fredreload

Hmm, what really did overpowered China, from the Asian point of view. Is the industrial revolution. Thereby making everything systematic. When China and Europe went on war, Europe got warship of steel is what I heard. I found this thread interesting, maybe it can be moved to speculation? It's up to OP

This one is attributed to League of Legends, Google, and Shokugeki no Soma and free for use

So I got this name from Wikipedia. Basically I got a few linear equations of n equations n unknowns so that it is always solvable. For example. val=[3,1,2,3,4,5,3,1,8,7,9,5,0,2,5,3] I got by splitting in half x=[3,1,2,4,6,5,3,1], y=[8,7,9,5,0,2,5,3],z=[?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?],w[?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?] So for each x and y value I plug it into the equation to get z and w 2x+y=14 2x-y=-2 x=3, y=8 z=14,w=-2 Now if I put this in Matrix form it would be |2 1|14| |2 -1|-2| Which I can reduce this matrix with the row reduction formula to solve for x and y using z=14 and w=-2 with the constants |1 0|3| |0 1|8| My point is you can control the constants however you see fit, meaning you can change the equation to 3x+y=17 3x-y=1 You would still get x=3 and y=8 except now z=17 and w=1 so the matrix become. |3 1|17| |3 -1| 1| The equation can also be in polynomials, derivatives, anti-derivatives, as long as I can back solve x and y from w and z. And linear equation is the easiest solvable one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But let me show you a mistake I made when I tried to reduce the formula. For instance, I set x-y=-5 y-x=5 These two equations looks opposite of each other, and by doing this I've successfully reduced the output z and w where they are just the opposite of each other z=-w, but this equation doesn't work because they are actually the same equation, so it's 1 equation 2 unknowns and you cannot solve for x and y with this x-y=5 y-x=5, (-1)(x-y)=5, x-y=-5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So I want a way to reduce the z and w outputs maybe so that they can reference to each other, but still able to solve for x and y. I can also split val into 3 parts or 4 parts and introduce another variable into the equation for instance val=[3,1,2,3,4,5,3,1,8,7,9,5,0,2,5,3] v=[3,1,2,3],w=[4,5,3,1],x=[8,7,9,5],y=[0,2,5,3] and 4 results [?,?,?,?],[?,?,?,?],[?,?,?,?],[?,?,?,?] So now you have 4 equations 4 unknowns v+w+x+y=15 v+w+x-y=15 v+w-x+y=-1 v-w+x+y=7 | 1 1 1 1|15| | 1 1 1 -1|15| | 1 1 -1 1|-1| | 1 -1 1 1| 7| And at this point if you still knows what I'm talking about, tell me how to set up the equations constants, so I can reduce the results = =

Hmm this equation kind of grows though, but I get your point, I'm thinking of a single variable which doesn't seem possible

Cool, I want an equation that would apply for any sequence, how about 71,73,70,56?

I want an equation generator for a set number of sequences, it's not an infinite sequence. For instance 71,73,70,56, I want an equation that would always give me a correct number nth number within this series or even for a series like this 1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1. It could be random sequences, but eventually I want to reduce this sequence to an equation so I can always find the nth number within this series, any number after this nth sequence doesn't matter. How can I do this?

TAR, Thanks for the reply, well, whichever works Regards, Fredreload

I know DNA make protein, but what does this protein do? I heard it turns into white blood cell, does it also turn into enzyme?

Well, since you're at this thread I'd assume you are interested in immorality? You think DNA is the next available option? What can Mr. Fredreload do for you ?

TAR, That involves the sense of self and why isn't everyone's mind connected. Assuming the arm is detached, if I run ions through it, who do you think the arm would belong to? I know when it is connected to me, the ions flow through it at the exact moment the ion leaves my shoulder. So I would speculate that the trick is timing and delay. Though that does not explain why the current running through two separate wires does not share the same voltage because the current is running at the speed of light. Haven't found an answer to that one. Regards Fredreload Well right the original body would be destroyed, but the copy shouldn't. Let's say I recreate an arm in a 3D space with graphics and time the ions flow exactly as how my arm would receive it using a scanner. Do you think I can now feel the arm that is in the 3D space apart from the arm that I have with me? I think it is possible, well this is speculation

Hmm, I was thinking that inorganic structure's bond's might be too hard to break, I'm thinking carbon atoms, but cool I'll take a look at seashells

TAR, Well my idea is that you slowly transfer the synapses in a neuron by neuron basis, it can be quite cumbersome. The picture is not you because it is not 3D, what makes it you is the 3D brain with flowing ions running and creating voltages behind the picture. It is kind of hard to swap the voltage off a neuron I must agree, picture the famous scene from Indiana Jone's where he swaps the statue with a bag of sand and triggers the boulder, it's kind of like that. To create a voltage you might have to simulate an electromagnetic field for every single ions and their interactions, which is a lot more computing power than what a single super computer exists today can handle. I think the memory structure is stored inside the brain in terms of synapses. So by recreating the entire brain in a 3D realm with graphics it would contain all your memory and experiences. You can even create your own memory with custom synapses, but that's speculation Regards, Fredreload

