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Recovering after second cataract removal from right eye, and already am driving without glasses!!

Just one example actually. Ever heard of the Indo/Pak express? They were a professional tennis team double, one Indian and hindu, the other Pakastani and muslim. They actually while playing together, promoted a campaign called "Stop War, Start Tennis” while their respective countries were at war. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/tennis/12/14/tennis.bopanna.qureshi.doubles/index.html I didn't say you said they were bad. I'm simply countering your rhetorical comments that seem to concentrate on the false premise that sport does more harm then good, and which I strongly disagree with, with a number of examples that show the reverse actually applies. If I have been too hard in illustrating that point, [it appears someone has given me a negative rep] and you being a newbie and all, then I apologise.

One of the most obvious benefits this century that has illustrated the unifying aspect of sport was the combined entrance of North and South Korea at the 23rd Winter Olympics held in 2018, in Pyeongchang, South Korea. They also entered a combined Women's Hockey team.... https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/winter-olympics/unified-korea-ice-hockey-north-south-sweden-pyeongchang-2018-games-a8194346.html At these Games, the North and South Koreans marched together behind a “unified Korea” flag in the opening and closing ceremonies. And who could forget the great Nelson Mandella, when he was finally appointed as the country's first Black President, after 27 years in confinement, at the 1995 Rugby Union World Cup, when the Springboks won and Mandella appeared on field in his country's colours for the presentation... A Movie made of that momentious event called "Invictus". Of course the defining point made was that Nelson Mandela campaigned long and hard for South Africa to host the world cup, as a means to reunite his fractured country, torn apart by apartheid, by the best way he knew... Sport!.

Without wasting too much time on this merry-go-round, I respectfully suggest that you appear a half empty sort of bloke, while I prefer half full [more realistically probably 7/8 full]. Plus of course there is good and bad in any endeavour, as I have said many, many times, but thankfully in most, particularly sport, science and music, the good side far, far out ranks that which maybe construed as undesirable or bad. And again, seriously, it is not sport which is bad...it is not science which can be bad, it is not music...it is the rare individuals that may seek to use it, or abuse it to there own advantage...I have given an example of that with Don King the Boxing Manager, and another of the same ilk, would be Colonel Tom Sanders, Elvis' former manager. The Good, the bad, and the ugly, it all exists. I prefer to concentrate on the uniting and beneficial qualities of sport, and obviously science, and music, not the negative side, unless of course it gives me the opportunity to right that negativity and the undesirable parts. But that won't happen, nothing is perfect as most of us know. On one more point, you misconstrue my statement replying to your missiles and solar panels.... of course they are not equally desirable, not by a long shot, particularly since I mentioned earlier in the subject in this thread, about devoting one's energies towards de-militarisation of nations. It is again, the individual that turns to the harmful ends of a particular aspect of science, [or sport] Or if you prefer, everything has a dark side. Yes, I could have worded it better, but I'm sure most understood what I was driving at.

