Everything posted by exchemist
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Dehydrated Water
OK. So someone had not thought it through, evidently. That happens a lot in some sci-fi, which is why people like me can find some of it rather irritating.
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Dehydrated Water
Yes the basic problem is that, while hydrogen is light, it is a gas that can't be liquefied under pressure (at normal temperatures), as it is above its critical temperature. So you have an intractable volume problem.
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Blonde gene
Are you asking about genes or about how an individual can lighten the colour of his or her hair? Your (1) and (2) suggest it is the latter. Re your (1), yes there are bleaching agents for hair that can lighten it. Re your (2), no, the opposite is the case. Sunlight will tend to lighten dark blonde hair. I have had two blonde girlfriends in the course of my life and the hair of both would become a few shades lighter in summertime, especially after a sunny holiday.
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Help on this Biology Question... Bit stuck!
Here's a clue: what happens when a plant wilts, due to lack of water?
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Metronidazole - shouldn't we be concerned that the question of carcinogenic potential hasn't been settled?
Checking who got cancer would not be enough. People get cancer anyway from a wide variety of causes, or just by bad luck. So you would need a sample population big enough to detect a statistically significantly higher rate of cancer than an equivalent population who had never been prescribed metronidazole and then correct that for any causes of cancer (such as recurrent helicobacter pylori infection) which might make the test population more susceptible to cancer than the controls. Not straight forward, it seems to me. But in any case from the links you provided there is no strong evidence of cancer from this drug as prescribed in human subjects. I quote from your second link: "A teratogenic effect of metronidazole could not be established (Koss et al. Reference Koss, Baras, Lane, Aubry, Marcus, Markowitz and Koumans2012), but it was found to be carcinogenic in rodents after extended durations of highly dosed treatment. In man, results were less clear and often conflicting (Dobiás et al. Reference Dobiás, Cerná, Rössner and Srám1994). With regard to short-term treatment with metronidazole, originally no correlation between metronidazole intake and cancer was found (Falagas et al. Reference Falagas, Walker, Jick, Ruthazer, Griffith and Snydman1998), but more recent studies report on a limited correlation (Friedman et al. Reference Friedman, Jiang, Udaltsova, Quesenberry, Cha and Habel2009). As a consequence, metronidazole is officially classified as ‘reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen’. There is a theoretical risk, no doubt, due to the results of the animal studies, but these involve vastly more intense and prolonged exposure to the drug than occurs in prescribing. It is fairly evident from the passage I have quoted that if there is an effect it cannot be marked. @CharonY describes the situation 2 posts above this one.
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Dehydrated Water
"Simply a can of hydrogen", eh? To get 18g of water would require 45l of hydrogen at atmospheric pressure and room temperature. So for a litre of drinking water you would need 2.4 m³ hydrogen at STP. You would compress it, of course, perhaps to 200bar, in which case the volume per litre of water would be 12l. But you would then have the weight of the pressure tank and the conversion catalyst, or burner + condenser, to react the hydrogen with atmospheric oxygen. I find it hard to imagine the weight of all this kit would be less than 1kg, which would be the weight of a litre of water. So I don't see this working out in practice.
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sunlight fades colors?
You are quite right about this being a chemical process- photochemical, more specifically. Absorption of light by dyes creates excited states with antibonding character and/or unpaired electrons. These are reactive and may form new bonds, either within the molecule or between molecules. If this happens, then more often than not it will interrupt the conjugated bonding systems responsible for absorption in the visible, hence causing a bleaching or fading effect. But there won't be any one reaction scheme for this. There is an article here about chromophores that explains the type of bonding responsible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromophore. Interrupting the chain of alternating single and double bonds will change the wavelength at which the molecules absorbs light, generally towards the UV.
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I see. All of my posts go into 'trash can'. That, itself, is interesting to me
You need to put more effort into saying something that makes sense. If you are capable of that.
