abbas3 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 today energy is the most important subject. i have a invention to change the Power from a Ferrite magnet to electricity. a Ferrite magnet gives us a indefinite absorbing and repellent energy. but You might ask yourself what does power have to do with energy? a simple example is when you put two similar poles of a Ferrite magnet together they exorcise each other this causes a suden dynamic energy! but this dynamic energy finished when the two magnets are yonder. there is a way in which that magnets keep their repel and still stay together! this method can be used in cars and to produce electricity and it stops global warming, polution poverty and drought At first glance, my designs might look to be against the first and the second laws of physics. But that is not true! It is impossible to create energy! it can only change Power to Energy. I want to say that mechanical power can be changed to energy. There are generators in America that use the earth’s gravity to produce very little electricity. But this is not commercial. But my design is very cheap and powerful. Now you see some off my designs i15.http://tinypic.com/46zxydt.jpg As you can see there is a round magnet with a horseshoe magnet in the middle of it and due to the power of the round magnet it makes it to turn i15.http://tinypic.com/2ikp4t4.jpg In this design a partition magnet is used i9.http://tinypic.com/4hwnzw5.jpg In this design you see a Bird’s-eye view of a round magnet which has different poles in side and out side and the horseshoe magnet on the out side turns due to its power i9.http://tinypic.com/49axdns.jpg i15.http://tinypic.com/47jvzlu.jpg i15.http://tinypic.com/42nbjuo.jpg i10.http://tinypic.com/2v3ooyq.jpg i10.http://tinypic.com/2lkrwxg.jpg i15.http://tinypic.com/2ylsec9.jpg i7.http://tinypic.com/400rrb7.jpg i13.http://tinypic.com/30adncx.jpg i16.http://tinypic.com/2vn3t5s.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the tree Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Seriously, do you imagine that you're the only person that has thought about perpetual motion machines based on magnets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 if only you knew how to put http:// infront of links so they'd work. your idea is tosh anyway. the best it can possibly do is break even. that means it does no useful work. oh, and just because it keeps spinning in the most basic physics simulation where friction isn't accounted for doesn't mean it will in real life. try it. go to a workshop and build it. and nobody will send you money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 today energy is the most important subject.i have a invention to change the Power from a Ferrite magnet to electricity. Just like a normal turbine you might say. a Ferrite magnet gives us a indefinite absorbing and repellent energy. Why do you think it's indefinite? but You might ask yourself what does power have to do with energy? Power is Work / time, and we all know work is closely related to energy. a simple example is when you put two similar poles of a Ferrite magnet together they exorcise each other this causes a suden dynamic energy! but this dynamic energy finished when the two magnets are yonder. The force is still there it's just very very weak/shielded. there is a way in which that magnets keep their repel and still stay together! this method can be used in cars and to produce electricity and it stops global warming, polution poverty and drought Oh righty. At first glance, my designs might look to be against the first and the second laws of physics. Thermodynamics not physics. But that is not true! It is impossible to create energy! it can only change Power to Energy. I want to say that mechanical power can be changed to energy. Mechanical 'power' is energy. There are generators in America that use the earth’s gravity to produce very little electricity. But this is not commercial. It also doesn't really work, because you need to get the energy to oppose gravity to get it back. But my design is very cheap and powerful.Now you see some off my designs As you can see there is a round magnet with a horseshoe magnet in the middle of it and due to the power of the round magnet it makes it to turn In this design a partition magnet is used In this design you see a Bird’s-eye view of a round magnet which has different poles in side and out side and the horseshoe magnet on the out side turns due to its power This system might work to create a bit of energy, but it would be shockingly wasteful, not run for very long and you have to expend energy to make magnets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbas3 Posted June 5, 2007 Author Share Posted June 5, 2007 This system might work to create a bit of energy, but it would be shockingly wasteful, not run for very long and you have to expend energy to make magnets. dear friend , the super cundactor is very strong and can give us a lot of energy , it dont weaken after a long time and so U can with one super cundactor build a car that depart.... if u say a drawback in my plan ; i pay 50 $ 2 U!! its really! i pay to any body that find a drawback in my invention!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre4edgc Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 If something metal falls into your energy creator, you're screwed. Plainly put. Those magnets will stop immediately and go for it. So to make a car run off of this energy is almost impossible unless you could build stuff out of just plastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 dear friend , the super cundactor is very strong and can give us a lot of energy , it dont weaken after a long time and so U can with one super cundactor build a car that depart.... if u say a drawback in my plan ; i pay 50 $ 2 U!! its really! i pay to any body that find a drawback in my invention!!!!! Have you ever seen a super conductor work at room temperature? I sure haven't... Also what are you doing about air resistance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbas3 Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 Those magnets will stop immediately WHY? plz explain more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 you will not get any more energy out than you put in at the start. it just will not happen. it cannot happen. and can you please take the time to write in proper english, it makes your posts hard to read with all the glaring errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 you will not get any more energy out than you put in at the start. it just will not happen. it cannot happen. and can you please take the time to write in proper english, it makes your posts hard to read with all the glaring errors. You will get less out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbas3 Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 i come from iran(sory) plz explain more.... my plan dont need 2 energy 2 start.