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Conscious observers have their own idea of 'normal' time and have their own idea of an uncurved or unstretched ruler, wherever he/she is in the universe

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My claim is that conscious observers have their own particular clock and their own particular ruler. A reference for time and a reference for a straight uncurved, unstretched ruler.

Wherever we are, as conscious observers, we experience the same time rate passage.  And we have our local idea of what's an uncurved and straight ruler.

 

Time

So, far above the Earth, scientists say: the time rate passage goes faster, due to gravitational timedilation here on Earth.

Gravity slows down time.

 

But what's actually happening is: relative to an observer high above the Earth (an astronaut f.e.), the time rate passage is slower on Earth then his reference idea of a standard ticking clock.

But to a conscious observer near a black hole, time on Earth goes faster then his local standard idea of a normal ticking clock. Time goes very fast on Earth, relative to this conscious observer near that black hole. Because his consciousness experiences time 'normal' locally, wherever he is. ('normal' means: a reference time rate passage for consciousness, that is everywhere the same for every observer, wherever he or she is).

So, our experience of time is everywhere the same. Therefore, everywhere we have a particular ruler.

 

 Ruler

I think that every conscious observer has also his or her particular idea of a straight line as his or her reference for the observations of 'curvature' or 'expanding' spaces elsewhere, far away from the observer. In relative heavier or relative weaker fields of gravity.

So, a straight uncurved and unexpanded ruler for a conscious observer in intergalactic 'expanding' space is different from a straight uncurved or unexpanded ruler for a conscious observer here on Earth.

 

Time-observations and ruler-observations are connected

Whenever we, as conscious observers, observe a 'curved environement' in space, due to gravity, f.e. gravitational lensing etc., we see this curvature through the lens of our clock. We see this curvature through the lens of our idea of an uncurved and unstretched ruler in our referenceframe. It means, that overthere, the clock will tick relative slower then our reference clock, as conscious observers on Earth. 

So, whatever we observer 'outthere' depends on our local idea of a normal ticking clock and our particular idea of a straight uncurved and unstretched line as our reference for 'curvature by gravity' (or speed).

 

Maarten Vergucht

 

 

 

 

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An atomic clock placed on Mt Everest recorded time dilation with no conscious observer present.

Your theory is easily falsified.

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Time perception is not an effect of physics, as relativity is.

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2 hours ago, Mordred said:

An atomic clock placed on Mt Everest recorded time dilation with no conscious observer present.

Your theory is easily falsified.

I accept that timedilation happened in a field of gravity. But to a conscious astronaut, he/she will experience his clock ticking at a normal rate. There will be no difference in time perception for him. 

Take the following thought experiment from special relativity: on a ship travelling near the speed of light relative to Earth, the observers on that ship don't experience a dilation of time, nor a shrink of their ship. To them, everything on the ship is perceived 'normal'. To them: Earth is shrinking in one direction and the clocks on Earth do have strange effects. To the conscious observers in the ship.

So, to a conscious observer, his perception of time rate passage is the same, wherever he or she is. He has no experience of a timestretch or timecontraction, a spacecontraction or a space-expansion locally. Only when we compare the clocks afterwards, when we bring them together, we see that there must have been a difference in time rate passage. 

 

1 hour ago, swansont said:

Time perception is not an effect of physics, as relativity is.

Think about the travellers in the ship near the speed of light. We, from Earth, see that the ship is shrinking and that the time is dilating over there. But the conscious observers in the ship do not perceive anything weird on the ship. The ship is as always. The clocks run normal. Everything is fine. 

Why? Because wherever an observer is, his idea of time is 'normal'. Even when he is close to a black hole. 

 

Why is this relevant? It's relevant for our observations of space through our telescopes. What we observer has also something to do with our clocks and with our normal perception of time here on Earth, while time is actually dilated. 

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Any measurement device would experience the same effects. Those effects do not require a conscious observer.

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5 hours ago, Maartenn100 said:

My claim is that conscious observers have their own particular clock and their own particular ruler. A reference for time and a reference for a straight uncurved, unstretched ruler.

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Moderator Note

You appear to have discovered the concept of "proper time" (and proper distance).

I see no reason for this to stay open in Speculations as you are just stating the obvious.

 

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