US Mid-Terms 2022

[TheVat]

On 11/14/2022 at 8:06 PM, iNow said:

Kari Lake, election denying trump game playing candidate for Arizona Governor, has officially lost the election there

Losing to Hobbs, I assume her life will be solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.  

For her party as a whole, it will be Hobbes' bellum omnia contra omnes.

 

 

 

[iNow]

25 minutes ago, TheVat said:

Losing to Hobbs, I assume her life will be solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.  

For her party as a whole, it will be Hobbes' bellum omnia contra omnes.

You're a regular Leviathan here sometimes, sir. lol. Well played

[geordief]

You can't upvote an erroneous  Latin construction  just to own the elites (it's "omnium" not "omnia"-gen.plural)

 

Actually  completely unfamiliar with Hobbs and Leviathon.Is he a kind  of a Jonathan Swift type  author?

Edited November 16, 2022 by geordief

[iNow]

Who?        

[geordief]

10 minutes ago, iNow said:

Who?        

Hobbs. Did he write Leviathon?

btw a well written piece in one of Murdoch's papers I just came upon 

 

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119882422/#Comment_119882422

Edited November 16, 2022 by geordief

[toucana]

 

Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679) who was born when his mother went into premature labour after being told of the Spanish Armada, lived in era when men of learning habitually wrote and even *thought* in classical Latin.

The Latin phrase bellum omnium contra omnes was a motif rendered by Thomas Hobbes in Leviathan as “warre of everyone against everyone”. In the earlier work De Cive (1642) he wrote:

ostendo primo conditionem hominum extra societatem civilem, quam conditionem appellare liceat statum naturæ, aliam non esse quam bellum omnium contra omnes; atque in eo bello jus esse omnibus in omnia.

"I demonstrate, in the first place, that the state of men without civil society (which state we may properly call the state of nature) is nothing else but a mere war of all against all; and in that war all men have equal right unto all things."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellum_omnium_contra_omnes

 

[TheVat]

My talent for misremembering Latin phrases is the ne plus ultra.

Hobbes has a famous quote regarding mankind, if left in a state of nature...

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In such condition, there is no place for industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving, and removing, such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

Hobbes wrote some stupid things, too, like a faulty proof of squaring the circle.  

As fans of the American comic strip know, he inspired the name of Hobbes the stuffed tiger in "Calvin and Hobbes."