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Metronidazole - shouldn't we be concerned that the question of carcinogenic potential hasn't been settled?
Most people don't seem to think I'm dense: but I suppose it's all relative. With you I struggle because I don't understand why you seem so anxious about this issue. The links you provided seem to me to show only a very tentative, and possibly non-existent, association with cancer in humans under the conditions of use for this drug in practice, viz. short regimes of treatment lasting only a few days. Plenty of drugs have been associated with cancer. Here's a report of a meta-analysis of some of them: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24310915/ I would agree it might be nice, if the time and resources were available, to conduct some long term follow-up, but it would need to be over decades, and require a very large sample (thousands) of people who like me were once prescribed this drug for a few days. But this would not be easy and it would have to be prioritised relative to other research projects. What I miss from you, perhaps because I'm so dense, is what makes you think the risk with metronidazole sticks out as a matter of urgent concern, compared to all the other drugs that have also been associated with cancer.
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I would like to have a debate with someone that claims math is 'real'
Is this a problem of terminology, perhaps? Mathematics is abstract, but I’m not sure it helps to question whether abstract concepts are “real” or not. Many, possibly most, of the concepts we use in thinking and communicating are abstract in some sense.
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Could chemicals expire?
Most household chemical products are not a single substance but a preparation involving a mixture of different substances. On prolonged storage some of these may slowly interact with one another, with the air, or with the packaging (corrosion of metal, "panelling" of plastic, softening of cardboard etc). Even if this is not expected to happen, it may be hard for the manufacturer to be 100% sure without conducting very long term storage testing, which would be impractical to do before every product launch . This is why, for instance, when I worked in the lubricants industry, we generally had a nominal 5 yr shelf life for lubricating oils. Having said this, I've checked my shampoo and soap and there is no shelf life limit or expiry date stated. There is of course a batch number, but that is something different: a quality control measure so that, in the event of a problem being discovered, the batch concerned can be identified and possibly recalled.
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Metronidazole - shouldn't we be concerned that the question of carcinogenic potential hasn't been settled?
My father had a bone scan using this, to check whether his (very slow-moving) prostate cancer was progressing. All rather absurd, as he was 90 at the time and showing no symptoms. I had to take him to the hospital and wait while they dosed him, left it to migrate into the bones and then tested him. But while I was waiting I was very intrigued to find Tc99m was used. I had not even realised excited states of radioisotopes were a thing - though of course it makes sense.
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If different elementary particles are at highly different relative velocities, how can it be said that an atom or larger mass is in its own frame?
OK. I'm afraid the pop-sci version is all we got as chemists at university (e.g. in my copy of Cotton and Wliklnson's Inorganic Chemistry), since while we were familiar with the Schrödinger equation, the Klein-Gordon one would have been out of scope. I know just about enough to realise it's rather handwavy and unsatisfactory, but that's it.
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If different elementary particles are at highly different relative velocities, how can it be said that an atom or larger mass is in its own frame?
Is that on the basis of still using Schrödinger's equation, in which case I suppose you must mean some correction to the Hamiltonian (?) , or would it be on the basis of the Klein-Gordon equation, as @Mordred suggests.
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If different elementary particles are at highly different relative velocities, how can it be said that an atom or larger mass is in its own frame?
There are real physicists on the forum who are better qualified than I on this but I think so, yes. As I say, the Schrödinger equation almost always works for electrons in the atom and that does not consider relativistic effects, which would not be so if the electron were treated as moving at a significant fraction of c. To treat a case like gold in terms of the Schrödinger equation, my understanding is one has to resort to "relativistic mass" to account for the observed absorption in the blue part of the spectrum that makes gold appear yellow, i.e. the electrons behave as if they are heavier due to effectively travelling at relativistic - though undefined - "speeds". But this explanation is not very rigorous (modern physics does not use the concept of relativistic mass any more). I'm sure the real physicists would do the whole thing over using other mathematics. As for motion of quarks within the nucleus, that is out of my league.
