J.C.MacSwell

Another effect may be more people utilizing online courses going forward. Much of many universities brick and mortar, and support structure for it, could become redundant.

Sounds like an individual who just might come up with something that could benefit society. Never underestimate these people. Also don't hire them to positions of authority...

You spelled "enough of" wrong...(I kid, I kid)

I was also thinking you would be more critical of the US Governments as they are, at least in theory, more responsible to you.

Same reason you would hold Canadian Government/s to higher scrutiny than, say India?

I will...

I don't think China, especially, or the WHO have acted well...but there certainly was enough information out there that was, tragically, ignored or overlooked.

He's making Trump look good by comparison. They're also heading into their flu season, and of course lot's of homeless, so they could be particularly vulnerable.

Don't listen to Trump. She still goes by that...

From the administration: Seriously people. Stop taking life jackets! There is no proven benefit to the passengers, who have not been trained to put them on, and if they keep taking them there won't be enough for the captain and crew. Here's how to easily make your own personal flotation device....while not an approved life jacket it may keep you afloat for an unknown period of time...

Obviously that's consistent with your original statement. But is that what you'd prefer to see happen? I don't question the "out of office" part

Sorry Zap. There's a lot of pretty smart people on this forum that have proven time and again that they can think logically and base it on solid assumptions. Even in the political threads. And then they go off the rails. I'm not talking about the odd bit of hyperbole. I know it's not just here on this Forum, or even just in the States. Maybe you can explain it? Having said that...I realize we all suck when emotions get involved...at least to some extent. Some just recognize it more than others.

My limited and non technical take on it: I do think more exposure over shorter time periods allow the virus to take root. I just don't (of course) know how much over how long, and I think this would vary with individuals and circumstance. An earlier low dose exposure may actually be helpful (but don't try it at home...or anywhere else!) It's not really just an accumulation from exposure, as it's replicating in the body while the immune system is fighting it off, and some parts of the body are more vulnerable than others. Every body is a different battlefield, but I think it can be quantified to some degree at some point, as more becomes known about the virus and it's effects.

Bifurcate? Binary "either/or" state in my mind? Give your head a shake. I literally mentioned 5 different "groups", from the left/right spectrum, in the single post from which you quoted. 4 within the 2 sentences you quoted, giving some indication how they differ...

We can. Where do we start? Or just number of copies inhaled over a given time?

I would on that part. The right, generally, rejects identity politics. (the "alt right" would be an exception...and not in a good way) Note the "quotation marks" in each case though. I consider liberals to be reasonably left, and conservatives to be reasonably right. Neither being part of "the left" or "the right".

Yes. It can be suspended in the air and you can inhale it. I'm sure it can carry further than 13 feet. The question is at what level, and what level does it take to "catch" it. My take right now is that if you follow the intent of the guidelines, you have done your part to flatten the curve. This won't guarantee you won't get it though, so if you are at risk health or age wise you should do more...up to complete isolation if you feel it's necessary.

I would call Bill Maher "left leaning" (as opposed to "the left" as I described it) “So when someone says, ‘What if people hear Chinese Virus and blame China?’ the answer is, ‘We should blame China.’ Not Chinese-Americans, but we can’t stop telling the truth because racists get the wrong idea. There’s always going to be idiots out there who want to indulge their prejudices, but this is an emergency! Don’t we have bigger tainted fish to fry?” He continued, “Sorry Americans, we’re going to have to ask you to keep two ideas in your head at the same time: This has nothing to do with Asian-Americans and it has everything to do with China... https://sportscool.com/2020/04/11/bill-maher-blasts-pc-uproar-over-chinese-virus-label-we-should-blame-china/ I would agree with him, with the caveat that I think Trump should make more effort to make it clear that Chinese-Americans, especially, and Chinese as a people should not be blamed. (He does on occasion do that type of thing, but IMO not often enough...and when he does "the left media" tends not to report it) Because, as Maher says "there's always going to be idiots out there".

Left leaning? Maybe some....but I'm referring to "the left"...as in: irrational identity politics anti Trump no matter what left...the ones that get all the press, and unfortunately drown the others out ...the ones that sound like they secretly hope hydroxychloroquine won't work...

Sure. And "the left" can choose their strategy as to how to get rid of Trump. And I guess they can continue to claim their "ends justifying their means strategy" should have worked...if just everyone wasn't so damned racist....

Trump should be called out for his ineptitude, inability, unwillingness, or simply negligence in properly addressing the hate crimes. Instead he gets blamed and called racist for calling the virus, that most certainly came from China, the Chinese virus... and his detractors are left wondering why they continue to fail in making the case against him...

Outside of any effect due to the message being off the mark, how do you tie his exuberance for hydroxychloroquine to specific damage? If a M.D. prescribes it and it doesn't work, is that on Trump? If there is a shortage for better uses, is that potentially damage caused by Trump? He's essentially advocating it as a potential tool for physicians toolbags. That on it's own is not a bad thing. Here are a couple of Canadian efforts studying it's potential for use against Covid 19. https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/hydroxychloroquine-trial-underway-at-university-of-alberta-1.4891216 https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mcgill-university-researchers-looking-for-patients-to-test-hydroxychloroquine-as-treatment-for-covid-19-1.4886510 Do you think they're doing this because it's been advocated by Trump, LOL? If it turns out to be useless for Covid 19 is Trump responsible for that effort not being focused elsewhere? Or is this just for any Americans duped into wasting significant resources on this? (or ingesting fish tank cleaner...) The trend should be toward taking your President with a bucket of salt, and not exaggerating the importance of his medical advice. Or is all that just unfathomable to those that dislike him?

This is my take as well. Obviously he believes it has a better than not chance it works, both the hydrochloroquine (he'll still claim victory if something else works) and his getting the credit if it does. Obviously as well he could have gone the "statesman" route and gained in that manner...but it's just not in him. Compare him if you will to Mike Pence, who has done much better in this regard, all while praising "the President" with a straight face.

This link contains, I think, a pretty good statement of a reasonable judgement on hydroxychloroquine's potential at this point in the game: "If it truly has a dramatic effect on the clinical course of Covid-19 we would already have evidence for that. We don't, which tells us that hydroxychloroquine, if it even works at all, will likely be shown to have modest effects at best," Dr Joyeeta Basu, a senior consultant physician, told the BBC. Hopefully it, or something better, will prove to be an effective part of our health systems' toolbag. They should be in a blind trust (good luck with that in Trump's case), but a requirement for every President to sell all assets, and all those of his family? They're already struggling to come up with anyone clearly better than Trump...

I think they probably did mention the sensible thing to do.. Unfortunately they might have added that's how Obama would handle it...