Israel is currently afraid of starting a full-scale war with Iran, because Iran is bigger and has more resources. However, I believe that Israel could easily win this war if it turned it into a nonzero sum game and set its goal to interest the Iranian people and turn them into an ally. To do this, Israel needs to announce in social media that it is starting an offensive with only one goal - performing a referendum in Iran with the following questions:

1) Unblocking Youtube;

2) Freeing political prisoners;

3) Abolishing censorship and repressive laws;

4) Transferring power from the Ayatollah to the President;

5) Amnesty for all Iranian military personnel who went over to Israel's side.

Israel must emphasize that it will play by the rules, and aims to make the Iranian people an ally; It is necessary to promise that the Iranian people will be able to vote against all these points in a referendum, and Israel will accept this choice.

Why the Israeli authorities didn’t choose this path?

2 hours ago, Linkey said:

Israel is currently afraid of starting a full-scale war with Iran

Current circumstances strongly imply the opposite

The last thing any country needs is Israel as an ally in its current political configuration. It also has a majority ethnofascist-expansionist popuation.

Edited June 15Jun 15 by StringJunky

2 hours ago, StringJunky said:

The last thing any country needs is Israel as an ally in its current political configuration. It also has a majority ethnofascist-expansionist popuation.

Please stop with the gross generalizations, may I remind you the state of the Yezidi peoples within Israel’s enemies such as Iran and Syria?

25 minutes ago, Sohan Lalwani said:

Please stop with the gross generalizations, may I remind you the state of the Yezidi peoples within Israel’s enemies such as Iran and Syria?

What do you mean?

6 minutes ago, StringJunky said:

What do you mean?

The severe persecution by ISIS and the “genocide” of the Yezidis

29 minutes ago, Sohan Lalwani said:

The severe persecution by ISIS and the “genocide” of the Yezidis

Yes it's a complicated situation. ISIS is being funded by Israel and the Yazidis are victims in this mess, but it's the main geopolitical currents driving this conflict that have to be addressed first.

3 minutes ago, StringJunky said:

Yes it's a complicated situation. ISIS is being funded by Israel and the Yazidis are victims in this mess, but it's the main geopolitical currents driving this conflict that have to be addressed first.

Israel has never directly funded ISIS, the Yazidis are a victim to Islamic extremism and “rundown” conflict. There are very isolate pockets where Israel has funded possible ISIS backed groups to counteract other terrorist groups in the region, but this is theorized and not proven.

21 minutes ago, Sohan Lalwani said:

Israel has never directly funded ISIS, the Yazidis are a victim to Islamic extremism and “rundown” conflict. There are very isolate pockets where Israel has funded possible ISIS backed groups to counteract other terrorist groups in the region, but this is theorized and not proven.

They are currently funding criminal groups in Gaza to harass the Gazans.

An Easy Way for Israel to Defeat Iran

What are you even talking about? After all, it was Israel that attacked, and Iran is defending itself.... Who has dumbed you down to the point where you can't tell the difference between attacker and defender?

8 hours ago, Linkey said:

Israel is currently afraid of starting a full-scale war with Iran, because Iran is bigger and has more resources. [...therefore Israel attacks first...]

Holy shit! Canada, Danes and Mexico should attack the US!

8 hours ago, Linkey said:

Why the Israeli authorities didn’t choose this path?

After all, these guys are war criminals and murderers, then if they are, they said to themselves "what the hell!"..

1 hour ago, StringJunky said:

They are currently funding criminal groups in Gaza to harass the Gazans.

Evidence of this is where?

11 minutes ago, Sohan Lalwani said:

Evidence of this is where?

Search 'Yasser Abu Shabab'.

1 hour ago, StringJunky said:

Search 'Yasser Abu Shabab'.

Again, it’s Israel arming a third party group opposed to Hamas, they are not doing it to intentionally harass Gazans. Applying that same logic would lead you to that Iran is just as in the fault if not more than Israel due to them arming Hamas, leading to the aggressive response

3 hours ago, Sensei said:

After all, these guys are war criminals and murderers, then if they are, they said to themselves "what the hell!".

Wow! How damn smart to summarize an entire nation by saying they are war criminals! Your genius is truly unmatched!

3 hours ago, Sensei said:

What are you even talking about? After all, it was Israel that attacked, and Iran is defending itself.... Who has dumbed you down to the point where you can't tell the difference between attacker and defender?

Hmmmmmmm I wonder who armed the groups that caused Israel’s severe response.

Also, “since 1985, Iran and Israel have been engaged in a proxy conflict that has greatly affected the geopolitics of the Middle East.”

Prior to there Islamic Regime taking over Iran and Israel generally had excellent relations, Post them taking political power of the country they had very proof relations. Hence why Netanyahu when he is addressing Israel’s assault on Iran he often talks about the Iranian people, I recommend even reading a Wikipedia page on the topic before jumping to hostilities.

@Sohan Lalwani

Israel should never have nuclear weapons! Why would they? Who should they use it on? They can't use it on Turkey, they can't use it on Egypt, they can't use it on Iraq and they can't use it on Iran. This has opened a Pandora's box.

Since they made bombs and nuclear missiles for themselves, all the countries next to them felt threatened and began to arm themselves, so as not to be the last donkey to be kicked..

When Indians created for themselves, did the Jews bomb them? Or when the Pakistanis created for themselves, did the Jews bomb them? Somehow I don't recall..

The problem is if Israel was in the process of making a bomb and anyone bombed them at that moment you would get the f**k up and talk about it as a crime and all.. point of view depends on the point of standing..

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Israel should never have nuclear weapons!

After '45 they were allotted plots of land and there they were supposed to sit in peace, not attack anyone and be a peaceful nation..

