aman Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 The edge of the universe seems to be universally less dense than the 3 degree background radiation from the expanding big bang. Otherwise it wouldn't be uniform in all directions as the edge travels into the void. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
§lîñk€¥™ Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone Everything has meaning. I see no evidence to support that assertion, or any logical argument that would lead to that conclusion. Maybe I am just dense. kind regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
§lîñk€¥™ Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Originally posted by the GardenGnome Just being curious. Nothing bad. Nothing wrong with being curious. In fact, if you were not curious I would find that more "wrong". Sorry if my reply seemed to be harsh or offensive. It was not intended that way. kind regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSX Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Originally posted by Piccolo Ever see the never ending story? Actually no. How does it go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the GardenGnome Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Originally posted by NSX Actually no. How does it go? The kid reads a book and enters some fantasy land, there are a bunch of creepy creatures. And the story never ends. Correct me if I'm wrong. It's been awhile since I've seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 To get back to the original thread, it's called "nullity". Or if you prefer a catchier name, unspace. A bit like subspace - but less roomy®. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 One can assume that it exists and can be occupied by matter, so what would it be like if we flew into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone what would it be like if we flew into it? Extremely dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Extremely fascinating; as this was the kind of space that gave rise to the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PogoC7 Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/010902a.html --- How some NASA people anwser that question. I believe our atoms would be ripped apart and expand as a forward extention of our universe.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone One can assume that it exists and can be occupied by matter, so what would it be like if we flew into it? flew into what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone Extremely fascinating; as this was the kind of space that gave rise to the universe. If you flew into it a few billion years ago, then it might be interesting. I interpreted your question as "what if we launched a ship tomorrow and flew out of the universe". If it were me I'd take some magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Well I'm assuming this will occur at a time where travelling 14 billion light years is practical. You'd fly into something, since the space-time of the universe continually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 It would still be dull. If you can get to the edge of the universe and beyond, then by default you are travelling faster than anything in the universe. So nothing else would have got 'out there' yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 But it's the same nothing that existed before the universe did; therefore everything in it can't be absolutely null; or the universe couldn't have arisen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Everything 'in' it when the universe began is still contained in the universe. Mind you, it does depend on how you look at 'in' I suppose. Moral of the story: don't bother travelling, it's all on your doorstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 The universe arose at specific points; how could this happen if there were no points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 what specific points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone The universe arose at specific points; how could this happen if there were no points? You mean something that can be defined in spatial terms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 In order for a point into more than 1 point, there must exist multiple points; so why didn't the universe start at some points and not others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 *** mangled post alert *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 is the concept of a point really relevant? it seems to imply absolute space to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 All points of origin during the big bang had distance between them; but the new space-time wasn't part of this distance, so what was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 I imagine the big bang as one point, expanding in all directions from that point and the start of our coordinate space/time. Now we are somewhere away from that point and 14 billion light years from the outer border. Maybe? Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 The current big bang theory states that there were multiple points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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