admiral_ju00 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 you mean software piracy? or use of (malicious) hacking scrypts(hence the word script kiddie)? or conspiracy/intent of identity theft/fraud? they would need to prove what greater your intent was 1st. then, depending on what they think, as remember, this may have been a game for you and your friend, but nobody else is playing any games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 i dont want to do it, but where can you get a key logger from, just a basic one, doesnt need to be 'invisible', just log all the key strokes! that was kinad obvious, after all that's what a key logger does, where can you get them from? [preferably for free] & are they legal or illegal, or does it depend on what you want it for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiral_ju00 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 C-NET - free/shareware Key Logger - shareware/trialware Some good to know stuff Some more good toys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 C-NET - free/sharewareKey Logger - shareware/trialware Some good to know stuff Some more good toys You seem to know quite a lot on this admiral! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 you mean software piracy? or use of (malicious) hacking scrypts(hence the word script kiddie)? or conspiracy/intent of identity theft/fraud? they would need to prove what greater your intent was 1st. then' date=' depending on what they think, as remember, this may have been a game for you and your friend, but nobody else is playing any games.[/quote'] software piracy, what can they do about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiral_ju00 Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 You seem to know quite a lot on this admiral! a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far away, i started out as a script kiddie, i then graduated to a much more developed hacker. after turning 18, i could NOT afford to do any jail time, hence i had to give up my bad habits but at times, i still miss all the fun things i did....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 software piracy, what can they do about it? You can get prosecuted for it, and even sent to prisoin if they feel you have attempted it. NEVER try it. It is a VERY serious crime. a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far away, i started out as a script kiddie, i then graduated to a much more developed hacker. after turning 18, i could NOT afford to do any jail time, hence i had to give up my bad habits but at times, i still miss all the fun things i did....... Admiral's history... Very interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiral_ju00 Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 You can get prosecuted for it, and even sent to prisoin if they feel you have attempted it. NEVER try it. It is a VERY serious crime. yub yub, commander in the USA, now, well since 9/11, you can easily attract FBI on your case doing this and upto 5years in jail or something. Admiral's history... Very interesting! heh, i installed back orifice on all my (1st) university's libriary computers(and a few other things). i was really, really wanting the access to their LexisNexis, which worked to an extent, 'till i realized i've done it in a very sloppy fashion so, yeah, i had go and undo some of the things..... like i said, before it hits 18, it's all goooooooooooooooood timeeeeeeeees i dunno if you guys know or have heard of him, but my hero during those days was Kevin Mitnick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 i dunno if you guys know or have heard of him, but my hero during those days was Kevin Nitmick. Never heard of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 Who is he when hes at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiral_ju00 Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Who is he when hes at home? oh i believe that he still holds the title of the most notorious hacker ever. he has recently been released from prison after he decided to break into a few systems, gave FBI a run for their money, bleh, blah, bleh here's some info on the matter...... http://www.takedown.com/bio/mitnick.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 My idol, pffft whoi am i kidding, this was and is a very silly and expensive thing to do an i wont do it again, as for this chap he looks like hes gone to far to be saved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 software piracy, what can they do about it? they could contact FAST (Federation Against Software Theft), they you`de have some REAL explaining to do!, these guys love their job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 oh i believe that he still holds the title of the most notorious hacker ever. he has recently been released from prison after he decided to break into a few systems' date=' gave FBI a run for their money, bleh, blah, bleh here's some info on the matter...... http://www.takedown.com/bio/mitnick.html[/quote'] I take a rather dim view of the man myself. He seems to be obsessed with publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 I like the way he's trying to be a security consultant now people have started realising he is not magical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 software piracy, what can they do about it? Depends who "they" is. Any software publisher could press charges, and since it's a crime that probably means fines and a criminal record, possibly jail, equipment confiscation, and ban terms. The FAST would probably only press charges if they believed the pirate to be a distributor. Comforting to know the world does not yet belong to the self-confessed teenaged "hackers"*. * Especially since most of them don't know what a hacker actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 "self-confessed teenaged "hackers"* * Especially since most of them don't know what a hacker actually is. Soooo TRUE! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MulderMan Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 i belive mitnick did it for the fame and freinds anyway, and he also has a form of dyslexia refered to as the hackers desiese. people take difrent interpritation of the word hacker, most people in school think you are one if you use command prompt.... i refer to is as a computer / network enthusiast. ive done some things but not to a really bad extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 the word "Hacker" is most often confused with a "Crackist". and there`s a BIG Difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiral_ju00 Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 the word "Hacker" is most often confused with a "Crackist". and there`s a BIG Difference! yub yub, very true. err, i think you mean Cracker...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodhound Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 i sort of did this kind of stuff in our schoo, but luckily the network admin was too incompetent. like deleting users and adding user names, changing the admin pass. it was quite fun watching his dumb face being terrorised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted June 20, 2004 Author Share Posted June 20, 2004 Crackers are always better than hackers......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted June 20, 2004 Share Posted June 20, 2004 and also more destructive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted June 20, 2004 Share Posted June 20, 2004 Crackers are always better than hackers......... Not true. In fact, generally the reverse is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted June 20, 2004 Share Posted June 20, 2004 To develop that point, hackers are just computer engineers that know a lot about computers. They try and find wormholes in operating systems and try to learn more about them As for crackers, they are the ones who crack programs and find serial numbers and create cracks for software. They are the ones who create the virusses that damage our computers and files! Hackers consider it a great insult if people called them crackers because they do not damage anything. It is the crackers who do. Nowadays, when someone refers to a hacker, we usually think of someone evil, much to the hacker's discontent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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