Moontanman

I think it's safe to say that any interstellar space craft that crashed on the Earth would have very little technology we could reverse engineer and come up with some wild break through that everyone would look at and say "WOW! THAT MUST BE ALIEN TECHNOLOGY" Any thing really different or advanced would be almost impossible for us. Even if you took a laptop back just 100 years how much of it could be reverse engineered? Just figuring out how to charge the thing would be a huge challenge. Alien technology, short of new fangled zippers (whoa! Velcro?) 100's or 1,000's of years ahead of us would be as opaque to our technology as a laptop in 1492.

I don't understand, what would bounce and off of what? No, the black hole is formed by the infalling matter, beyond a certian density it never stops falling inward, time slows as it becomes a black hole but the infall or collapse never stops.

No it is not, a critical mass can form with out the extreme pressures of a bomb. The pressure makes the bomb more efficient resulting in a more complete fission of the uranium or plutonium. What happens depends on the mass of the star, a sun like star just collapses into a white dwarf. No, not quite, the initial collapse both explodes the outer layers and and compresses the inner layers at the same time into a neutron star or black hole depending on the mass. Sometimes the initial explosion does blow away enough mass to prevent a black hole. Sometimes you get a white dwarf or a neutron star or a quark star, a black hole can only form if the original star is above a certain mass when they process starts, IE it depends on how much mass you start out with. There is no continuous chain of explosions because there is no energy source for them, fusion is over by this time, all reactions past iron consume energy they do not produce it. Gravity overcomes any rebound type energy.

My fav JP song

I have a few disjointed memories of 2 or 3 yo or so but no real continuous memories of more than 4 or 5

Some say a lot of what we have now come from reverse engineered alien technology and or that much of it was and still is beyond our keen. It's a very frustrating thing to discuss since by definition there is little or no real evidence to look at.

Ok, Captain, i am convinced it's an alien UFO opening up a FTL wormhole in the upper atmosphere, hell I don't think you could design a better one than that for sure. Then again could it be some weird aurora effect? Was it far enough north to be the Aurora?

Angry turtle, you just wanted to post a nekked girl pic didn't you? Nice one i admit and i do like the dimples..... Um yesssss, oh ok, um, symmetry, yes that's it, symmetry, that why I like them so much. On yeah, ummm, any chance we can inspect the other side for dimples, just a scientific check to make sure we are not missing any, you know, just to be sure

As is your gibber jabber and no it doesn't convince me that 2012 is a significant year.

Would nuclear fusion solve global warming? Only if it was aneutronic and the unit was small enough to fit under my house or better yet in my car.

Two words, Three stooges!

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he is talking about an act i once saw a film of that used a Van de Graaff generator and a woman with a body suit that had metal fibers or wires in it and allowed her to channel static electricity almost like a super hero or something! it was a wild act but not much margin for error.

The sperm cell only contains half the information, the female egg contains the other half.

Yeah, a USB port, I thought the prehensile tail would have been a better place for it, lol. Evidently "Gaea" designed them to be user friendly. Did no one else notice the hexapod theme in all the animals other than the humanoids?

Computing power always gets less expensive, when the movie was first conceived it was impossible, to day it is much easier and will only get easier. With in a few years you should be able to buy a program that will allow you to make your own version of Avatar! (or what ever, lol)

the most powerful one of course! sorry inow, I couldn't resist!

Did anyone else notice the vertebrate animals on the planet had six limbs but the humanoids only had four? I loved much of the movie due to the description of a low gravity high air pressure world. I'm not sure how accurate it was biologically but it was interesting. Much of the life seemed to be taken from ocean creatures. Tube worm type creatures, floating and bio-luminescent creatures were take offs of ocean life and the idea that high pressure atmosphere might support plankton, creatures that feed on plankton, and drifting creatures. The story line was indeed fern-gully/dances with wolves/Pocahontas as someone mentioned. Those white bastards must feel really guilty about what they did to my people! I liked the movie a lot, it was easy to suspend disbelief and go with it. the technology will bring us many more movies that would normally be too expensive to make or time consuming or both. I expect lots of porn to be forth coming wit this sort of CGI, Porn is a huge part of the INTERNET and I'm betting this will be the case with this sort of super realistic CGI.

Would it mean that god is corrupted absolutely?

It seems I remember a science fiction story where aliens brought us the technology to transmit a person light years instantly but only a copy was sent and the original had to be killed each time a person was transmitted. We agreed to the terms but couldn't abide by them, lol

The idea that nudity equals pornography is simply wrong, lots of none nude pictures are quite sexual but they are ok by law. I'm not sure what the answer is but current ideas seem wrong to me. Child beauty pageants are wrong to me but many people think dressing a 6 year old up like a hooker is ok.

For me it's a trilogy, John Varley's Titan, Wizard, and Demon.

Point of fact. we did not "invent" all our complex social structures until a few thousand years ago, we were not much ahead of Neanderthals until after they become extinct. in fact the last of the Neanderthals were displaying the same behavior as us in distinctly different ways. We had an advantage but intelligence wasn't necessarily it. No, you are assuming intelligence is somehow a goal the goal is survival, many animals have evolved unique ways of survival, just because they did it with out large brains and opposable thumbs doesn't mean they were some how late in the game or losers. Today, it is not exactly well known, lots of things that were assumed to be true 50 years ago have been found to be misleading. The most important is that listening in on a civilization equal to ours even from 4.5 light years away might very well be impossible. unless we intentionally beam a signal (and even then in some cases) all our signals are absorbed by the upper atmosphere and or interstellar dust and gases. the old idea that in the radio spectrum the earth would outshine the sun is false and very misleading. SETI, for the most part is looking for signals intentionally being sent out on a specific wave length that is not absorbed by interstellar dust and gases. Possibly you need to look a little deeper into the problems of detecting radio signals form space. If indeed EM is the only way to communicate then we need to examine the ways we are doing it and yes detailed examinations are far more difficult than just listening in with a radio. If there are 1000 advanced civilization in our galaxy spaced more or less equally apart most would not be detectable unless they had existed for many thousands of years. Yes the light speed limit limits both us and them. If there was a civilization on the other side of the milky way that was 50,000 years ahead of us we would still not be able to detect them nor they us. Light speed is much like tracer fire, it works both ways.

I have a very difficult time in seeing anything humans do as "different" that sets us apart from any other animals. Yes there are differences but only in degree. There is nothing humans do that an animal doesn't do in some way to a lesser extent. Humans are obviously more complex in many ways than most animals and at this time that complexity is unique, but I see no reason our level of complexity could not be evolved by other species, Neanderthals would seem to indicate it can happen.

Good post zolar, I'd rep you if I could

I'm not upset pywakit, I just asked for more than grandiose claims and subtle insinuations. i doubt very much we have the technology to move the earth via the methods you suggested much less with the power sources you suggested. And yes I know the Earth could be moved in tiny increments with asteroids but thats not part of what were talking about now is it?.