So Im a bit uncertain about what angle of transverse means but I believe its this, lets say you swing a baseball bat, the barrel of the bat, the part of the bat that hits the ball is going to be going faster than the handle of the bat because it has to cover more distance in the same amount of time. Therefore with a longer bat the striking surface is going to be going faster than it will with a stronger bat and therefore it will send the ball further.

So when batters choke up on the bat, when they move their hands closer to the barrel of the bat, they might get more control but they're sacrificing speed and power because in doing so you are decreasing the angle of transverse and thus the striking surface will be moving slower, you're using a shorter bat so to speak.

Shorter bat means smaller moment of inertia (proportional to mr^2) thus a greater angular acceleration for a given torque.

The torque you exert on contact with the ball is reduced (r x F) since the r is reduced

https://www.justbats.com/blog/post/why-choke-up-on-a-bat/

On 7/6/2025 at 8:17 PM, swansont said:

Shorter bat means smaller moment of inertia (proportional to mr^2) thus a greater angular acceleration for a given torque.

The torque you exert on contact with the ball is reduced (r x F) since the r is reduced

https://www.justbats.com/blog/post/why-choke-up-on-a-bat/

Well swinging a baseball bat is just one example, Im talking about when any kind of stick is swung how the tip of the stick will be moving faster than the base because it has to cover more distance in the same amount of time, I believe that's called angle of transverse and Im just asking if I'm correct in that.

22 minutes ago, Photon Guy said:

Well swinging a baseball bat is just one example, Im talking about when any kind of stick is swung how the tip of the stick will be moving faster than the base because it has to cover more distance in the same amount of time, I believe that's called angle of transverse and Im just asking if I'm correct in that.

It doesn’t sound quite right to me. Do you perhaps mean “traverse”?

3 hours ago, Photon Guy said:

Well swinging a baseball bat is just one example, Im talking about when any kind of stick is swung how the tip of the stick will be moving faster than the base because it has to cover more distance in the same amount of time, I believe that's called angle of transverse and Im just asking if I'm correct in that.

Ok, but the tip isn’t covering a greater distance in the same time.

A transversal is a line crossing other lines, and there’s an interior and exterior angle, but I’m not sure how this all connects.

On 7/8/2025 at 1:42 PM, swansont said:

Ok, but the tip isn’t covering a greater distance in the same time.

A transversal is a line crossing other lines, and there’s an interior and exterior angle, but I’m not sure how this all connects.

The tip is covering a greater distance if you're swinging the stick in an arc. Another example is when you swing a golf club, the head of the club is going to be moving faster than the handle because if has to move a greater distance in the same amount of time.

1 hour ago, Photon Guy said:

The tip is covering a greater distance if you're swinging the stick in an arc. Another example is when you swing a golf club, the head of the club is going to be moving faster than the handle because if has to move a greater distance in the same amount of time.

Yes, but I’m talking about your other comparison — you went on to talk about the shorter bat and choking up: “longer bat the striking surface is going to be going faster than it will with a stronger bat” — and you can’t say that the shorter bat will rotate at a slower or the same speed, either angular speed or tip speed.

As far as the angle is concerned, a drawing would help significantly

8 hours ago, Photon Guy said:

The tip is covering a greater distance if you're swinging the stick in an arc. Another example is when you swing a golf club, the head of the club is going to be moving faster than the handle because if has to move a greater distance in the same amount of time.

On 7/8/2025 at 2:35 PM, Photon Guy said:

Well swinging a baseball bat is just one example, Im talking about when any kind of stick is swung how the tip of the stick will be moving faster than the base because it has to cover more distance in the same amount of time, I believe that's called angle of transverse and Im just asking if I'm correct in that.

No you are not correct in that you are confusing linear and angular measure.

The only place I have seen such a phrase is in electrical theory where the angle moved through by the needle on an old fashioned meter is called 'The deflection angle'.

The phrase 'deflection angle' is also used on mechanics, structural engineering and surveying to represent an angle something turns through.

It is generally better to use the word deflection for angular measure and rotation for when the object is spinning ie make multiple rotations or revolutions on an axis.

Yes it is correct that the tip or outer end of a deflection moves faster than a point near the centre of deflection (rotation).

Indeed if you deflect a laser beam fast enough and powerful enough to reach the Moon, the light will appear to move track across the Moon's surface at a speed greater than c.

Your original enquiry also touches upon the difference between (rotational) kinematics and (rotational) dynamics where kinematics simply refers to speed, distance and acceleration whist dynamics includes this but also includes work, energy, momentum power and related topics.
It is the same distinction as in linear or translational motion.

Speed alone does not mean that the impact will send the ball faster.
Speed is involved but there are other factors involved as well and these can get quite complicated as the bat is shaped, may have variable sectional mass along its length and impulsive forces are involved.

As to control etc there is a point towards the handle of the bat know as the centre of percussion.~This also has an influence on the matter.

17 hours ago, swansont said:

Yes, but I’m talking about your other comparison — you went on to talk about the shorter bat and choking up: “longer bat the striking surface is going to be going faster than it will with a stronger bat” — and you can’t say that the shorter bat will rotate at a slower or the same speed, either angular speed or tip speed.

As far as the angle is concerned, a drawing would help significantly

A video might be better. Here is a video of a man swinging a golf club in slow motion. As you can see the head of the club is moving faster than the handle because it has to cover more distance in the same amount of time.

Just now, Photon Guy said:

A video might be better. Here is a video of a man swinging a golf club in slow motion. As you can see the head of the club is moving faster than the handle because it has to cover more distance in the same amount of time.

Thank you for wasting my time.

38 minutes ago, Photon Guy said:

A video might be better. Here is a video of a man swinging a golf club in slow motion. As you can see the head of the club is moving faster than the handle because it has to cover more distance in the same amount of time.

You’re missing the point; this is not in question. It’s other things that you said.

9 hours ago, swansont said:

You’re missing the point; this is not in question. It’s other things that you said.

Well what I said about the baseball bat and about choking up was a bad example.

9 hours ago, studiot said:

Thank you for wasting my time.

Ypu wasted your own time.