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How does it make you susceptible? You’re not as susceptible to the pathogen when you’re vaccinated. People decided to stop getting the measles vaccine, and now lots of kids are getting the measles. 3 confirmed deaths in the US, with 1356 cases (92% unvaccinated or unknown status) as of Aug 6. >20% of kids under 5 had to be hospitalized. https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html “herd susceptibility” is just being unvaccinated. How would you become more susceptible than that?

We have a tendency to want things to fit into convenient categories, so such duality will arise when that doesn’t happen. Such categorization might work most of the time but nature is messy and doesn’t always conform to these simple characterizations. So the exceptions are interesting, but we shouldn’t make a fuss over the existence of them

No, I think you are greatly misunderstanding the situation. Clarification is clearing up ambiguities and responding to questions if people have them. But your “clarification” here doesn’t pass the smell test. I answered using an analysis using a photon, and you didn’t “clarify” that this was a massive particle until much later. I questioned your units and you didn’t “clarify” that it was action until much later. Both of those should have been immediate. And the single particle example did not have these units. All the other added information didn’t have any obvious connection to the OP - you never clarified how it was relevant. So this looks a lot less like clarification and more like you changing the conditions of the problem. One reason that’s not well-received is that it means people wasted their time trying to help you. Not a good thing when you want feedback from them. There have been multiple requests to close this and I agree.

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You had no math, so they use less than that? The 27,000 number was for “If Earth orbited around Jupiter at the moon's present distance from Earth” What does “an Earth-class moon around a Jupiter” (and this factor of 50) have to do with this? It’s earth around Jupiter. No modifications. A century is still 100 years, right? A millennium is 10x longer? How do you get from 46 to 46k?

But it does not have that action except under one very specific condition (your duration is exactly 1 sec) and action is not an intrinsic property much less a unique one. So you can’t say it consistently has this value. Also not being detectable by M-M is not unique if we are considering hypothetical particles. Also, it occurs to me that this new insistence that the energy is the intrinsic energy (mass) changes things quite drastically. As I had laid out, I assumed a photon since you had not offered the scenario of a hypothetical particle. But a massive particle has kinetic energy and momentum, and if it has a sufficient amount, the wavelength will be significantly shorter, this allowing interference fringes to potentially be seen. (and it’s interesting that I said photon but you didn’t correct me, despite your later claim that you were talking about an intrinsic energy)

But you were implying your arguments were clear, and they weren’t And I will ask, ONCE AGAIN why the action is relevant for a M-M experiment Since the posts are disjointed and not complete or consistent, there’s no reason to think one part applies to any other. Freely falling implies a gravitational field, so you are not away from external influences. Since I never said anything about the energy increasing linearly or to infinity, I don’t see how that relates to me. And I wasn’t talking about a photon until later (and still did not say linearly to infinity) You had asked about a particle with an intrinsic nonzero energy, which is not a photon, and I gave you the formula. If you want an equation you are free to do the math yourself. It’s some simple kinematics and a basic integral. But you haven’t made this connection. When people who understand physics say you’re wrong, you at least have to provisionally accept this, and try and understand the explanation.

And yet you do it anyway

I interpreted @ to mean “at” as in, “at a rate of” and you said “a stream of such particles” which does imply just that. You may not have meant to imply a flux, but you did imply it with the phrasing. By trying to spin it this way and not admit an error, you further damage your credibility and now have to come up with an explanation for how it makes any sense for you to bring up action, and how a stream of particles can be described this way. All of a photon’s energy is kinetic, but we have other equations to describe it as opposed to massive particles. And yes, a photon will increase its energy if falling into a gravity well, but I wasn’t discussing photons, as the equations clearly indicate. You didn’t bring up intrinsic energy until about one day ago, 37 posts into the discussion. Not sure why proper time has any impact on the topic, and similarly, it only came up in the last 24 hours. And that’s one of the problems - your discussion jumps all over the place. The topic is the Michelson-Morley experiment and whether a certain energy particle could be detected. All the rest is you trying to revise history to cover for either a unit error or a really badly-worded description, and trying to bring other irrelevant topics up.