7 hours ago, Sohan Lalwani said:

Wow! How damn smart to summarize an entire nation by saying they are war criminals! Your genius is truly unmatched!

I was talking about the leaders, that is, those who pull the triggers and are responsible for all these massacres here and there.

After what they did in Gaza they became war criminals. Do you know what size Gaza is? 365 km^2. Chicago has 600 km^2 for comparison.. It is the size of a New York City neighborhood.

And if their population does not protest, it means that they like such an “imperialist” style.... I think the ballistics rockets in the night sky are almost like those Starlinks that fly in line.... a little entertainment won't hurt them, since they so chose for themselves in “democratic elections”.. The worst thing is that after such an attack it is in the polls that the government's ratings are rising. I wonder by what miracle.

After the attack on Chechnya, the V.V.P.'s ratings grew, then after the attack on Georgia, and then again after the annexation of Ukraine, etc. etc.

As such a politician reads these statistics, and believes in them, he may come to the conclusion that the best/easiest way to “eternal power” is wars with everyone... because after that he can't even be “dethroned”..

When you have martial law you don't have free elections, etc. etc.

15 hours ago, StringJunky said:

The last thing any country needs is Israel as an ally in its current political configuration. It also has a majority ethnofascist-expansionist popuation.

It's unimaginable how you can squander all the sympathy of people around the world after what happened during the Holocaust by doing the same thing as the Nazis..

9 hours ago, Sensei said:

@Sohan Lalwani

Israel should never have nuclear weapons! Why would they? Who should they use it on? They can't use it on Turkey, they can't use it on Egypt, they can't use it on Iraq and they can't use it on Iran. This has opened a Pandora's box.

Since they made bombs and nuclear missiles for themselves, all the countries next to them felt threatened and began to arm themselves, so as not to be the last donkey to be kicked..

When Indians created for themselves, did the Jews bomb them? Or when the Pakistanis created for themselves, did the Jews bomb them? Somehow I don't recall..

The problem is if Israel was in the process of making a bomb and anyone bombed them at that moment you would get the f**k up and talk about it as a crime and all.. point of view depends on the point of standing..

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Israel should never have nuclear weapons!

After '45 they were allotted plots of land and there they were supposed to sit in peace, not attack anyone and be a peaceful nation..

I was talking about the leaders, that is, those who pull the triggers and are responsible for all these massacres here and there.

After what they did in Gaza they became war criminals. Do you know what size Gaza is? 365 km^2. Chicago has 600 km^2 for comparison.. It is the size of a New York City neighborhood.

And if their population does not protest, it means that they like such an “imperialist” style.... I think the ballistics rockets in the night sky are almost like those Starlinks that fly in line.... a little entertainment won't hurt them, since they so chose for themselves in “democratic elections”.. The worst thing is that after such an attack it is in the polls that the government's ratings are rising. I wonder by what miracle.

After the attack on Chechnya, the V.V.P.'s ratings grew, then after the attack on Georgia, and then again after the annexation of Ukraine, etc. etc.

As such a politician reads these statistics, and believes in them, he may come to the conclusion that the best/easiest way to “eternal power” is wars with everyone... because after that he can't even be “dethroned”..

When you have martial law you don't have free elections, etc. etc.

It's unimaginable how you can squander all the sympathy of people around the world after what happened during the Holocaust by doing the same thing as the Nazis..

In my opinion no country should have any form of nuclear weapons, it’s a game of Russian roulette but instead of a slug you can’t see what kills you.

May I remind you that Israel exists in one of the most volatile and antagonistic regions on the planet, surrounded by states and factions that have repeatedly declared intent to wipe it off the map. Israel has never started a war for conquest, and in most cases, it has been forced into defensive wars for sheer survival. If any nation has cause to live in a posture of cautious deterrence, it is Israel.

And yet, even with the perceived ambiguity surrounding Israel’s nuclear posture, it has never used such weapons, never tested them openly, never threatened a neighbor with them as a first strike. Compare that to authoritarian regimes that parade their weapons, threaten annihilation, and use nuclear capability as leverage to destabilize entire regions. Israel, by contrast, has pursued a doctrine of deliberate restraint—seeking balance and deterrence rather than domination.

So while I dream of a world free of nuclear arms—a planet where no child has to grow up under the threat of radioactive fire—we cannot ignore the realities of the present. Disarmament must be global, not selective. Israel did not invent the nuclear age. But in a world where genocidal threats still echo across borders, can you truly argue that it should disarm first and alone?

9 hours ago, Sensei said:

@Sohan Lalwani

It's unimaginable how you can squander all the sympathy of people around the world after what happened during the Holocaust by doing the same thing as the Nazis..

Again with the gross oversimplifications and poor historical comparison. Does Israel #### children at all? Let alone to the same extent the Nazis did. Do they participate in ethnic cleansing? No, in fact within Israel various ethnic groups have their own specialized quarters and in more condensed cities, have “mixed” zones. These people interact relatively frequently.

9 hours ago, Sensei said:

After '45 they were allotted plots of land and there they were supposed to sit in peace, not attack anyone and be a peaceful nation..

Are we serious? I question who attempted to attack Israel multiple times.

12 hours ago, Sensei said:

It's unimaginable how you can squander all the sympathy of people around the world after what happened during the Holocaust by doing the same thing as the Nazis..

On the face of it, yes, but not once you learn that over the last 120-130 years, the atheist-inspired political ideology of Zionism (the founders Herzl and Ben-Gurion were atheists) has parasitized and concealed itself in the acceptable face of religious Judaism and capitalized on their historical suffering to achieve their territorial and, presently, expansionist colonial aspirations. It's not actually genuine diasporic religious Jews that are causing the problems.

Edited June 16Jun 16 by StringJunky