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Back in the USSR, there were "academic institutions" whose purpose of existence was interpreting old texts and records in a way that proves that everything has been first invented by Russians. They did a good job. People used to say, jokingly, "Russia, the birthplace of elephants..."

That what I've learned from the CalTech course, The Solar System Science. That was about 7 years ago. Also, e.g., in Pluto - Wikipedia: And, e.g., in Kuiper Belt Objects: Facts about the Kuiper Belt & KBOs | Space:

There are other bodies in the Kuiper belt of size and density similar to Pluto. They are as 'planets' as is Pluto.

Maybe they count riverbanks, too (?)

Like any other religion I know, you translate and interpret ancient texts any way you like. BTW, by today's definition of planet in astronomy, there are 8 planets in the Solar system, not 9. And if you count Pluto as a planet, then there are more than 9.

Exactly. Also here: 9 Spheres of Heaven (Dante's Paradiso) - History Lists

Hadi Kharaghani's Homepage (uleth.ca): "At the twilight, a moon appeared in the sky; Then it landed on earth to look at me. Like a hawk stealing a bird at the time of prey; That moon stole me and rushed back into the sky. I looked at myself, I did not see me anymore; For in that moon, my body turned as fine as soul. The nine spheres disappeared in that moon; The ship of my existence drowned in that sea." Rumi's Divan Shams Tabrizi, 649:1-3,5

Where does it say so? I don't know of such a limit. As the answers above indicate, it took a very long time and many different ways. Here is one scheme:

What benefits would it have compared to sending robots?

I think you better apply for a patent now, before it's too late. However, keep it either to "lightyears" or to the "other parts of the solar system" as they are not the same.

I believe that all Rumi writings have been translated to English and perhaps the translations can be found on the Internet. Just give us a name. However, links to the Farsi sources would probably do too, as Google translate works with Persian.

I think that for some of them that understanding included the knowledge of necessity to move on. You are right and as was said above, time and place reference are important.

Not exactly. Both require a source of energy to account for the accelerated expansion, albeit for different reasons.

Yes, but with caveats. Are you familiar with the notion of 'cherry-picking'?

Some of them were nomads. So, travel was their way of life.

Yes.

Sperm usually need to swim, often against current... @Sensei ^ is right. (x-posted with @sethoflagos)

What time and place do you have in mind? It was not one continuous process.

If "finite universe" means a universe with a finite number of states, then you are right: there is a largest number that describes all of it and any number larger than that one is unnecessary in that universe.

Yep.

Finite on every step, but unbounded. E^3, E^4, E^5, etc.

I see. (It still has nothing to do with my comment to which the secret ballots thing was a reply, but it doesn't matter anymore -- ancient history.)

But then there are triplets of events, pairs of causal relations, quadruplets, combinations of events and relations, etc. which all have their various roles, and the count goes up and up, unbounded. Yes, I understand now much better what your OP is about. Not storing information or representing it, but about relation between the numbers and the real world.

If there are E events, then there are E2 pairs of events, which represent, e.g., causal relations between the events. E2 > E.

Yes.