DimaMazin Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Genady said: No, any one of them. I'd start with something simple. What experiment did Einstein present to the formula? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, DimaMazin said: What experiment did Einstein present to the formula? The formula is a mathematical result. The question is experimental test of mathematics: 8 hours ago, DimaMazin said: What experiment proves the mathematics? If mathematics is correct, then the formula is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Genady said: The formula is a mathematical result. The question is experimental test of mathematics: If mathematics is correct, then the formula is correct. We consider physics and the mathematics has no relation to the physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Just now, DimaMazin said: We consider physics and the mathematics has no relation to the physics. Mathematics has relation to everything. Physics included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 42 minutes ago, Genady said: Mathematics has relation to everything. Physics included. Concrete mathematics was created by smoked brain. We cannot apply it anywhere. -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Are you trying to win a bet with someone that you can be even more ridiculous and even more profoundly absurd than you already were in previous posts? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, DimaMazin said: Concrete mathematics was created by smoked brain. We cannot apply it anywhere. YOU cannot apply it anywhere. I guess, you understand Russian. This is for you: Плохому танцору пол мешает. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 hours ago, iNow said: Are you trying to win a bet with someone that you can be even more ridiculous and even more profoundly absurd than you already were in previous posts? I made correct math. Genady don't understand it because he is ortodoxal. You don't understand it because you understant no math at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Sick burn, bruh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 8/16/2023 at 6:45 AM, iNow said: Sick burn, bruh My idea is so. Velocity v is between S and S' . gamma=1/(1-v2/c2)1/2. Object travels with velocity u in rame S. Norm of relation between distances and times is defined by gamma. u is rate of change of distance at time in S and it is the same when S travels in S'. We should only transform it relative to distance and time of S'. Then u transforms into u/gamma. And we should add velocity v. u'=v-u/gamma Einstein's velocity u' is another and therefore it changes norm of contracted and not contracted distances and times. Therefore it is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 hours ago, DimaMazin said: u'=v-u/gamma The following example proves that your formula is incorrect. Take v=.8c, u=-.8c. Plug them into your formula. It gives, u'=1.28c which is faster than the speed of light! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Genady said: The following example proves that your formula is incorrect. Take v=.8c, u=-.8c. Plug them into your formula. It gives, u'=1.28c which is faster than the speed of light! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 On 8/16/2023 at 2:56 AM, Genady said: YOU cannot apply it anywhere. I guess, you understand Russian. This is for you: Плохому танцору пол мешает. It is exactly incorrect because it violates energy momentum law. S' is traveling with velocity v1 in S. We acselerate body to S' then the body has momentum p1 and energy E1. Then we acselerate the body to v2. Then the body has momentum p and energy E . In the same time the body has momentum p2 and energy E2 in S'. The enegy momentum law is E1=(p1/p)2E E2=(p2/p)2E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 5 hours ago, DimaMazin said: Then the body has momentum p and energy E In what reference frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Genady said: In what reference frame? In S . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, DimaMazin said: In S . Then how does it work if p=0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Genady said: Then how does it work if p=0? Then p1 and p2=0. E=0 0/0=1 E1=12×0=0 E2=12×0=0 E is kinetic energy E1 and E2 are kinetic energies. Edited August 19, 2023 by DimaMazin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, DimaMazin said: Then p1 and p2=0 No, not necessarily. 11 minutes ago, DimaMazin said: 0/0=1 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Genady said: No, not necessarily. No. I don't understand you. 0/0=1 Ask mathexperts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, DimaMazin said: Ask mathexperts. I am one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 55 minutes ago, Genady said: I am one. Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Tel-Aviv University. Retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, Genady said: Tel-Aviv University. Retired. Do you want to dispruve the law? Or do you remake it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, DimaMazin said: Do you want to dispruve the law? Or do you remake it? Which law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, Genady said: Which law? Teachets teached us 0/0=1 What is in Israel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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