I'm speaking of the everyday Joe Blow walking the streets, that is unaware and ignorant in how science is involved in most all we do to some extent, not the minority of unscrupulous actors/individuals that we can find in any discipline, including sadly, even science. Who? Let me use some quotes from notable sources, that seem to agree with how I look at scientific organization in every day society.... "Science is simply common sense at its best that is, rigidly accurate in observation, and merciless to fallacy in logic": Thomas Henry Huxley. (English biologist). "Science is the systematic classification of experience". George Henry Lewes "Science is what you know. Philosophy is what you don't know": Bertrand Russell "Science is] an imaginative adventure of the mind seeking truth in a world of mystery".Sir Cyril Herman Hinshelwood (1897-1967) English chemist. Nobel prize 1956. "[Science is] the knowledge of consequences, and dependence of one fact upon another".Thomas Hobbes English philosopher, author. Yes, sadly true to some extent. But despite the politics, the monetary self interest, and religion of course, there would not too be many that would go to a politician for a brain injury opinion, or not too many religious people that would ignore medical advice because of some verse in the bible. When the chips are down, the scientific application generally shows the way. No science is not always right...as this pandemic illustrates, but it is and does get it more and more right as time progresses. "[Science is] piecemeal revelation". Oliver Wendell Holmes U. S. poet, essayist, physician. And many more desirable examples in everyday life. Yes, that's what I'm saying, along with sport and music of course, for the last page or so. My comment though, thus, "That coupled with the unscientific conspiracy crap that abounds on social media with regards to vaccination in general" was in reference to the anti vaccination nuts, and the conspiracy ratbags, that put all of Sydney in danger last week's march, [against the scientific and medical advice] and the same ratbags that flood social media with unscientific claims about vaccinations, and the many dumb conspiracies that abound on social media, and which some of my Wife's relos on facebook, were quoting and having misgivings about. In other words, the ratbag anti vax/conspiracy nutters, have used social media for their own unscientific agenda.

I'm pretty sure we actually have become unaware of science in every day life...perhaps that old adage, "familiarity breeds contempt" may apply? In reality we unknowingly use science to organize in everyday life, to improve living standards. Science today and the three main applications of physics, chemistry and biology all help in this regard. Personally, the best example I am able to offer [being married to a Fijian and having lived there for 6 months at a rime]is the gregarious nature of Fijian society, during this pedamic. While originally having it under control, it now has spread dangerously with hundreds of infections daily. Much of this has been put down to the gregarious, communal approach to life in Fiji and the customary, traditional kava drinking from a common bowl. Stopping this age old practice has proved difficult. That coupled with the unscientific conspiracy crap that abounds on social media with regards to vaccination in general, and the AstraZeneca brand in particular, and the preoccupation with young Fijians on social media, is adding to that difficulty, and hindering the implementation of the proper scientific protocol. We ignore science in everyday society and social orginization at our peril.

When it is supported by science?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/study-measuring-earths-vital-signs-warns-climate-tipping-points-180978320/ Study Measuring Earth’s Vital Signs Warns of Climate Tipping Points: The authors say tropical coral reefs, the Amazon rainforest, and the West Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets may have passed dangerous tipping points: This map shows how land and ocean temperatures have changed from June 2021 relative to the 1951-1980 base period. High values (darker red colors) indicate temperatures that are higher than those in the base period. The number in the top right is an estimate of the global mean temperature increase. All temperatures are in Celsius. (NASA GISS Surface Temperature Analysis) In 2019, a coalition of 11,000 scientists declared a global climate emergency along with a paper detailing the worrying trends of the past 40 years across what the authors call the planet’s vital signs. These vital signs are meant to capture Earth’s health and include metrics such as concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the amount of heat absorbed by the oceans, ice sheet mass and deforestation. Now, the coalition of scientists who signed the climate emergency declaration has swelled to 14,000 signatures and researchers have released a new study on the health of our planet that suggests many of Earth’s crucial systems are nearing or have already blown past dangerous tipping points, reports Katharine Gammon for the Guardian. more at link............

Don't know if it answers your question or not, but the colour of anything perceived by the eye, in the very first instant, depends on what part of the electromagnetic spectrum, falls upon that eye. eg: What colour is an Orange in the dark? https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/what-color-is-an-orange-in-the-dark.html

A couple of weeks ago, we had in Sydney a politically, and conspiracy orientated, anti vax/lockdown march, defying health and Police orders. The march as predicted turned violent with assualts on mounted Police horses and the Police themselves. Many were arrested and a general plea went out by the health and Police officials, for anyone recognising anyone in the march to dob them in. More then 5000 calls were made of people being recognised and many more arrests made and are still being made as we speak/type. Snitching on a pack of red neck rebels, has united Sydney like never before!

Good stuff! Science like music and sport, certainly do unite us!

