currently arguing that the video is faked. I have no idea -- it seems like quite a lot of effort to go to, given the many videos he's produced, and for little possible marketing gain -- but let's not get our hopes up quite so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appolinaria Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hmm.. Not so sure about this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I definitely want wings like this: You and your kids would probably end up flying too close to the sun, they'd melt and you'd be in the ocean.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 You and your kids would probably end up flying too close to the sun, they'd melt and you'd be in the ocean.... Poor Icarus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPanic Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 First of all, a mainstream Dutch newspaper claims it's real. Second of all, some other website already claims it's fake (note that the newspaper linked to the claim that it is fake). These are Dutch guys (funny language, isn't it?), and the newspaper gave some more background on the invention: A free translation of what I read: - It's not human powered. The creators publicly agree that a human's arms are not strong enough. - It is powered by modern lightweight actuators (linear electric motors). - The flapping of the arms is because the actuators are controlled by two Nintendo Wii controllers. - An HTC phone is used as a gyroscope, and it is hacked so it can receive the info from the Wii controllers. But with only two wings, no flaps on the wings, and no tail, I have no idea what it would control. Personally, I am not yet completely won over. I have three issues: Control Without any tail, or flaps on the wings, or a method to change the pitch of the entire wing, there is no control. Speed vs. wing size The speed in the video seems much too low for such small wings (the aerial shot, looking at the ground suggests the speed is about 5 m/s). Human powered aircraft have flown at such low speeds as well, but they had much larger wings. Crappy video The video is crappy, shaky, and someone is blocking the view at the exact moment of landing. FFS, buy a tripod, and keep everyone out of the way. Also, invite the media. Until then, I call it fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Control Without any tail, or flaps on the wings, or a method to change the pitch of the entire wing, there is no control. I noticed the same thing, but it does seem as though he didn't need much control for this flight. He climbed when he flapped, he made no turns, and when he stopped flapping he lost altitude. I would like to have seen the footage from the ground camera shooting the entire flight, without all the editing between that and the helmet camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPanic Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I noticed the same thing, but it does seem as though he didn't need much control for this flight. He climbed when he flapped, he made no turns, and when he stopped flapping he lost altitude. True. It looks like he's going in a simple straight line... except for the aerial camera shot, where there is a pond to the right, trees straight ahead and just lots of objects to avoid in general. For such a flight, you want to have some sort of control. Do you think controlled flight can be achieved with just a few actuators, Wii controllers, a gyroscope, a human brain, and some flappy wings? Even the Wright brothers decided to have a rudder, and some flaps of some sort (surfaces that can move to adjust flight). And they had a much simpler structure (no flapping), and also a very short flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Do you think controlled flight can be achieved with just a few actuators, Wii controllers, a gyroscope, a human brain, and some flappy wings? He should be able to bank right or left by flapping just the opposite arm, shouldn't he? The extra lift on that side would create a turn, but I'm with you, I would want much more control even if I didn't gain much altitude. Actually, I'd want more responsive control at that height because I wouldn't have much time before hitting the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joatmon Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 The first thing I notice is that he lifts himself into the air without using anything but his arms. The second thing I notice is the steepness with which he climbs. If he actually did fly through the air for a short time I wonder if he was winched up in the same manner as gliders are launched. I have looked hard but cannot see a cable - but that could be edited out. Some time ago a man powered aircraft called Gossamer Albatross successfully flew but took much leg power to get off the ground and climb very gradually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPanic Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Well, this one is solved. It's fake. Flying Dutchman blijkt Lying Dutchman: filmpje inderdaad hoax That's a Dutch newspaper headline, but I think there are enough English words for most of you to understand what it means. The creators of the youtube movie admitted that it was a joke, meant to inspire people. They said so themselves on Dutch TV, in a particularly popular show at prime time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 The creators of the youtube movie admitted that it was a joke, meant to inspire people. Why do I not feel inspired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the asinine cretin Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 This makes me so pissed. What a bozo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Damn those lying dutchmen... I guess it's up to me to make a video of my sons and I flying with wings made of wax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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