Ophiolite Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Two orbits, with five people, at an altitude above 400kms, to be repeated within sixty days. The first flight can simply demonstrate the ability to take five people i.e. pilot, plus ballast. The second flight must carry at least five. http://www.space.com/spacenews/businessmonday_bigelow_041108.html It must be completed by Jan 10, 2010. Unlike the X-prize this is only open to US residents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossoi Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 This seems to be a slightly sad attempt by America to beat the Russians once again. Why not open this competition to the world in the interests of technological development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 well, providing you have the money just make a space shutte which can be re-fuelled mid flight. it would not be practical to use on a daily scale but would win you the prize! however, for $50m can you really develop / build / run a space ship and still make a decent profit????? i think not, but maybe im wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Only for US residents? I was just about to go to Moon with a sugar rocket. "however, for $50m can you really develop / build / run a space ship and still make a decent profit????? i think not, but maybe im wrong!" Put a Coca-Cola banner on your rocket and there comes your sponsor money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Only for US residents I hate that damned phrase on damned competitions. Damn them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeTraveler Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I agree, that really disapoints me. NASA's lack of interest/involvment (although based upon its political structure) also bothers me. Its like being back to square one all over again, just with a new goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolecularMan14 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I hate that damned phrase on damned competitions. Damn them! hell, Id be impressed with whoever creates something capable of that, no matter where they live! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 "hell, Id be impressed with whoever creates something capable of that, no matter where they live!" The 50 million just might help a Chinese engineer group to do that. "International" is the word of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 however' date=' for $50m can you really develop / build / run a space ship and still make a decent profit????? i think not, but maybe im wrong![/quote'] Nobody is doing it for the prize. The prize will just off-set the cost of doing it. I don’t see why you guys would consider this a 'sad' attempt considering the company sponsoring the prize no doubt has the money and somebody will eventually win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossoi Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 "Sad" as in America closing it's doors on international entries under the guise of needing it's own rocket as the Russians are charging them too much for the use of Soyuz. Reading between the lines this looks like an attempt to catch up in the space race again (since the problems with the Shuttle) at the cost of International relations and possibly the quality of the product. America's favourite toy is broken, he won't share with any of the other boys so he wants a new one all to himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Yeah, well it's not like the militarization of and complete fiat over space can be achieved by backseat drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossoi Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophiolite Posted November 12, 2004 Author Share Posted November 12, 2004 Off-topic. Thanks Mossoi for the interesting link in your signature. Everyone should take a quick look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossoi Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 No problem - I think he is a man whose contribution hasn't been recognised throughout the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severian Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 He was working for CERN at the time. CERN should have slapped on a $0.0000001 charge per internet click for using the web, and we would have no problems funding particle physics research.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossoi Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 From the link in my signature: But the World Wide Web is Berners-Lee's alone. He designed it. He loosed it on the world. And he more than anyone else has fought to keep it open, nonproprietary and free.It would be interesting to see how far the Web would have stretched had it been licensed by CERN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 maybe NASA should enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sri_90 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 however, for $50m can you really develop / build / run a space ship and still make a decent profit?????i think not, but maybe im wrong! I dont think anyone would do these things for a profit just for the spirit of space development, the guy who won the X-prize did not make a profit at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verusamore Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I wouldn't be supporting this space race comp if it wern't for the good spirit of those hoping to achieve first private manned space flight ,if it were me building I certainly would not be for profit , it would be a life investment worth committing to ( that may also have good returns ) which to give us hope the possibility for one person to achieve there personal desire to go into space . Although it may only be 50 million big ones it is a small price to pay for developing such craft, so this also pushes those people who are coming up with ideas to build more effiecient,cost effective and innovative crafts as well ( maybe because government running out of ideas & money ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verusamore Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 5614, I don't NASA would be allowed , does it mention that anywhere ? Well I wouldn't be surprised . Since if SS1 wins again then the Government would save it self a hellalotof money by not having to fund NASA to build more failed aircraft . (The reason why NASA is very hesitant on the next flight to space) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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