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Implicit in your point is that ability to give birth is what makes a woman. As has already been pointed out repeatedly, your definition leads to absurdities like saying post menopausal women and the infertile are not women. Your stance also doesn’t answer the thread question about whether it’s accurate to say there are ONLY two sexes. So your trollish point is both wrong AND irrelevant. Tell your son whatever you want. Hopefully as he gets older he’ll be able to think critically and answer his own questions and leave any inaccurate ignorance he’s inherited / received from you behind him. Tell him probably not, but we don’t yet know what will be possible in the future. Tell him sex is not determined based on ability to gestate offspring, neither in humans nor in other organisms throughout the animal kingdom. You know… or you could lie and teach him falsehoods. That’s possible too, I suppose.

Strawman much? Also, by the way… he technically could. A male pregnancy is certainly possible by having an embryo implanted into the man's abdomen. It would be ectopic with the placenta attached to an internal organ such as the bowel and later delivered surgically. So YET AGAIN your argument crumbles under even the most basic scrutiny.

Probably at the point where we acknowledge it’s entirely inaccurate and long outdated to continue obstinately demanding that there are only two sexes. Exactly, and the same applies here… yet here we are in a thread where a sizable percentage of participants are refusing to move off their position which is functionally equivalent to demanding that ‘ALL snowflakes are the EXACT same color!!!’

I picture you right now holding a wooden cube in one hand and a hammer in the other. Below you is a hole slightly smaller than the cube and the hole is shaped like a circle. You’re tenaciously pounding away trying to smush the cube into the hole with your hammer, scraping the sides and causing dirt to displace everywhere… and all the while you’re mocking everyone else who attempts to clarify for you that your cube doesn’t actually fit there. More than that, you’re being told where it DOES fit yet you’re plugging your ears and closing your eyes to this information… the information highlighting that there’s a square hole right beside you ready to perfectly receive your cube like a glove awaiting a hand.

Let me take this opportunity to remind readers of some useful factoids shared recently in another thread. They’re insightful when attempting to accurately answer the thread question and when pushing back on the many remedially inaccurate responses being shared here with great certitude and unfounded confidence. https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/125880-jordan-petersons-ideas-on-politis/?do=findComment&comment=1190758 https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/125880-jordan-petersons-ideas-on-politis/?do=findComment&comment=1190791 I just don’t know who to believe... These quotes from our resident biology experts who’ve worked in the field for years and years and years and who are massively clear on the vagaries and messiness in biological classifications, or the people who are forcefully arguing an untenable position based on outdated 6th grade level understandings of biology and misplaced preconceptions. It’s such a hard choice. 🙄 QFT

In which case, the person pretending that there are, in fact, such things as "perfect spheres" is the one who is mistaken. Same applies here, and sex is even more variable than spheres in nature. The biases on this topic are strong. This seems so mind numbingly obvious that it shouldn't even require explanation, IMO.

Well, I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. Our binary classifications are not just arbitrary, but rather often inaccurate. Suggesting otherwise shows bias in the speaker/author, not rigidity in the sex classifications across the animal kingdom.

Are there more than two sexes? Yes Must we ignore a ton of exceptions to pretend there are ONLY two sexes? Yes Do more than two sexes exist across the animal kingdom? Yes Are humans part of the animal kingdom? Yes Does it make sense to suggest some rigid state of ONLY two sexes map accurately on to humans, but not other organisms, and that this is the most precise framing of the question totally unrelated to our preconceptions and personal cultural biases? No

Disagree all you want. I can't force you to be correct. By this definition, those who are infertile and post-menopausal aren't women. They're also only acknowledging a subset of the possibilities. Others are like XXO, etc. It's forcing the data to align with ones preconceptions instead of the other way around.

Yes Nearly everything in the cosmos exists somewhere along a spectrum. Humans just force things into arbitrary binary buckets for convenience. Sex is no different.

There will always be exceptions. IMO it’s a mistake to focus policy solely on them instead of the vast majority of others who don’t fit that marginal exception.

All I can do is laugh and tilt my head like a confused animal. Summarized: Der_N: Switzerland is not monoethnic Me: Nobody disagrees You: I do Me: It doesn’t seem that way based on what you said You: I don’t understand. I’m pointing out that it’s not monoethnic 😂 😂 I guess you got locked in on his use of the word “anymore.” Okay. Sounds good. He’s also not a member here anymore, so it doesn’t really matter.

https://www.scienceforums.net/search/?q=delete account&type=forums_topic&nodes=28&updated_after=any&sortby=relevancy&search_in=titles

By your own statement here, it's clearly not mono-ethnic, and the sectors you site are ALL European. Weird to me that you say you disagree then post comments immediately following which DIRECTLY support the suggestion it's MOSTLY European... the one with which you claim to disagree.

Only if they planned to share them with me

Nobody disagrees. One person said, "MOST" immigrants are from Europe. You replied, "We also have African Asians." The response of "So what?" remains appropriate.

I have no idea, of neither the answer nor the relevance.

It's not either/or. It's both and. Some of us would prefer focusing on healing and improved health... address root causes instead of symptoms. It won't work in every case, but surely it will work in far more than we're trying today by simply locking people up. For me, it's also a fiscal argument. If we're going to spend money, let's spend it on making people better, not on giving them free room and board and food for the rest of their lives. Interestingly, rehabilitation does this, too. Much more so than punishment, IMO. Punishment comes AFTER the public has already been harmed by this individual, and tends often to let that individual continue harming the public after release. Rehab surely isn't perfect, but does absolutely reduce the chance of repeating the very public harm you and I both agree should be minimized.

Well, some are, but even so... not relevant. Seeking medical advice online leads everyone to having cancer and rare conditions that effect only tiny fractions of the population.

The most likely option: These ancient myths will continue being used to control the masses. Some poor gullible soul will be told by another human (likely a more intelligent one) that their messiah is here, they will point to some regular Joe, and the gullible will believe the person telling them, even when the person telling them is sharing untruths.

You should seek help from a qualified mental health professional. You’re clearly dealing with a lot of difficult issues right now.

I recommend changing the thread title to remove this horribly outdated and hurtful label (even though the video in the OP unsurprisingly uses it, too). We wouldn’t let the word nigger stay in the title, and we equally shouldn’t let the word retarded stay there (unless we’re discussing vectors and obstacles to object acceleration).

This has nothing to do with my happiness, and to be perfectly frank its responses like these which are driving your negative vote receipts (not that you’re saying important things that others don’t wish to hear).

You have both. If you’re not getting the sorts of responses that you want, perhaps look inward and reflect on how you could change your own style to better encourage and drive the conversations and responses you seek.