TAR, Well like I've mentioned I'm comparing consciousness to a voltage, how you connect lost limb is because there is voltage running through it that generates different senses. Now the brain cannot technically be split apart and reconnected, but what flows in the brain is ions and as long as there is voltage, you are conscious. Now technically simulating a voltage in the computer graphics realm would be kind of hard, since we haven't even defined what voltage is in a Physical sense, all we know is V=IR. So my idea is to recreate this voltage in the 3D realm with graphics, it's all math. Then you run this voltage along with the voltage of your brain in parallel, you might have two consciousness generated, or put these two voltages in series, or fit this time frame within 150m/s since that is the nerve impulse speed of the ions, let's say you run at 150m/s and right as it pass through the neuron you run it with light speed and circle back into another neuron, it's all voltage and current here, so speed might matter. It's all speculation from here but, I did put some thoughts into it Regards, Fredreload

TAR, You 3D scan a brain with all the synapses and neurons into the 3D realm in terms of graphics, it would contain all your memory and senses. Keep in mind this 3D model is empty so you can transfer your conscious into it

Well, eventually you can leave the computer realm again back into the 3D world, same way you get in, same way you get out, but this time you need a vessel with a correct memory. That would take a while for man kind to develop. If both of you guys are in the 3D realm technically you can interact with each other, it's all physics and synapses, touch feel and other senses, you control them

My perspective about transferring consciousness is like reconnecting a lost limb, when a limb is cut off you can no longer sense it, but when it's reconnected you can feel the limb again. Transferring consciousness wouldn't be an easy task consider your limb can't think, but similar mechanism can take place. I believe artificial intelligence could be developed within a few years. Think of an organism with a smallest set of neurons around 7500 and some more synapses. It could be easily simulated in a computer environment, the rest is to figure out if that organism actually has consciousness. I'm more into creating a fish that would swim inside a computer, but then I am not sure if creating consciousness would be ethical, I got a debate on creating life in this digital way in the ethical section. So I believe mind transferring could be achieved earlier than DNA anti-aging, but then digital immortality remains a back up plan. If you exist in the digital realm you can have everything granted for you, think of a man made heaven, but then someone still have to watch over you, since you would be inside of a metal box. But then you can switch your perspective to the real world by having some machine arm, video camera, right but before I get there, check out the anime Expelled From Paradise, it sort of gives an idea of what living in a digital realm would be like, I'd also like to explore more videos and films of this genre, they would be quite interesting. P.S. consciousness is like a light bulb, it lights up because there is voltage, you feel your arm again because the ion flows through your arm and creates voltage again. Same goes for the brain, is routing a voltage hard? I've never done it before, human synapses travel at 150m/s, not the electron running at the speed of light. It would be interesting to see and that I hope it can be transferred

I'm not sure if a thread like this existed, but basically DNA creates human body. We're not necessarily creating something conscious, but how about DNA with inorganic materials capable of creating a plane or a car?

Right, so I call for an in vitro study of DNA using laser scanner all the way from DNA to assembling protein, nothing can go wrong there with such detail observations Lockheed Martin is working on that, but not sure how many years it would take to come out P.S. Well there are also many ethical concerns, I'm going to sleep first, I'll check the thread tomorrow, good night guys

Right well that is what I'm afraid of. With the recent advancement in CRISPR/CAS9 method there has been more attentions for DNA manipulation, thing is gene sequencing is still a problem along with super computers. What I am looking for is a in vitro study of DNA using laser scanning technique, that way we'd understand everything. As for the scale of laser scanner, well it requires dye for find tuning etc. Personally I think laser scanning is the key to both DNA immortality and digital immortality. To get a good scan of DNA or a good scan of individual neurons

It's good to hear from many perspectives, let's assume it is possible to transfer consciousness and we can live as children. To go one step further where science can achieve

Well, it is the ability to choose when you wish to continue on with the next life. And repair all damages, to feel young again

Yes believe me I've checked on Google and the answer is 25 years estimated. Well you guys have probably seen my posts on DNA immortality and digital immortality. We are living at an age in which it seems that both are likely to achieve. I've always got the feeling that someone already cracked the code but is simply hiding the technology from us, how accurate is that I can't really say. I'm keeping digital immortality as a back up plan because it involved mind transferring. I really do hope that before I die I would get my mind transferred and say live for another hundred of years digitally. This really is counting on someone or some organization to have a fully built super computer capable of doing mind transferring. While this remain as a back up plan. I would also like to see how DNA immortality works out as someone transferring my conscious at the last moment is sort of like a bet. Well by the time I turn 80 and if I live until that age and sees that DNA immortality hasn't been developed, I'd probably count on digital immortality instead. So what do you guys think is more likely to achieve and how many years do you think it would take for each?

Right well, statistically speaking it shouldn't be that bad, if you're interested in digital immortality feel free to check out my other thread

Consider his health conditions, well, that's another story. Point is if I can stay 18 forever, I'd be partying right now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_of_linear_equations Might try Gauss-Jordan Elimination