science4ever Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) I am extremely bad at logic but active atheists have told me that only philosophy can say anything about the existence of a god and what one can know about such a god. So Ontology what exists and Epistemology what we can know. 1. My fuzzy logic then tells me that there is no way to know if God exists or not? 2. There is logically know way to get any evidence for an existing god or evidence for a non existing god either. the way they have defined god makes God beyond such evidence? 3. So if there exist a god then neither believers nor atheists can know that it exists at all. I wild guess that some theologians have tried to solve this by saying that the Concept God point to a theoretically possible god that may exist so if there is one then the word God point to that real God even if there is no evidence for such a god. I see that as a kind of cheating. Would be more honest if they admited that they are desperate to at all cost postulate the existence of a possible god. Now if my confused brain get's it right then the whole fight between theists and atheists seems rather futile. There is no way to know if a god exists or not. so to ask if somebody believe that god exist seems to be about personal preferences on supporting an old tradition more than about any real God. I mean the believers have no way to know if a god exists or not. So what is the point asking them? Maybe it is more about sorting people into categories. 1. You are a believer in superstitions about gods so I will be skeptical to anything you say. 2. You lack the believe in gods so now we only have thrillions of other superstitious belief to sort out It is pointless is it not? What is not pointless is the political power of religious traditions. The political power of religion is strong enough to make several countries to have restrictions on sexual education and easy to get contraceptices so a lot of woman get more children than they want. Abortion is forbidden or heavily restricted. Seen from politics God is very much in power but the logical atheists tells me that such realities are totally irrelevant to the question on God. To them politically powerful gods are irrelevant. They are only imagined and the logical atheist only care about an "existing" god. Is that not extremely odd? What is the logical answer that we can have any knowledge for an existing god. the only evidence for a god that de facto have impact on our lives are the imagined gods. Edited September 3, 2013 by science4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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