dimreepr

Rito.

Well, if you insist on snipping the sentence "to further clarify my position.", then I can only conclude, your misunderstandings are deliberate, in order to slip the punch/question perhaps...

And I was responding to yours, to further clarify my position.

What's more practical than a healthy state of mind? Whatever the circumstance, imaginary or otherwise; for instance, you find yourself in an intolerable situation, is it not practical to invoke an imaginary friend to make it a torlerable situation, until such times when a smile is possible? Even an inmate on death row, can find God/imaginary friend (according to a recent BBC documentary) and look forward to tomorrow, seems a lot healthier than plotting one's own death in a land of plenty...

The odds are, the house always win's, until they don't...

If we accept the limitations of our freedoms imposed on us by our own society, then we have to accept that we are all oppressed; from North Korea to Norway, but from Norway's POV, it's so easy to see the obvious oppression in North Korea, that it blinds them to their own and makes it acceptable to lay a portion of the blame on its people. Our culture teaches us everthing we need to fit in and especially how to "succeed", in that culture; in my culture (nominally atheist) success is excess, more food than we can eat, a bigger house than we need (too display to our rub in the face of our neighbour's and a big fence to stop those pesky economic migrant's from rummaging in our food filled bins. So, as an atheist, I think my culture would benefit from a bit of politics free religion. Tell that to the great one, Cassius Clay Also see above...

Rito...

Did you not choose your path?

If you haven't been hungry enough to eat from a bin, then I agree, communication is impossible. And you'll never understand how a God can grease your wheel's...

It's intersesting to note how often this is used to provide an escape clause, from this inquiry.

And all I'm saying is, oppresion is subjective and most people, oppressed or otherwise have enough to eat day to day, and decent shelter can be a cave if it's cold and raining. I'm not saying they should be content because of what's to come, I'm saying they can be content because of what's come before (religion in this case), as the sermon on the mount is trying to teach, heaven is here and now and hell is never finding that out. Catch 22 is a joke!!! "me, happy happy happy, dead: you, worry worry worry, dead" Yes it does, it's just that polititions catch up much faster than priest's and we tend to ignore the lesson's of history...

That tends to happen when we don't have enough to eat (feeding of the 5 thousand springs to mind), the political/philosophy pendulum swings in an equal and opposite way...

Indeed, even the oppressed.

How do you know the oppresed aren't content? We all have a boss even the POTUS; it's perfectly possible to be content with a boss/oppressor (god and sundry others) (especially the kind one's) that let's you have enough to eat, and share with your family and friends, a roof over our head's and the time to appreciate what we have, that, often, the boss doesn't; because the boss struggled so hard to protect their privilege that they forget the pleasures of sharing. Ying Yang... Turning the other cheek has nothing to do with war, defend yourself first, otherwise you won't have a cheek to turn; turning the other cheek comes after the war... You make more friends with missionaries, when the missiles are no longer needed... Really??? I'm all ears...

Carefully...

In any given society you will find, the privileged and the, so called, oppressed (your words); when they're in balance the Lord builds a folly, so the oppresed can work for their bread and be satisfied with it's effort to provide for itself, and the Lord gets to keep its privilege; it's a ying yang/good v evil kind of thing, as explored in many a religious philosophy... WTF are you talking about? Did Putin blame religion for his invasion? Or was it him that keeps negging me?

Indeed, I was a little flippant (didn't really have time to post); I haven't read much of Marx but I think he got it fundamentally backward on this, I don't see a problem with a content society, for me it provides a stable platform (not a sheeple stable) to achieve anything. I think he's mistakingly assuming that sheeple can't be happy and are easily picked off by the wolves, but It's not a contented person that's vulnerable to fraud; if you've got enough, you're not going to pay a Nigerian prince to have more... I think "original sin" brings it into sharper focus, for me it's an acknowledgement of 'OUR' natural human habit of sometimes doing what we know to be wrong, either by mistake or in a fit of anger or etc., and as Socrates says any damage we do to other's, equally damage's our own soul/self/mind, then in comes Jesus "you're cured mate". All I'm saying is, all (excluding the fringe, nutter cults etc.) religion's have a means to forgive oneself, which leaves it open and legitimate for atheist's too.

That's what you think...

It's a ying yang thing, you can only see the good bits when you understand the bad bits; when your bias is born of a well fed family, you'll never understand the need for food. OK, so why do you need God?

Indeed, "It doesn't matter who I vote for, the government always win" - anon. Except, "drugs are bad... mkay" - can't remember the name... But I consider the "Opiate of the people" to be contentment and what better system of governance; almost every culture starts with a good idea and contains almost every type of human, which, scientifically, would mean the quality of the society (happiness etc.) depends on the starting conditions and we all know where the industrial revolution leads. I don't, I just thought it was funny/ironic; in a psuedo-religious thread, getting a revenge neg for a neg inspired by offence. 🧐 Well, some one clearly said it!!! Besides can you please explain what the bad bit's are? Indeed, but you could try listening to them; you do know I'm an atheist, right... 🤔

Since you clearly can't think beyond your biased view of Christianity, there's little point in trying to reason with you about religion in any of it's iterations. I'd suggest you read 'the sermon on the mount' and ask yourself, honestly, what is Jesus trying to teach and how much he expects to earn from the punter's; it's the sort of question an atheist/scientist should ask, if he didn't want to be a believer. 😉 This is what I mean 🙄, how could you possibly equate a teacher trying to teach the kids how to be nice too each other, with a drug dealer? Unless you're wearing a welders mask, for a bias... No doubt mr anon will neg me for this post too... 🤞

Having run the Cooper hill cheese race, a round of "double Gloucester" is well worth the effort... 😉

Way to miss the point, yet again... A good teacher tell's you how to think, not what to think; that's no more religious specific, than it is gender specific...

When taught correctly... 😉 🙏 😇 🧐 🤔 🙄 Rito...

If Mistermack were content/fine, why did he put me in the red, I just sought balance with my neg not revenge... 😇 Maybe it does, if you don't understand the "be good" message...