Of course we know what they are. How could you make this claim without knowing what they are? What we don’t know is elements of how they work. As for what they are for, they don’t have to be for anything. That’s not for science to say. Assigning a purpose in a religious, mystical or philosophical appendage. That’s not for you to say

You did. “My question is simple can michelson-morley type experiment be able to detect a particle with an energy of 1×10−64 J or a stream of such particles @ 1×10−64 J⋅Hz−1” A stream of particles, you used units of J-s. Flux implies a rate, i.e. an energy per unit time. You did not identify this as the action. If you had, you would have been asked what the action has to do with the problem. L = KE-PE = 1/2 mv^2 - mgh and the action is the time integral of the Lagrangian. KE increases in free fall, and PE gets smaller as h decreases. Even if L were constant, as with the example I gave above, the integral still gives you a factor of time.

That’s not the subject of this thread, and delving into the topic is preaching. The passage (since people should’t have to click on a link) being Do not be tempted to worship and serve what you see in the sky—the sun, the moon, and the stars. The LORD your God has given these to all other peoples for them to worship. But you are the people he rescued from Egypt, that blazing furnace. He brought you out to make you his own people, as you are today. And the NIV translation says 19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven. 20 But as for you, the Lord took you and brought you out of the iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%204&version=NIV So one might wonder if that part about the moon being for others is a bit of poetic license

But why didn’t you Google the passage in question? Or did you, and get no matches in the Bible? Could it be the only Google hit is this thread?

Yes, a point of reference. Agreed upon, for convenience. But not special. I can describe a duration with any number of units if time, but the duration is the same. Because action is not energy. In the example of a constant KE with PE=0, the action would be KE*t, which is linearly increasing with time. You even gave an example that clearly showed that the action would increase in magnitude over time! But you keep confidently posting as if you know what you’re talking about, and the evidence is that you don’t, at least not at a depth consistent with your confidence. Here, you clearly don’t understand what action is, but are posting like you do.

Not special. Units can’t be special. Physics has to work regardless of the units we use. It’s one reason we look to unitless constants (e.g. fine structure) if we think there’s insight to be had

I suspect that’s basically it, but it’s also not consistent with the WotW reference. So I want to know the thought process so the misconception(s) can be identified. The closest example might be the susceptibility of New World populations to diseases brought by Europeans, but they weren’t wiped put and the susceptibility wasn’t because they had modern medicine. Quite the opposite, since vaccines would have helped immensely.

Units are a pretty basic concept, and if you aren’t getting that right, I don’t know how to fix it. Participating in a physics thread assumes some basic knowledge. When you make claims that have no basis in physics, and just insist that you’re right, you’re going to get that kind of characterization. There isn’t even a bridge to mainstream physics to see where the misconception is and point it out, and you’re ignoring the corrections.

Yin and yang are not genetic/biological concepts.

That’s not an acceptable answer.

How does genetic diversity lead to our deaths? You need to walk us through the thought process here.

Partial credit, since it refers to people who rejected him, not people who didn’t know he existed, as you had said. "What do people do, who don't know you exist?" God replied "I made the Moon for people to Worship" So God did not make the moon for them to worship

What does either renormalization or Planck’s constant have to do with the Michelson-Morley experiment? The fact that the energy is small is the problem. The thermal energy in the apparatus would be vastly greater, and you’d never see fringes.

You can, of course, normalize a rate per any arbitrary unit of time. The amount of charge per unit of time being a current, the amount of work done per unit of time being power, the distance traveled per unit of time being speed, etc. Then when you multiply by an elapsed time, you get a meaningful result.

I assume* you have a calculation or reference that backs this up. *I actually think you don’t. Bullshitting is not tolerated well ‘round these parts.

How about not. If you want to discuss something or ask a question present it, but no tap-dancing, please. If you had said that, no, the energy is simply kinetic energy then my answer would still be no. The wavelength/size argument would still likely apply, but then you’d have a thermal distribution of the particles to worry about, which would wash out the fringes. Detection of the particles is another huge problem, but the specific reference to M-M puts the focus on interference. Is the OP sufficiently addressed? It most certainly does not.