rakuenso Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I need some ideas on hibernating animals amphibians preferably that are frog sized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophiolite Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Not quite sure what you are looking for. Do you mean do all amphibians (frog sized) do it? Or, what is the duration of the hibernation; what temperaures can they tolerate; what environment do they choose to hibernate in; how long do they take to come out of hibernation; what signals trigger the two responses; do these vary between species, beween genera, etc; does failure to hibernate impact on breeding cycles? Or do you want to flip it on is head and think about estivation? Give us more of a clue as to what you are after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 here`s a neat one for you as a starter: http://www.goamazing.com/content.asp?id=654 a bit more about it here: http://www.carleton.ca/~kbstorey/pop-g&m.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakuenso Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 I'm doing an experiment that tests whether there is a lower level of cellular respiration during hibernation or not I actually need just a list of animals that are amphibians or can survive under water during hibernation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcerer Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Do wetas, which survive under rocks frozen in water count as being "underwater"?? From what I can recall most frogs hibernate in mud, not underwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakuenso Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 hmm ok thx man those wetas look like a hybrid of an oversized cricket and spider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcerer Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Its fun putting wetas in sleeping bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Its fun putting wetas in sleeping bags. why? they survive perfectly well asleep without them, but if you want to be excesively Kind to them and give them little sleeping bags, that`s cool too, there far too much cruelty anyway, it`s nice to see someone that cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcerer Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 LOL. good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophiolite Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Since we seem to be going through a brief silly phase could I just say that I used to have a wetas, but it was because I kept falling down in the rain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 man those wetas look like a hybrid of an oversized cricket and spider This description reminded me of a dessicated insect corpse I found on a book shelf while I was in France. This thing really freaked me out as I had never seen anything like it, not in the flesh and not in the literature. Imagine a centipede about two inches long. Now imagine it has the colouration and legs of a spider, with the legs getting longer towards the rear until they end with two pairs that are more the twice the length of the others, and angled up then down in an "I can pounce real fast" kind of way. Also put larger jaws on it. Eeek. Anyone have any idea what that ugly fecker was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidDreamer Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I need some ideas on hibernating animals amphibians preferably that are frog sized. How about a frog. If you don't have to use an amphibian then how about a turtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Wetas are truly marvellous creatures. I saw on a nature document when the freezing process was taken on video; you could actually see ice crystals forming on the thing. Sorcerer is lucky to live in New Zealand where there are all sorts of cool insects. We don't even have roaches or poisonous spiders or anything like that. :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Wetas are truly marvellous creatures. I saw on a nature document when the freezing process was taken on video; you could actually see ice crystals forming on the thing. these froggy things I mentioned above are similar, you could store them in your freezer ice-cube tray for 6 months, take them out and have a perfectly living viable frog again!!!! now THAT`S freaky! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidDreamer Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 No wonder those guys survived when the dinosaurs died out. HIbernation is a built in catastrophe resistance mechanism along with its other uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 The frog would most likely be an interesting pet. "OK, that was the last time you ate my pet beetle. You're going to the ice-cube tray for 6 months!" Edit: Hey Sayo, see if it was a brother of these fellows: http://weta.boarsnest.net/gallery.htm Mating pictures too, whoopee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokele Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Anyone have any idea what that ugly fecker was? Was it something like these? (warning, big pics of weird bugs) Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 If it looked like those, it was probably the common house centipede. Not dangerous or anything, and *really* cool looking. Mokele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcerer Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 This description reminded me of a dessicated insect corpse I found on a book shelf while I was in France. This thing really freaked me out as I had never seen anything like it' date=' not in the flesh and not in the literature. Imagine a centipede about two inches long. Now imagine it has the colouration and legs of a spider, with the legs getting longer towards the rear until they end with two pairs that are more the twice the length of the others, and angled up then down in an "I can pounce real fast" kind of way. Also put larger jaws on it.[/quote'] Then put it in a sleeping bag. Sounds like some kind of centipede to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcerer Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Wetas are truly marvellous creatures. I saw on a nature document when the freezing process was taken on video; you could actually see ice crystals forming on the thing. Sorcerer is lucky to live in New Zealand where there are all sorts of cool insects. We don't even have roaches or poisonous spiders or anything like that. :< Too cold for roaches down here in the South Island, thank god... The only native poisonous spider we have are found under driftwood and amongst tussock on sand dunes, they are called katapos and apparently the femals are only poisonous during the breeding season, but I wouldnt want to test that one. There are several types of weta, the Giant weta being the coolest, it'd make the best reaction in a sleeping bag. Huhu grubs and beetles are kind of cool, the grubs are pretty tasty too. You should see the carnvorous land snails (not an insect I know) in Nelson and also the Nelson cave spiders. Get one of these down your sleeping bag! http://www.tepapa.govt.nz/TePapa/English/CollectionsAndResearch/Collections/InsectsSpidersAndSimilar/Spiders/Spiders_Web/What/Nelsoncave.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Was it something like these? (warning' date=' big pics of weird bugs)Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 That's the bugger. It was already dead when I found it and it still gave my mum the heebie jeebies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Those things are actually common somewhere? Damn, I really have to move to a warmer country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokele Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Those things are actually common somewhere? Damn, I really have to move to a warmer country. Ironicly, during my childhood in Louisiana and Florida, where most insects are approximately the size of a city bus, I never saw these. I only ran into them when I moved to Ohio. Mokele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbo1965uk Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 The only wetas we have in the uk are when its been raining and you sit down on a bench.If your unlucky you end up with a really wetas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcerer Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 We have crickets here in New Zealand too, they are large and oval and consist of patches of white wool spread out across a feild with several wooden sticks and a red ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARDBATTY Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Do the lung fish its a very interesting creature. The hibernation is due to lack of water though so I'm not sure if it would fit your project.http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/vertebrates/sarco/dipnoi.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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