One thing I have noticed with these Olympic games, with regards to swimming, is that generally its the USA, and Australia prominent with the gold medals...this time its far more varied with other countries like Great Britian, Russia, Hungary, China doing great, South Africa, Canada, along with the young Tunisian fellow, sharing with Aust and US. Fiji of course [an Island nation of a million people], winning its second gold in Rugby sevens. A point that has occured to me, our athletes [Aussies] are returning home after each completes their events, [I think it probably applies to all countries, being a covid 19 safe inititive] so what's install for the closing ceremony? No Athletes involved? No chance to say goodbye?

Along with some VB, don't forget the VB! sorry. 😉

Sorry missed this one. A statistic many are unaware of, if asked who is the biggest selling female artist in the world, you would hear names like Rhianna, Madonna, Swift and probably a few other recent aditions I'm not aware of, yet it is Nana, the Greek Angel, who holds that spot.https://www.greekgateway.com/news/nana-mouskouri-the-worlds-highest-selling-female-artist/ Made a world tour in 2014 at the age of 80 years, where I saw her at the State Theartre in Sydney, and first saw here on my 1st wedding anniversary in 1976 at the Sydney Opera House.

What am I listening to right now? Who else but my favourite Greek Angel!!

"Seriously, Would You Share Some?" © Krisztina Scheeff/Comedy Wildlife Photo Awards 2020 Scheeff took the photo in Scotland. A leopard seal got into a lagoon just before low tide," Nachoum wrote. "The seal was hiding, waiting to ambush young penguins as they got closer. When a penguin got close enough, the seal moved extremely fast and caught the penguin by its feet, dragging it to the open water. I was following parallel to the action. The seal released the penguin twice and the terrified penguin succeeded in escaping, but the seal continued chasing after it, and on the third attempt, drowned the penguin and devoured it." The many colours of Uluru....

A mysterious Pink Lake can be found in Western Australia, Lake Hiller. It’s startling colour remains a mystery and while scientists have proven it’s not due to the algae, they still can’t explain while the lake is Pink. A stunning natural phenomena, worth a visit and a place on our bucket list.. from Wiki.... The vibrant colour is permanent, and does not alter when the water is taken in a container. The pink colour is believed to be due to the presence of the organism, Dunaliella salina.[4] The Extreme Microbiome Project, part of the Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF), Metagenomics Research Group (MGRG), has performed a metagenomic analysis on the lake to find Dunaliella as well as Salinibacter ruber, Dechloromonas aromatica, and a few species of the Archaea.[5]

Fun had when I was a young bloke involved the following.....😆 Billy carts in 1950's Australia! Build your own with an old fruit crate, some ball bearings , bolts etc 🤣 bruised elbows, busted knees and skulls, but most of us lived through it!

Love that tune and the Zither....

Yes, on that, I'm in total agreement.

Your entitled to that view point. I strongly disagree. work and play can be the same. Yes a legitimate perspective, and it certainly does, as Nelson wisely said, unite, among other well known qualities. On the FIFA analogy/example, I don't enjoy all sports either, but still appreciate the skill, efforts and sacrifices that may be involved. ps: I enjoy bagpipes also. I was actually present and one of the 38,000 people at this concert. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW5cECZx8k0 a great violinist, great showman, great entrepeneur, and great entertainer.

Thanks for that. If its half as interesting and detailed as the original article I posted, it will be worth it. "The greatest story ever told", maybe a better title! [not to be confused with the 60's movie of the same name 😉]

That's great, we are on the same page then. I believe I have agreed with that also. Nothing wrong with professionalism per se. But again when it develops into shams and scams like world championship wrestling, its undesirable. I've said so. Personally though, I believe all that is good about sport [just as you have listed] far outweighs what is wrong. The same applies to music and science.

"Sport is an international phenomenon, like science or music". — Avery Brundage: “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does. It speaks to youth in a language they understand. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair. It is more powerful than government in breaking down racial barriers.”. – Nelson Mandela