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 i think you will find that it does. have you tried building a prototype? also, if you had it spinning and assuming there was no friction, in other words an ideal situation, then the moment you tried to extract work from it through a generator then it would slow down and stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 i come from iran(sory) plz explain more.... my plan dont need 2 energy 2 start.... Magnets require energy to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbas3 Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 then the moment you tried to extract work from it through a generator then it would slow down and stop our power is more than M k and friction can not do any thing! (our power is always... so the power stultify the friction and the magnets always have motion!!!) Magnets require energy to be made. 4 example with 3000w we build a magnet but it worked always and it dont weaken after many years! so it give us more the 3000w and very very more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre4edgc Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 WHY?plz explain more... The magnets will stop rotating and all of them will be attracted to the metal, which will cause them to stop, rendering the entire invention useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbas3 Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 The magnets will stop rotating and all of them will be attracted to the metal metal? where is it? (i have not any metal in my plan there are only 2 magnets that excrete their!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 4 example with 3000w we build a magnetbut it worked always and it dont weaken after many years! so it give us more the 3000w and very very more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! umm no. if you use 3000 Joules then you will be able to extract 3000 J of energy before it has zero field again. normally this will take years and years as the magnet is not actually expending any energy and just providing a static force. if you extract energy from the field then it will deteriorate a whole lot faster. metal?where is it? (i have not any metal in my plan there are only 2 magnets that excrete their!) magnets are made of metal. and i don't even want to know what magnets excrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 our power is more than M k and friction can not do any thing!(our power is always... so the power stultify the friction and the magnets always have motion!!!) If this was true the following would not happen. I have 2 magnets, there is no shielding between them. Therefore their fields WILL interact with each other as they are infinite without shielding. I put these two magnets on a desk. They don't move. Because the friction is stronger than the force trying to move them. I move them slightly closer together, and they slowly move towards each other with an acceleration a1... I do the same experiment whilst in free fall with the magnets not on a surface the magnets now move together with acceleration a2. a1. < a2 Because the friction in the first case is resisting the motion, in the second case it is only air resistance and no friction. Your machine will no work. There are no ifs or buts, that is the simple fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbas3 Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Are U test my plans? (i have 11 plan!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 the laws of physics don't care if you have a million plans. it still won't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Are U test my plans?(i have 11 plan!) Have *you* tested your plans? Why are you so willing to believe it will work without such a crucial test? There was a guy from the US a while back who claimed he had a working engine that combined electromagnets with a gyroscopic effect to create a magnetic field so huge it could be used to produce more electricity than the system required to operate. He was very persuasive and even got a spot on The Tonight Show (with Carson, not Leno). He eventually put it in a car and drove it around a stadium to impress investors. Everyone who gave him money lost it all with no results. He would never let anyone test his original engine and all the plans he sold couldn't reproduce his original "results". If you want people to take you seriously you need to produce your device and it needs to work for anyone who cares to observe it. You will never gain any credibility unless you can show by empirical observation that such a device works and works every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybee Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 i often wonder if scientists are wearing blinkers,in the sense that if it isnt in the book then it cant be true,i have no real qualifications apart from the universety of life and some practical experience. this is not a personal attack on any one just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 generally, us scientists are very open minded(hell, just look at QM even some crazies won't accept that as possible) but some things have been tested to extremes and have always held true. so we can say with 99.99999999999999999999% certainty that conservation of energy is true and can never be broken. the chances he has done this are so slim that even the most optimistic person would say he's talking a load of BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One of the Few Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 This will sound rude, but I feel a considerable bit dumber because of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 This will sound rude, but I feel a considerable bit dumber because of this thread.Why dumber? Because you wasted your time reading it? Because you had the same ideas as the OP? Because some of the words were too long for you? (ha-ha). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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