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If different elementary particles are at highly different relative velocities, how can it be said that an atom or larger mass is in its own frame?
You can in principle choose anything, of any size, and consider it either from the point of view of its own frame of reference or that of one of its components (if it is a composite entity) , depending on what you are trying to do. In the case of an atom, one would normally take the frame of reference of the nucleus as the reference frame of the atom, as that is quite pointlike for most purposes and happens to be where the centre of mass is - and the centre of any electric field, in the case of an ion. The electron is problematic, as it has neither defined position nor a defined path of motion.
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If different elementary particles are at highly different relative velocities, how can it be said that an atom or larger mass is in its own frame?
In an atom, the nucleus does not move much relative to the reference frame of the molecule it is part of, and the electrons' wave-particle behaviour is modelled successfully in most cases by Schrödinger's equation which is non-relativistic. (There are exceptions with the electrons in some heavy elements with very high nuclear charge, for which relativistic treatment is needed. Famously, the colour of gold is accounted for by this.) So actually relativity does not come into biochemistry that much (unless you are a purist who demands that particle "spin" be treated ab initio rather than as a given feature.) Where do you get 0.7c from, for the electron? In an atom one can't really speak of the electron's velocity (Heisenberg etc), so that sounds a bit dodgy to me.
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Metronidazole - shouldn't we be concerned that the question of carcinogenic potential hasn't been settled?
Good, so there's no burning issue, then and doctors can go on prescribing it for serious infections where there is no good alternative. I'm glad that's settled.
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Metronidazole - shouldn't we be concerned that the question of carcinogenic potential hasn't been settled?
It increases it by 2/10ths of F-all, to judge by the studies you cite.
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Metronidazole - shouldn't we be concerned that the question of carcinogenic potential hasn't been settled?
That’s not what I claimed. If it had been, it would have made no sense for me to go on and discuss the balance of risk.
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Metronidazole - shouldn't we be concerned that the question of carcinogenic potential hasn't been settled?
What claim would that be?
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The Birth Mechanism of the Universe from Nothing and New Inflation Mechanism!
OK so you start with a "being" (I assume this is a language issue and you mean just an entity of some kind) that has energy as one of its properties. But that means you don't start "from nothing", then.
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The Birth Mechanism of the Universe from Nothing and New Inflation Mechanism!
Well you would be wrong, then. Energy is just a property of a system denoting, as @Mordred says, the ability to do work. You won't find anyone with competent physical science training who claims energy can exist on its own. That sort of thinking is Star Trek, not science. There are many quantities in science like this: momentum, temperature, entropy, electric charge..... Energy is just one of those. In fact, your (1) illustrates the problem immediately. You can't talk about "change" without saying what is changing. And then you give a formula including mass. Mass of what? None of this makes sense until you specify some physical system to which it can be applied.
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Mass of a photon particle...
It's not mass but momentum, p. For a photon, E=pc. The change of momentum when a photon is reflected at normal incidence will be 2p. A boat sail uses Bernoulli's principle, i.e. that of an aerofoil, so that is very different.
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Metronidazole - shouldn't we be concerned that the question of carcinogenic potential hasn't been settled?
A review on metronidazole: an old warhorse in antimicrobial chemotherapy (2019) No, it's not insane and yes, you are missing something. Nobody takes metronidazole for more than about 2 weeks in a course of treatment. It tends to be used to treat serious protozoan or bacterial infections that would otherwise be very debilitating or ultimately lethal, and then stopped. Nobody takes this stuff prophylactically. I've used it twice, in both cases to treat giardiasis I picked up on travels in the Far East. One was a 3 day course and the other 7 days. There is no drug on Earth that has no risks attached to it. The evidence for metronidazole being carcinogenic in practice is very weak, whereas its benefits are great. Taking it out of the medical arsenal would certainly result in more deaths, and would thus be counterproductive.