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Are tangent points allowed in ruler and compass constructions?

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You could find the midpoint of A and B by adjusting your compass to any distance slightly lager than half AB. With this distance make an arc from A than B. The intersection of the two arcs is the midpoint. Call this midpoint point J.

With the AJ length of the compass from B draw an arc. From any point on this arc draw another arc with length AJ.

With compass size AB draw and arc that intersects the last arc you made. This is BC.

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6 hours ago, Trurl said:

You could find the midpoint of A and B by adjusting your compass to any distance slightly lager than half AB. With this distance make an arc from A than B. The intersection of the two arcs is the midpoint. Call this midpoint point J.

With the AJ length of the compass from B draw an arc. From any point on this arc draw another arc with length AJ.

With compass size AB draw and arc that intersects the last arc you made. This is BC.

No, it is not.

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12 hours ago, Trurl said:

You could find the midpoint of A and B by adjusting your compass to any distance slightly lager than half AB. With this distance make an arc from A than B. The intersection of the two arcs is the midpoint. Call this midpoint point J.

With the AJ length of the compass from B draw an arc. From any point on this arc draw another arc with length AJ.

With compass size AB draw and arc that intersects the last arc you made. This is BC.

This problem is not asking to find a midpoint of A and B. It asks to find a point C such that B is the midpoint of A and C.

Anyway, here is a drawing according to your steps. It does not seem to work.

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3 hours ago, Genady said:

This problem is not asking to find a midpoint of A and B. It asks to find a point C such that B is the midpoint of A and C.

2 arcs of length AJ, if J is the midpoint of AB, equal the length of AB.

You don’t have a straight edge so you have to draw an arc of length AB from point B to determine the line.

Ask @studiot , is this how you would make these geometric constructions?

I thought finding the midpoint of AC was pretty straightforward. But if you are doing this for the first time it is difficult.

You could just mark a line of AB from point B and it would give you the distance. However without a straight edge you need a second arc because you cannot just draw a straight line,

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2 hours ago, Trurl said:

if J is the midpoint of AB

But it is not.

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2 hours ago, Trurl said:

I thought finding the midpoint of AC was pretty straightforward

What part of the following statement don't you understand?

5 hours ago, Genady said:

This problem is not asking to find a midpoint

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2 hours ago, Trurl said:

without a straight edge you need a second arc

Yes, but your second arc is wrong.

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Did you read this statement:

20 hours ago, Genady said:

The question in the thread was NOT how to solve these problems. I've solved both of them.

I don't need help in solving these problems!

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22 hours ago, Genady said:

I don't need help in solving these problems

Well then you should post a screenshot of both problems and their answers.

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1 minute ago, Trurl said:

Well then you should post a screenshot of both problems and their answers.

No, I should not.

Nevertheless, I've posted my solution of the Problem A in the beginning of the thread, here:

 

  • 2 months later...

@Genady

I should just formulate the original problem, and all will become clear:

Given two points, A and B, construct a point C, using only a compass, such that B is a midpoint between A and C.

Studiot

Ah I see, thank you I will give it some thought.

OK so I have thought, (sorry my thought processes are so slow at the moment)

To do this without a ruler ie with only a pair of compasses you can follow the inscribing a regular hexagon inside a circle, but only mark the hexagon points, not the sides.

So

1 ) Centre B draw circle radius BA

2) Leaving compasses set to BA, step off 3 intersection marks round circle from A , and 3 intersection marks going the other way for a check.

3) Find point C on third intersection both ways round.

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