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  1. Was using experience in an epistemically neutral sense. And was talking about AGI at the level of a machine that can learn, modify its own programming, exhibit functional plasticity, and (why am I needing to repeat this) replicate at least some of the causal powers of a brain. Please stop caricaturing this as spreadsheets or thermostats or whatever. While one may reasonably dismiss simple programmed devices as incapable of subjective states (aka "qualia"), there is as yet no definitive disproof that an advanced AGI could not have them. That's not being mystical, that's just keeping an open mind, since we don't yet know all the causal features of human cognition or if they could be implemented in some other substrate than protein-lipid pudding.
  2. Not really suggesting dryers or fryers are candidates for AGI. Not sure if I've ever expressed an affinity for panpsychism here. This was more along the lines of a hypothetical neural network that can causally replicate neural activity at a learning level more like a person. The suggestion is that placement of such an AGI in an android body with various sensory and motor abilities akin to a human would allow a level of interaction with the world that allowed it to develop concepts of the physical world. Form an internal model of the world that takes it towards greater sentience and understanding of sensory experience. (no reason this could not be done virtually, for that matter, and some AI folk have suggested that, too, as sort of a safer "sandbox") Are you not open to the possibility of AGI research at least looking into the possibility? As @Genady mentioned, having a body to interact with a world is a part of how human and other animal cognitive abilities develop. This was the post I was reacting to....
  3. Why are covens of sixteen witches so dangerous? Because they hex a decimal system.
  4. My experience too. I've renovated six houses, and have found nothing better than a heating coil. Hold it the right distance and the paint softens, moisture in the underlying wood vaporizes and causes rapid bubble formation, then scrape away. By far the best approach when there are 7-8 layers, as the heat penetrates all and bubbles form from the wood layer. You quickly learn a speed that doesn't scorch the wood. The exception might be crown mouldings, like a roman ogee profile, where it's really difficult to bubble and scrape without spending your remaining lifespan on it. That might be easier to take to a pro dipper/stripper, or just find someone who can match the profile and rout you some new stuff. And all of this is child's play compared to black mastic removal from old tile-over-wood floors. Another forum thread someday, perhaps.
  5. This is why some AI theorists say that AGI cannot mature until it is given a mobile physical body to interact with the world. It has to experience that the stovetop is painfully hot, not just interpret words stating so.
  6. TheVat replied to Externet's topic in The Lounge
    Indeed. Especially when they deceive. A common thing in US subdivisions, like in prairie area where name ends with -wood, and there are no woods.
  7. I've wondered if architect Robert Venturi was inspired by the line in that song about building a staircase going nowhere "just for show." His famous house (built for his mother) in Philadelphia, had such a staircase. Finishing touches on the house were done in 1964, the same year that Fiddler opened on Broadway.
  8. TheVat replied to Externet's topic in The Lounge
    93, on that list...seemed understandable why it's rare. In the county of Berkshire, in England, there is a place called Soggy Bottom. (it was also a fictitious locale in Louisiana, in the movie O Brother Where Art Thou?) https://mapcarta.com/N1246380035
  9. TheVat replied to Externet's topic in The Lounge
    deleted (just clicked the link, and I see the caption writer made the same joke, so I deleted) Some of the town store names could be potentially amusing. Dildo Appliance Dildo Electric Dildo Construction Let me restate here: every store with the town in its name is going to be amusing.
  10. Plus one from me, too, to Npts for seeing the next step.
  11. Ahhh.
  12. Ah, thanks. Now I see the actual problem.
  13. Finally figured out how to get hide button to work on tablet.
  14. Thanks. That had completely escaped my attention. 😜
  15. Something like a California bungalow or Chicago bungalow, then, but broader in its geographic designation? Say, for example, some house was called a Yankee Saltbox. As an architecture buff, I admit I'm stumped. That Woody Guthrie phrase just ran through my head, Little boxes made of ticky tacky...
  16. Video unavailable in US. I found (on our golden coast) this unblocked version. (sighs)(wipes steam from spectacles)
  17. I can think of American locations that are in architectural styles, like Prairie School or Cape Cod or California bungalow. (that last also called American Craftsman)
  18. There are pharmaceuticals that can mimic brain death. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22292975/ As MigL said, those who are truly dead, where the brain has begun to decompose (usually about six minutes after the heart has stopped, though can be longer where the body was hypothermic), are permanently dead. The connectome, the synaptic connections that make a brain function, breaks apart quickly, and that decisively ends life as a sentient organism. Some tissues survive longer, but that is not tissue that makes you you.
  19. Was it "Foursquare" by any chance? We used to live in one.
  20. Again, post hoc fallacy. And ridiculous. Consider more ordinary causal explanations - e.g. cats often throw up. Overeating, chewing on plants, hairballs, the small child next door slipping them cake frosting, or whatever. In this case, you happened to notice it and decided to take a coincidence as supportive of your crackpot theory while ignoring all the times the cat eats and doesn't throw up, or throws up when no one has hummed at his food.
  21. Heretic! It is the invention of chocolate which is the sacred apotheosis of snacks! I believe the correct forms are mentioned in Beetlejuice.

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